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July 27, 2013 9:48:33 PM

Hello! I am an entry level developer and i am hooking up my haswell build, i have already bought an core i7 4770 because i needed support for some of the advanced intel technologies which are not there in 4770k. But now i figured out that the mobo also needs to support these technologies for them to work. I will be installing a 1600MHz 2*8GB or 4*4GB ram for my rig. Earlier i was planning to buy asrock z87m extreme4 mobo.

My processor suppourt
Intel® vPro Technology ‡
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡
Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology ‡
AES New Instructions
Intel® TSX-NI
Intel® 64 ‡
Intel® Anti-Theft Technology
Idle States
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
Thermal Monitoring Technologies
Execute Disable Bit ‡
Intel® Secure Key
Intel® Identity Protection Technology ‡
(source: http://ark.intel.com/products/75122/)
which of these technologies need motherboard support to work. For example do the motherboard needs to suppourt TSX-NI for me to use it. I know that VT-d is needed to be suppourted by the motherboard. I tried finding some intel mobos and i found this one http://ark.intel.com/products/70903/Intel-Desktop-Board... in whose specs few of the advance technologies are listed to be supported. But nothing is mentioned about others.

Please help me out!

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July 27, 2013 10:24:28 PM

kumarsaurabhraj said:
Hello! I am an entry level developer and i am hooking up my haswell build, i have already bought an core i7 4770 because i needed support for some of the advanced intel technologies which are not there in 4770k. But now i figured out that the mobo also needs to support these technologies for them to work. I will be installing a 1600MHz 2*8GB or 4*4GB ram for my rig. Earlier i was planning to buy asrock z87m extreme4 mobo.

My processor suppourt
Intel® vPro Technology ‡
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡
Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology ‡
AES New Instructions
Intel® TSX-NI
Intel® 64 ‡
Intel® Anti-Theft Technology
Idle States
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
Thermal Monitoring Technologies
Execute Disable Bit ‡
Intel® Secure Key
Intel® Identity Protection Technology ‡
(source: http://ark.intel.com/products/75122/)
which of these technologies need motherboard support to work. For example do the motherboard needs to suppourt TSX-NI for me to use it. I know that VT-d is needed to be suppourted by the motherboard. I tried finding some intel mobos and i found this one http://ark.intel.com/products/70903/Intel-Desktop-Board... in whose specs few of the advance technologies are listed to be supported. But nothing is mentioned about others.

Please help me out!


You are looking at Q87 chipset , this is a business oriented chipset , and has also TPM chip onboard . and those boards have extra features not found on consumer motherboards like the Z87 , the question is , do you need it or not ? or are you just wanting EVERYTHING ? if you dont need it , dont buy it.

for what are you buying your pc ?
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July 27, 2013 11:23:01 PM

SNA3 said:
kumarsaurabhraj said:
Hello! I am an entry level developer and i am hooking up my haswell build, i have already bought an core i7 4770 because i needed support for some of the advanced intel technologies which are not there in 4770k. But now i figured out that the mobo also needs to support these technologies for them to work. I will be installing a 1600MHz 2*8GB or 4*4GB ram for my rig. Earlier i was planning to buy asrock z87m extreme4 mobo.

My processor suppourt
Intel® vPro Technology ‡
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡
Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology ‡
AES New Instructions
Intel® TSX-NI
Intel® 64 ‡
Intel® Anti-Theft Technology
Idle States
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
Thermal Monitoring Technologies
Execute Disable Bit ‡
Intel® Secure Key
Intel® Identity Protection Technology ‡
(source: http://ark.intel.com/products/75122/)
which of these technologies need motherboard support to work. For example do the motherboard needs to suppourt TSX-NI for me to use it. I know that VT-d is needed to be suppourted by the motherboard. I tried finding some intel mobos and i found this one http://ark.intel.com/products/70903/Intel-Desktop-Board... in whose specs few of the advance technologies are listed to be supported. But nothing is mentioned about others.

Please help me out!


You are looking at Q87 chipset , this is a business oriented chipset , and has also TPM chip onboard . and those boards have extra features not found on consumer motherboards like the Z87 , the question is , do you need it or not ? or are you just wanting EVERYTHING ? if you dont need it , dont buy it.

for what are you buying your pc ?


I am an entry level app developer and number cruncher, matlab and mathematica programmer. I am buying my pc for application development and scientific computing (i do not plan to buy nvidia tesla, quadro or anything like that at the moment). These new technologies such as TSX-NI, VT-x might help me in application development, so i need them. Do these q87 mobos have any disadvantage over enthusiast z87, h87 mobos? I also plan to use my computer for casual modelling (using cad cam or autodesk) and time pass gaming with a very low end card.
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July 27, 2013 11:43:29 PM

kumarsaurabhraj said:
SNA3 said:
kumarsaurabhraj said:
Hello! I am an entry level developer and i am hooking up my haswell build, i have already bought an core i7 4770 because i needed support for some of the advanced intel technologies which are not there in 4770k. But now i figured out that the mobo also needs to support these technologies for them to work. I will be installing a 1600MHz 2*8GB or 4*4GB ram for my rig. Earlier i was planning to buy asrock z87m extreme4 mobo.

My processor suppourt
Intel® vPro Technology ‡
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡
Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology ‡
AES New Instructions
Intel® TSX-NI
Intel® 64 ‡
Intel® Anti-Theft Technology
Idle States
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
Thermal Monitoring Technologies
Execute Disable Bit ‡
Intel® Secure Key
Intel® Identity Protection Technology ‡
(source: http://ark.intel.com/products/75122/)
which of these technologies need motherboard support to work. For example do the motherboard needs to suppourt TSX-NI for me to use it. I know that VT-d is needed to be suppourted by the motherboard. I tried finding some intel mobos and i found this one http://ark.intel.com/products/70903/Intel-Desktop-Board... in whose specs few of the advance technologies are listed to be supported. But nothing is mentioned about others.

Please help me out!


You are looking at Q87 chipset , this is a business oriented chipset , and has also TPM chip onboard . and those boards have extra features not found on consumer motherboards like the Z87 , the question is , do you need it or not ? or are you just wanting EVERYTHING ? if you dont need it , dont buy it.

for what are you buying your pc ?


I am an entry level app developer and number cruncher, matlab and mathematica programmer. I am buying my pc for application development and scientific computing (i do not plan to buy nvidia tesla, quadro or anything like that at the moment). These new technologies such as TSX-NI, VT-x might help me in application development, so i need them. Do these q87 mobos have any disadvantage over enthusiast z87, h87 mobos? I also plan to use my computer for casual modelling (using cad cam or autodesk) and time pass gaming with a very low end card.


Then your choice is totally wrong , you need to look at entry level Xeons and at least 6 cores SandyBridge-EP Xeons.

or Better wait for september and get the IvyBridge-EP xeons

dont look at entry level i7 and so for professional work.

and they are not expensive by the way , single socket Xeons are the same price per core as the i7
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July 28, 2013 12:56:29 AM

SNA3 said:
kumarsaurabhraj said:
SNA3 said:
kumarsaurabhraj said:
Hello! I am an entry level developer and i am hooking up my haswell build, i have already bought an core i7 4770 because i needed support for some of the advanced intel technologies which are not there in 4770k. But now i figured out that the mobo also needs to support these technologies for them to work. I will be installing a 1600MHz 2*8GB or 4*4GB ram for my rig. Earlier i was planning to buy asrock z87m extreme4 mobo.

My processor suppourt
Intel® vPro Technology ‡
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡
Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology ‡
AES New Instructions
Intel® TSX-NI
Intel® 64 ‡
Intel® Anti-Theft Technology
Idle States
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
Thermal Monitoring Technologies
Execute Disable Bit ‡
Intel® Secure Key
Intel® Identity Protection Technology ‡
(source: http://ark.intel.com/products/75122/)
which of these technologies need motherboard support to work. For example do the motherboard needs to suppourt TSX-NI for me to use it. I know that VT-d is needed to be suppourted by the motherboard. I tried finding some intel mobos and i found this one http://ark.intel.com/products/70903/Intel-Desktop-Board... in whose specs few of the advance technologies are listed to be supported. But nothing is mentioned about others.

Please help me out!


You are looking at Q87 chipset , this is a business oriented chipset , and has also TPM chip onboard . and those boards have extra features not found on consumer motherboards like the Z87 , the question is , do you need it or not ? or are you just wanting EVERYTHING ? if you dont need it , dont buy it.

for what are you buying your pc ?


I am an entry level app developer and number cruncher, matlab and mathematica programmer. I am buying my pc for application development and scientific computing (i do not plan to buy nvidia tesla, quadro or anything like that at the moment). These new technologies such as TSX-NI, VT-x might help me in application development, so i need them. Do these q87 mobos have any disadvantage over enthusiast z87, h87 mobos? I also plan to use my computer for casual modelling (using cad cam or autodesk) and time pass gaming with a very low end card.


Then your choice is totally wrong , you need to look at entry level Xeons and at least 6 cores SandyBridge-EP Xeons.

or Better wait for september and get the IvyBridge-EP xeons

dont look at entry level i7 and so for professional work.

and they are not expensive by the way , single socket Xeons are the same price per core as the i7


Sorry but i as i am entry level i do not need that much processing power i.e. 6 cores, 4 cores and 8 threads will be fine for my needs. I just want to know is there any significant disadvantage of these q87 mobos over z87 mobos. I even wanted to know which of the advanced technologies i have listed that my processor supports are mobo dependent i.e. will work only if the mobo supports them. Are there any other motherboards which have support for technologies like VT-d and TSX-NI etc.
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July 28, 2013 12:56:29 AM

SNA3 said:
kumarsaurabhraj said:
SNA3 said:
kumarsaurabhraj said:
Hello! I am an entry level developer and i am hooking up my haswell build, i have already bought an core i7 4770 because i needed support for some of the advanced intel technologies which are not there in 4770k. But now i figured out that the mobo also needs to support these technologies for them to work. I will be installing a 1600MHz 2*8GB or 4*4GB ram for my rig. Earlier i was planning to buy asrock z87m extreme4 mobo.

My processor suppourt
Intel® vPro Technology ‡
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡
Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology ‡
AES New Instructions
Intel® TSX-NI
Intel® 64 ‡
Intel® Anti-Theft Technology
Idle States
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
Thermal Monitoring Technologies
Execute Disable Bit ‡
Intel® Secure Key
Intel® Identity Protection Technology ‡
(source: http://ark.intel.com/products/75122/)
which of these technologies need motherboard support to work. For example do the motherboard needs to suppourt TSX-NI for me to use it. I know that VT-d is needed to be suppourted by the motherboard. I tried finding some intel mobos and i found this one http://ark.intel.com/products/70903/Intel-Desktop-Board... in whose specs few of the advance technologies are listed to be supported. But nothing is mentioned about others.

Please help me out!


You are looking at Q87 chipset , this is a business oriented chipset , and has also TPM chip onboard . and those boards have extra features not found on consumer motherboards like the Z87 , the question is , do you need it or not ? or are you just wanting EVERYTHING ? if you dont need it , dont buy it.

for what are you buying your pc ?


I am an entry level app developer and number cruncher, matlab and mathematica programmer. I am buying my pc for application development and scientific computing (i do not plan to buy nvidia tesla, quadro or anything like that at the moment). These new technologies such as TSX-NI, VT-x might help me in application development, so i need them. Do these q87 mobos have any disadvantage over enthusiast z87, h87 mobos? I also plan to use my computer for casual modelling (using cad cam or autodesk) and time pass gaming with a very low end card.


Then your choice is totally wrong , you need to look at entry level Xeons and at least 6 cores SandyBridge-EP Xeons.

or Better wait for september and get the IvyBridge-EP xeons

dont look at entry level i7 and so for professional work.

and they are not expensive by the way , single socket Xeons are the same price per core as the i7


Sorry but i as i am entry level i do not need that much processing power i.e. 6 cores and even my budget dose'nt allow me to, 4 cores and 8 threads will be fine for my needs but please suggest some xeons at same price as i7 4770. I just want to know is there any significant disadvantage of these q87 mobos over z87 mobos. I even wanted to know which of the advanced technologies i have listed that my processor supports are mobo dependent i.e. will work only if the mobo supports them. Are there any other motherboards which have support for technologies like VT-d and TSX-NI etc.
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July 28, 2013 1:11:18 AM

kumarsaurabhraj said:
SNA3 said:
kumarsaurabhraj said:
SNA3 said:
kumarsaurabhraj said:
Hello! I am an entry level developer and i am hooking up my haswell build, i have already bought an core i7 4770 because i needed support for some of the advanced intel technologies which are not there in 4770k. But now i figured out that the mobo also needs to support these technologies for them to work. I will be installing a 1600MHz 2*8GB or 4*4GB ram for my rig. Earlier i was planning to buy asrock z87m extreme4 mobo.

My processor suppourt
Intel® vPro Technology ‡
Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡
Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡
Intel® Trusted Execution Technology ‡
AES New Instructions
Intel® TSX-NI
Intel® 64 ‡
Intel® Anti-Theft Technology
Idle States
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology
Thermal Monitoring Technologies
Execute Disable Bit ‡
Intel® Secure Key
Intel® Identity Protection Technology ‡
(source: http://ark.intel.com/products/75122/)
which of these technologies need motherboard support to work. For example do the motherboard needs to suppourt TSX-NI for me to use it. I know that VT-d is needed to be suppourted by the motherboard. I tried finding some intel mobos and i found this one http://ark.intel.com/products/70903/Intel-Desktop-Board... in whose specs few of the advance technologies are listed to be supported. But nothing is mentioned about others.

Please help me out!


You are looking at Q87 chipset , this is a business oriented chipset , and has also TPM chip onboard . and those boards have extra features not found on consumer motherboards like the Z87 , the question is , do you need it or not ? or are you just wanting EVERYTHING ? if you dont need it , dont buy it.

for what are you buying your pc ?


I am an entry level app developer and number cruncher, matlab and mathematica programmer. I am buying my pc for application development and scientific computing (i do not plan to buy nvidia tesla, quadro or anything like that at the moment). These new technologies such as TSX-NI, VT-x might help me in application development, so i need them. Do these q87 mobos have any disadvantage over enthusiast z87, h87 mobos? I also plan to use my computer for casual modelling (using cad cam or autodesk) and time pass gaming with a very low end card.


Then your choice is totally wrong , you need to look at entry level Xeons and at least 6 cores SandyBridge-EP Xeons.

or Better wait for september and get the IvyBridge-EP xeons

dont look at entry level i7 and so for professional work.

and they are not expensive by the way , single socket Xeons are the same price per core as the i7


Sorry but i as i am entry level i do not need that much processing power i.e. 6 cores and even my budget dose'nt allow me to, 4 cores and 8 threads will be fine for my needs but please suggest some xeons at same price as i7 4770. I just want to know is there any significant disadvantage of these q87 mobos over z87 mobos. I even wanted to know which of the advanced technologies i have listed that my processor supports are mobo dependent i.e. will work only if the mobo supports them. Are there any other motherboards which have support for technologies like VT-d and TSX-NI etc.


here is a Z87 chipset specs :

http://ark.intel.com/products/75013

all Z87 motherboards will be the same.

and here is Q87 chipset

http://ark.intel.com/products/75007

so any mother board with this chipset will be the same again

it follows the chipset.

and here is the Xeon C 600 chipset

http://ark.intel.com/products/63984/Intel-BD82C602-PCH

and here is the intel Haswel Xeon chipset c226

http://ark.intel.com/products/75522

those are the chipset available today ... so pick a motherboard and CPU with what you need. it follows the chipset not the Brand.

most of the technologies you mentioned are internal CPU ones..

and dont worry if you pick Haswell Xeon , there are 4 cores cheap ones .. as I said , per core and socket and ghz all are similar prices

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