Intel or AMD build for moderate gaming (details inside)?

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I'm looking to build a budget gaming rig but for the life of me, can't figure out which way to go. My budget for cpu/mobo/ram is ~$200US. Any expert advice welcome!

AMD-based rig:
cpu: AMD A6-6400: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113335&Tpk=AMD%20Richland%20FM2%20A6-6400K%20Black
mobo: MSI FM2-a75MA-E35: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130662

VS. Intel-based system
cpu: Pentium G2120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116777
mobo: MSI B75MA-E33: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130654&Tpk=MSI%20B75MA-E33%20Micro%20ATX%20LGA1155%20Motherboard

Memory (for either): Corsair 8GB (2x4GB): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233192&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-20-233-192-_-Product

Initially I was all set on the AMD build since I'd read in the reviews that the APU the A6-6400 has can run SWTOR with no problems which is pretty impressive. The discrete GPU I was planning on sticking in was my old, reliable 8800GTX (while I get more cash to get a GTX 650 Ti Boost). So it seems the APU seems roughly comparable to my 8800GTX while saving power consumption. But what made me doubt it was several posts here on TH where folks mentioned the A6-6400 saying to use the G2120 instead so I got to digging & realized it had 3MB of L3 cache vs. A6-6400's 1MB but sacrificing the built-in APU.

I'll be doing some moderate gaming while in Windows7 (I hope to upgrade from my old Win XP) & will be dual-booting into Linux for my web development/web server needs as well as checking out Steam (now that it has a Linux client).

Any thoughts from the folks here as to which way to go?
 
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this was due to budget constraint but now i corrected the built

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($76.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $293.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-28 09:53 EDT-0400)

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My budget is roughly $200US for the cpu/mobo/RAM. So I guess I should've said budget gaming instead of moderate gaming. ;)

Also, I should add that the mobo I choose should be Linux-friendly. I'm still researching which mobo manufacturers don't shove UEFI down your throat & make it easy to switch to legacy BIOS. I'm sure hoping MSI is as I've heard great things about it, Gigabyte & AS Rock.
 

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Yes, SN1992. I have my old, trusty 8800GTX. But I've been told in another thread that it's not that great nowadays so the APU in the A6-6400 is probably similar in performance (read some reviewers on newegg saying it could run SWTOR, Rift, Defiance on low/med setting which I was impressed with). So that's where my question lies, spend on a decent cpu that has a built-in APU for graphics or go with a better cpu that doesnt have an APU, use my 8800GTX for now & invest in something like a GTX 650 Ti Boost down the road. What are your thoughts on this folks? Thanks in advance for your replies & expertise.
 

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In that other thread, I've been informed that it's wiser to avoid a cpu + apu since my 8800GTX is probably comparable to the apu's (i was looking at AMD's A-series as seen above). That makes sense since I can save up for a better discrete GPU like the GTX650 Ti Boost once I get more cash & just go with a cpu/mobo that's a little better. But even then, my budget is really limiting me.

Because of that, I'm really looking at an AM3+ mobo + FX series AMD-based chip combo. I still need to get RAM so it'll be pricier than what I intend to spend ($250US max!) but it'll give me better flexibility down the road. Others have suggested going w/an Intel build but I've been looking at AMD since it's usually more a more budget-friendly build. Any thoughts/suggestions on which way to go there? Including if I should spend a bit more on a mobo that supports 1866 RAM natively (without OC) vs. a cheaper mobo that only supports, say, 1333? Any all help/ideas welcome! Thanks in advance!
 
I wud fr now suggest to have a combination of this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $242.22
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-27 06:27 EDT-0400)

And use ur 8800gtx till u have 100$ and then add a 7770 ghz graphic card


This wud b the best way to upgrade ur system
 
this was due to budget constraint but now i corrected the built

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($76.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $293.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-28 09:53 EDT-0400)
 
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Hi Sn1992 & thanks for your answer!

Any particular reason to go w/the MSI mobo over the Biostar? That MSI board is like $25 more than the Biostar I chose. I'm not planning on doing SLI/Crossfire by the time the mobo warranty runs out (usually 3yrs) mostly due cuz my case's psu isn't mounted on the bottom which I'd think best for getting the most efficient airflow (I have a Cooler Master Elite 335 & included the closest model available in the build but I won't be buying a new one atm).

Why the Corsair over the Kingston?
The only thing I wasn't liking about the Kingston HyperX RAM was its 1.65V which they default to set at 1333 @1.5v so you'd have to go into the BIOS to change it to its rated speed (not sure if that's considered OC'ing, which I'm just trying to avoid in general but initially for sure since I won't be getting any after market cpu cooling).
What I WAS liking about the HyperX RAM, besides being $20 cheaper than normal & also being an Iron Egg Guaranteed item, was its low profile. Since I'm thinking of getting an Evo212 cpu cooler later (if its needed) & its kinda bulky & had read lots of reviews that it blocks some of the RAM slots so low-profile RAM like the Kingston HyperX was good while the Corsair looks kinda high-profile.

I'm curious why the MSI board & Corsair ram? Have you had builds successfully use this combo w/the FX-6300?
Since I'm planning on (probably) just running 1 card (the GTX650 Ti Boost once I get more cash) & don't plan on overclocking either the cpu or the ram will I be needing an after market cpu cooler with a good rep like the Evo212? My current case has a slot for a 120mm fan in the front but it didn't come w/it so I never added one. Should I be getting one? Granted, on my old rig which ran for 4 yrs 24/7 would sometimes overheat & while the ambient temps were sometimes hot, I mostly attributed it to the sheer amount of dust since I live in an area that gets LOTS of dust (near a corner, surrounded by parking lots & don't have built-in AC so leave the window open). What are your thoughts on all of this? Thanks in advance!
 

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Oh forgot to mention that all 3 items i chose: cpu/mobo/ram are all Iron Egg Guaranteed items & are all on sale. Budget is a concern after all & w/out the case sits at $235 pre-tax. :)
 
First thing is that biostar was choosed over msi as
Msi ,asus ,gigabyte ,asrock are best mobo makers
And i picked the biostar just because of limited budget
I chose corsair over kingston as corsair and kingston makes best quality ram for gaming pcs and its better to get corsair and if u want LP memory then u can get corsair vengeance LP

And ur case would run ur system too hot
 

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Ahh, got it, Sn1992. So you're suggesting I go w/MSI/ASUS, Gigabyte or ASRock over Biostar cuz they're a bit better? I guess a few more bucks investment wouldn't suck. I'd looked at some of those but a few mobos had 1600(OC) which I figured meant that I'd have to OC the ram to get it to that speed even if the RAM was natively 1600?

Also, you're saying Corsair Vengeance LP RAM > Kingston HyperX? One of the main reasons why I picked the Kingston was cuz it was low-profile RAM w/the heat spreaders not sticking up to far in case I got an EVO212 cpu cooler which is pretty bulky & can block RAM slots.

So you're saying my Cooler Master Elite 335 would run my system too hot even though I'm not OC'ing? It currently doesn't have a front-panel 120mm fan installed tho it has the area for it so was thinking of getting one to increase air flow? So should I automatically get the EVO212 cuz of my case?
 

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And for the ram u can go with both of them


The haf 912 is not having front usb 3.0 ports
Its better to get a 300r


Yes it would be quite hot

But what u can do is for now dont buy the case check if the temps exeed 55-60 and if they do u should get a. Case after wards
 

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Ya, my case is pretty well-rated/reviewed on Newegg but will definitely invest in better cooling/air flow later on. Here's what I'm finally pondering. The mobo reflects retail price but I'll be getting the open box deal which is $10 more than what I was going to pay for the Biostar. There's 2 types of RAM in there cuz I'm torn as to which to go with. Any thoughts on all this since I'll probably be purchasing today?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($7.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($104.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $363.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-29 04:14 EDT-0400)
 

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Bu if the Crucial Sport XT & Corsair Vengeance were only a few bucks difference, would the Corsair be better? I'm thinking of either of these though I'm not still not convinced the heat spreaders & high profile are worth it. Or will they actually help a little bit if my case runs a little warm?

Btw, any thoughts on taking a risk on the 'Open Box' (so, cheaper) ASUS vs. the Biostar 970 I'd initially thought of going with once I decided on FX-6300? The ASUS is $15 more but the Biostar is unopened so less of a risk (though if I read it right on the Newegg site, the real risk is that certain 'bundle items' might not be included like manual, cables, etc. so it's kinda a small-risk crap shoot but a risk nonetheless)?

Thanks in advance. Getting really close to purchasing now. :)