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AMD A8-6500 + AsRock FM2A85X temperatures reading (CPU, chipset)

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July 25, 2013 1:58:45 PM

Hey guys,
I recently build a new system:
AsRock FM2A85X Extreme 4-m
AMD A8-6500 65W tdp
2x4GB Kingston single channel (wrong mounting)
Corsair CX430M
Case Chieftec HM-02
Scythe Big Shuriken 2 rev.B with Noctua NF-F12 PWM
Others fans for air in-take/out-take

It's the first time I build a PC and I have some doubts/fears about the temperatures of the system.
I updated the BIOS at the latest version and installed HWMonitor CPUID and AsRock Extreme Tuning Utility for monitoring the temps.

AsRock Utility show me CPU and MB temps and the readings match the BIOS ones.
These readings are quite reassuring: CPU stays at about 40°C in idle and under load reaches 60°C, enabling BIOS feature that lets the fans to run at full speed, lowering temp down to 55°C and so on.

CPUID show me 4 values under MB section (in idle):
-SYSTIN 37° C
-CPUTIN 40° C
-AUXTIN 63° C
-TMPIN3 40° C

The first two values match MB and CPU temps provided by BIOS/AsRock Utility,
AUXTIN and TMPIN3 are constant and don't change even under load (maybe dummy values?).

The strange is that under CPU section CPUID show me Package temperature, wich is nearly 60° C in idle. After seeing this I no longer stressed CPU, thinking it might reach temperatures much higher, knowing that AMD APU Chips are projected to work at "fresh" temps.

Could anyone help me to clarify this situation?
Are CPUID CPU-Package temps overstimating real temps, maybe because Richland APUs are not supported yet?
Or maybe I haven't correctly applied the thermal paste, leaving a layer too thick between the CPU die and the heatsink?

Furthermore some days ago I noticed that the chipset heatsink becomes very hot quickly after boot; under load I can't touch it for more than 1 sec, in idle is still quite hot.
If the heatsink became so hot I don't think that is a thermal paste issue.
I read around that NB heatsinks can reach very high temps, even higher than CPU/GPU, but I am a little worried about it.
Do you reccomend me to replace the NB heatsink with an aftermarket one?
Anyway I don't know if there is software for reading NB temps to confirm my sensation, any help would be appreciate.

Thanks in advance for the help!

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July 25, 2013 11:27:28 PM

iBobbe said:
Hey guys,
I recently build a new system:
AsRock FM2A85X Extreme 4-m
AMD A8-6500 65W tdp
2x4GB Kingston single channel (wrong mounting)
Corsair CX430M
Case Chieftec HM-02
Scythe Big Shuriken 2 rev.B with Noctua NF-F12 PWM
Others fans for air in-take/out-take

It's the first time I build a PC and I have some doubts/fears about the temperatures of the system.
I updated the BIOS at the latest version and installed HWMonitor CPUID and AsRock Extreme Tuning Utility for monitoring the temps.

AsRock Utility show me CPU and MB temps and the readings match the BIOS ones.
These readings are quite reassuring: CPU stays at about 40°C in idle and under load reaches 60°C, enabling BIOS feature that lets the fans to run at full speed, lowering temp down to 55°C and so on.

CPUID show me 4 values under MB section (in idle):
-SYSTIN 37° C
-CPUTIN 40° C
-AUXTIN 63° C
-TMPIN3 40° C

The first two values match MB and CPU temps provided by BIOS/AsRock Utility,
AUXTIN and TMPIN3 are constant and don't change even under load (maybe dummy values?).

The strange is that under CPU section CPUID show me Package temperature, wich is nearly 60° C in idle. After seeing this I no longer stressed CPU, thinking it might reach temperatures much higher, knowing that AMD APU Chips are projected to work at "fresh" temps.

Could anyone help me to clarify this situation?
Are CPUID CPU-Package temps overstimating real temps, maybe because Richland APUs are not supported yet?
Or maybe I haven't correctly applied the thermal paste, leaving a layer too thick between the CPU die and the heatsink?

Furthermore some days ago I noticed that the chipset heatsink becomes very hot quickly after boot; under load I can't touch it for more than 1 sec, in idle is still quite hot.
If the heatsink became so hot I don't think that is a thermal paste issue.
I read around that NB heatsinks can reach very high temps, even higher than CPU/GPU, but I am a little worried about it.
Do you reccomend me to replace the NB heatsink with an aftermarket one?
Anyway I don't know if there is software for reading NB temps to confirm my sensation, any help would be appreciate.

Thanks in advance for the help!


I know many are having software related incompatibities reading the Richland parts which could also be attributed to BIOS revisions and software updates, that all being said software cannot claim to be accurate and should only be used as a guide.

Your heat readings could be attributed to the BIOS, having the same motherboard I believe 1.70 is the latest while the board ships with 1.30 stock that may be one reason, the other may be down to application and quality of thermal grease. Another thing coming down from the Extreme 6 was that the BIOS in auto ramps voltages up, seen stock clock voltages hit 1.45+ on the CPU and 1.4 on the CPU/NB which is way to high and with LLC on auto you are going to run higher voltages. Turn off all power save feature and turbo, find the lowest stable voltage manually then monitor.

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July 26, 2013 3:20:38 AM

Thanks for your advices;
I've used Arctic Silver MX-4 as thermal paste, I'm planning to repaste the CPU because I've incorrectly mounted RAMs and now they are working on single channel and I've to unmount the CPU cooler in order to do that, so I can check if the paste has spread correctly and if the layer isn't too thick (it's the first time I mount a CPU cooler).

I upgraded the BIOS to the latest version 1.80 released three days ago and I've installed Speedfan too.
Speedfan show me temps compatibles with BIOS/AsRock Utility/CPUID MB-section and they are all under 40°C in idle.

My only concerns are about the ~60°C (idle) Package temp value shown by HWmonitor and the Northbridge heatsink running very hot.

Note: HWMonitor and Speedfan show me GPU temp too, wich is 4-12°C obviously incorrect, so my question is:
could the GPU running very hot and not shown correctly by software raising the Package temp, which display the temp of the whole chip?
However, it is hardly possible that there is such a big difference (~20°C) between two elements so close, probably it's just a false positive...
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July 26, 2013 6:41:00 AM

iBobbe said:
Thanks for your advices;
I've used Arctic Silver MX-4 as thermal paste, I'm planning to repaste the CPU because I've incorrectly mounted RAMs and now they are working on single channel and I've to unmount the CPU cooler in order to do that, so I can check if the paste has spread correctly and if the layer isn't too thick (it's the first time I mount a CPU cooler).

I upgraded the BIOS to the latest version 1.80 released three days ago and I've installed Speedfan too.
Speedfan show me temps compatibles with BIOS/AsRock Utility/CPUID MB-section and they are all under 40°C in idle.

My only concerns are about the ~60°C (idle) Package temp value shown by HWmonitor and the Northbridge heatsink running very hot.

Note: HWMonitor and Speedfan show me GPU temp too, wich is 4-12°C obviously incorrect, so my question is:
could the GPU running very hot and not shown correctly by software raising the Package temp, which display the temp of the whole chip?
However, it is hardly possible that there is such a big difference (~20°C) between two elements so close, probably it's just a false positive...


Have you tried AIDA64 with its updates, I am aware that AIDA had updated to Richland support. As for your temps they are definitely incorrect so I wouldn't be to concerned, if you were idling around 60 you would have had a failure by now. For now I am just calling this a software related issue.

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July 27, 2013 6:11:53 AM

I've tried with AIDA64 Extreme trial, wich report CPU and MB temps like BIOS and the others.
I placed a 60mm fan over the chipset heatsink and it stays at lower temp now, meanwhile I purchased a Zalman NB47J to replace the AsRock heatsink (wich is elegant but not so good for cooling due of its low profile imho)
http://www.insidehardware.it/images/stories/articoli/as...

Thank you for reassuring me, I will post some update when the softwares will full support Richland APU ;) 


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August 25, 2013 6:47:27 AM

I have the same setup only with a a-6 richland apu and asrock pro 4 motherboard. I get cpu readings around 35 and motherboard around 32 but cpu package temp in hw monitor for me reads about 55 to 65 no load and 70 with a load.
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