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July 26, 2013 4:55:50 AM

i currently have an i5 2500k clocked at 4.8GHz cooled by a hyper 212
i am thinking of getting either an i7 2600k or a 2700k (i understand that they are basicly identical only the 2700k is clocked a little higher so it might yield better overclock results but then again it might not)
i am also thinking of getting a new fan to replace the 212

should i save up and buy the 26/700k first (because i think intel are doing the last batch at the end of the year or something and i am guessing that with the ps4 and xbone having eight cores pc games might actually start making use of eight cores so staying with four would be bad) or should i get a better cooler so i can clock the i5 higher?

also i have an NZXT phantom (the big one) so would closed loop water cooling be a good option? (so long as it isn't one i put on the side of the case putting it at the front (i think theres a fan space on the front) the back or the top is preferable)

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a c 406 à CPUs
July 26, 2013 5:56:09 AM

Whats ur budget???
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July 26, 2013 6:23:41 AM

for the fan? up to... £100 probably higher
for the processor I can get a 2600k for about £250 and that is more or less what I am expecting to pay

also no American websites so places like ebuyer.com amazon uk overclockers.co.uk and scan.co.uk please (I live in England and its sort of annoying when someone says they have found something for a good price and then it turns out its on newegg or something)
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a c 406 à CPUs
July 26, 2013 6:26:11 AM

Ohkay i ll give u a built
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a b à CPUs
July 26, 2013 6:39:49 AM

You shouldn't do anything. Your processor is absolutely fantastic.
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July 26, 2013 6:48:15 AM

^ how so?

also the kraken has a two fan wide radiator (apparently 140mm) I only have one place for a 140mm fan and that's at the front (the side has two 120mm fans and space for one 200/230mm fan) how do these things mount usually? do they mount like a normal fan or do they have brackets?

also doesn't the 2600k overclock a lot better than the 3770k? (I heard the third gen and up get really hot) also according to various places the 3770k does outperform the 2600k but only by a very very slim margin at factory settings (and if the 2600k can clock better than it then that slim margin means nothing)
although the 2600k does appear to be £20 more expensive across the board
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a c 406 à CPUs
July 26, 2013 6:52:32 AM

No problem get a x40
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July 26, 2013 7:11:47 AM

hmmm I think the water cooling is going to be a bit complicated
I think I will go with the cheaper (albeit heavy) nh-d14 and the 2600k (because like I said the marginal increase in performance the 3770k has over the 2600k isn't going to mean much if what a lot of people are saying on the internet is true that the 2600k overclocks better than the 3770k

but what should I really be looking at getting first? would an i7 2600k do ok on a 212 or should I get a nh-d14 and run the risk of the 2600k becoming unavailable because according to cpu world the Last order date is March 29, 2013 and the Last shipment date for tray processors is September 27, 2013
I assume that last order date is the last day businesses like ebuyer can order more and the last shipment date is the day the last batch is going to be completed? (so basically ebuyer will not have any more 2600k's in stock)
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July 26, 2013 7:18:18 AM

3770k is much bettr overclocker than the sandy and there is a perfrmance gap
The 3770k is a bttr o.c. Than 4770k
And this liquid cooling is not complicated as they are closed liquid coolers with no leakage or anything the radiator is just like mounting a 140mm fan

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July 26, 2013 7:33:47 AM

the 2600k apparently overclocks higher ruling out the slightly better performance the 3770k has per clock (apparently)
the 3770k uses less power (I have a 1000watt psu power is no issue here)
the 3770k apparently gets hotter - and there's my problem my case is in a little alcove in the wall so the side with the fans on is right up against a wall the front air intake grille thing is not up against a wall (mainly due to the fact its slanted) and the rear exhaust fan is also right up against a wall

also I just found that I can get a 2700k from amazon for about £15 cheaper (and £10-£15 more expensive than the 3770k) than the 2600k and with he 2700k being a 2600k that has passed some tests (or was it the 2600k is a 2700k that has failed some tests but only slightly?) it should have a higher overclock potential...

as for the water cooling I will have a look at the front fan mountings on my case to see if there is enough clearance for a large fan and radiator because there is a lot of talk about liquid cooling radiators being affixed to the top of the case and I have found little talking about putting it at the front
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July 26, 2013 7:35:49 AM

Like I said, your processor is absolutely fine.

@Sn1992, the 3770K is absolutely not a better overclocker than the 2600K or 2700k.
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July 26, 2013 7:41:42 AM

these are the two bits I am looking at
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2mNU
the 2500k will be put into another computer cooled by the hyper 212 and with a 275 for graphics (although it will probably be joined by the 7970 a few months after)
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a c 406 à CPUs
July 26, 2013 7:50:56 AM

Good to go

Buy it


And dont frget to close the post
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a b à CPUs
July 26, 2013 12:05:04 PM

heero yuy said:
the 2500k will be put into another computer cooled by the hyper 212 and with a 275 for graphics (although it will probably be joined by the 7970 a few months after)


Shoulda said that earlier! I just didn't want you to spend money for no reason.
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July 26, 2013 4:29:24 PM

I upgrade my two computers in a sort of rolling upgrade and when I get a third computer I sell it

my reasoning behind getting an i7 is that with the next gen consoles having 8 cores/threads more pc games might make use of multiple cores so its a pre-emptive upgrade

plus I could probably turn off the hyperthreading or two of the cores (turning off two cores and not the hyperthreading should leave me with 4 threads right?) and then I might be able to clock the i7 even higher
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July 26, 2013 4:35:19 PM

Yes that is very reasonable as most future games wud b utilizing more cores this is the reason latest consoles like ps4 and xbox1 will eight cores so i7 is a great future proofed




Dont frget to close the post
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July 28, 2013 10:35:19 AM

You'd be better off just disabling hyper-threading. 4 cores>2 HT cores. You might be able to clock higher, but unless it's much higher, it won't do you good.
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