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Will FX 8350 work on my m/b MSI 970A-G46?

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July 28, 2013 12:23:12 PM

I'm going to upgrade my current Phenom II X4 965 to FX 8350 and my question is - will it work on my m/b without overclocking?

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July 28, 2013 12:42:49 PM

The 8350 is not on the support list on MSI's website. However, the CPU and motherboard are both AM3+. This must mean that they are compatible but they arent recommend to be used together maybe due to bad vrm.
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July 28, 2013 12:58:00 PM

It'll work just don't plan on overclocking
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July 28, 2013 1:15:26 PM

A month ago I saw 8350 in the CPU support list! Damn, I was going to upgrade but now don't know what to do... It's a pity :-(
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July 28, 2013 1:17:00 PM

cmi86 said:
It'll work just don't plan on overclocking


do you know anyone with such a configuration? BTW, overclocking is not planned, just stock frequencies.

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July 28, 2013 1:18:46 PM

I would go for the FX-8320 it is still a very good CPU and fairly close to the performance of the FX-8350 it should work great for what you want in a upgrade.
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July 28, 2013 1:20:52 PM

I dont think it is recommended to overclock because of the crummy VRM.
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July 28, 2013 1:50:33 PM

Betailas said:
cmi86 said:
It'll work just don't plan on overclocking


do you know anyone with such a configuration? BTW, overclocking is not planned, just stock frequencies.



The fact the 8320 is listed leads me to believe that the motherboard is capable of supplying sufficient voltage as the 8320 and 8350 have the same power requirements @ 125W Those boards just have horrible VRM's that is why I say don't OC.
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July 28, 2013 2:55:04 PM

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It uses a simple 5-phase VRM to power the AM3+ socket. The board uses an all solid-state capacitor loadout, by saving on MOSFETs. The CPU VRM uses inexpensive On-Semi DPAK fare.

http://www.techpowerup.com/179310/msi-unveils-970a-g43-...

Very bad VRMs. I wouldn't even overclock an FX-6300 in that board. For an FX-6300 at 4.5GHz with a vCore of 1.44v you're looking at 150W. This board just doesn't seem to be capable of handling that.
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July 28, 2013 4:55:43 PM

ElMoIsEviL said:
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It uses a simple 5-phase VRM to power the AM3+ socket. The board uses an all solid-state capacitor loadout, by saving on MOSFETs. The CPU VRM uses inexpensive On-Semi DPAK fare.

http://www.techpowerup.com/179310/msi-unveils-970a-g43-...

Very bad VRMs. I wouldn't even overclock an FX-6300 in that board. For an FX-6300 at 4.5GHz with a vCore of 1.44v you're looking at 150W. This board just doesn't seem to be capable of handling that.


I know that for a fact. The 970A-G46 was one of the 3 4+1 970 boards I went through trying to get a good OC on my 6300. All would cap out in the 4.2 range with way too much vcore and heat. The VRM's were so bad on the MSI that when under load they would bleed so much heat they would cause the CPU to thermal throttle as it absorbed the heat from the near by VRM's !! I went and got my 8+2 Asus and within 5 minutes I Had 4.5Ghz on stock voltage(1.38) Just goes to show the difference between a good board and a junk board.
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July 28, 2013 7:15:31 PM

cmi86 said:
ElMoIsEviL said:
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It uses a simple 5-phase VRM to power the AM3+ socket. The board uses an all solid-state capacitor loadout, by saving on MOSFETs. The CPU VRM uses inexpensive On-Semi DPAK fare.

http://www.techpowerup.com/179310/msi-unveils-970a-g43-...

Very bad VRMs. I wouldn't even overclock an FX-6300 in that board. For an FX-6300 at 4.5GHz with a vCore of 1.44v you're looking at 150W. This board just doesn't seem to be capable of handling that.


I know that for a fact. The 970A-G46 was one of the 3 4+1 970 boards I went through trying to get a good OC on my 6300. All would cap out in the 4.2 range with way too much vcore and heat. The VRM's were so bad on the MSI that when under load they would bleed so much heat they would cause the CPU to thermal throttle as it absorbed the heat from the near by VRM's !! I went and got my 8+2 Asus and within 5 minutes I Had 4.5Ghz on stock voltage(1.38) Just goes to show the difference between a good board and a junk board.


Sounds about right. And say the OP didn't want to overclock, VRMs still weaken over time. So it is always best to spend a tad more on the motherboard and power supply when building a system imo. Longevity & System Stability are somewhat key imo.
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July 28, 2013 7:20:12 PM

ElMoIsEviL said:
cmi86 said:
ElMoIsEviL said:
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It uses a simple 5-phase VRM to power the AM3+ socket. The board uses an all solid-state capacitor loadout, by saving on MOSFETs. The CPU VRM uses inexpensive On-Semi DPAK fare.

http://www.techpowerup.com/179310/msi-unveils-970a-g43-...

Very bad VRMs. I wouldn't even overclock an FX-6300 in that board. For an FX-6300 at 4.5GHz with a vCore of 1.44v you're looking at 150W. This board just doesn't seem to be capable of handling that.


I know that for a fact. The 970A-G46 was one of the 3 4+1 970 boards I went through trying to get a good OC on my 6300. All would cap out in the 4.2 range with way too much vcore and heat. The VRM's were so bad on the MSI that when under load they would bleed so much heat they would cause the CPU to thermal throttle as it absorbed the heat from the near by VRM's !! I went and got my 8+2 Asus and within 5 minutes I Had 4.5Ghz on stock voltage(1.38) Just goes to show the difference between a good board and a junk board.


Sounds about right. And say the OP didn't want to overclock, VRMs still weaken over time. So it is always best to spend a tad more on the motherboard and power supply when building a system imo. Longevity & System Stability are somewhat key imo.


I couldn't agree more. Thing is I believe he already has the G46 so he's gotta make do for now.
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July 28, 2013 11:00:33 PM

The thing is that I have now overclocked Phenom II X4 965 to 3.9Ghz for about a little bit more than a year and it works pretty good and it also has 125W power package. I don't have enough money to change my m/b. So, what will be the answer? Is it worth to buy 8350/8320 on this m/b or not?
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July 28, 2013 11:22:58 PM

Betailas said:
The thing is that I have now overclocked Phenom II X4 965 to 3.9Ghz for about a little bit more than a year and it works pretty good and it also has 125W power package. I don't have enough money to change my m/b. So, what will be the answer? Is it worth to buy 8350/8320 on this m/b or not?


An FX-8320 will work but not sure how long those VRMs will last.
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July 29, 2013 3:34:31 AM

Finally, I think that it will be much better to add to my existing 260$ another 70$ and buy Asus Z77 A together with Core i5 3570. But where to take them...
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July 29, 2013 10:28:00 AM

Hey, guys! Could such cooling be a solution of the question about how to reduce the temperature of VRM? I've found an old Gygabyte 80 mm cooler and with the help of double sided scotch tape attached it to the wall.
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July 29, 2013 11:28:52 AM

That could help yes. Cooling the VRMs will prevent them from hard stopping due to overheating (when you've got 4+1 Phases you don't want any hard stopping because that's an instant crash with an FX83xx). It is a thing called Ohm's Law. Whereas the electrical resistance of a material changes based on the operating temperature of a material. Heat causes resistance which lowers the overall output of a VRM. Cooling VRMs helps and also tends to cool down the CPU.
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July 29, 2013 11:32:27 AM

After 15 minutes of Prime frying -
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a c 95 à CPUs
July 29, 2013 11:35:18 AM

difficult to see but that motherboard temperature is too hot IMO. Everything else seems 'healthy' for a prime95 test.
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July 29, 2013 11:53:10 AM

I'm not sure what temperature is responsible for chipsets and what - for VRM. Plus I'm going to change my case to Zalman Z9 DIII with more fans as far as now I have only 2 120mm fans - front and rear.
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July 29, 2013 12:02:09 PM

I recommend that you install a top outlet fan in that case!
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July 29, 2013 12:10:54 PM

Azrael47 said:
I recommend that you install a top outlet fan in that case!

in my current case or in Zalman? and what fan would you recommend?

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July 29, 2013 12:26:34 PM

Azrael47 said:
zalman and a 140mm fan that is quiet and cn shift a ton of air say this one>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CO-9050009-WW-Series-Ed...

and where? to the front panel or to the upper? I've touched VRM radiator under this 80mm fan and it was slightly warm, maybe about 40C.

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July 29, 2013 12:43:04 PM

at the top to suck heat from ram/motherboard out of the case.
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October 14, 2013 4:11:58 PM

I have the 970a-g46 motherboard with a 8350 cpu. I been able to boot up to 4.8 but haven't been able to get a passing stress test above 4.6. Currently running stable at 1.4v and 4500. With stock voltage it will run comfortably up to 4400. At stock this board runs the cpu with no problem
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April 10, 2014 9:24:33 AM

ElMoIsEviL said:
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It uses a simple 5-phase VRM to power the AM3+ socket. The board uses an all solid-state capacitor loadout, by saving on MOSFETs. The CPU VRM uses inexpensive On-Semi DPAK fare.

http://www.techpowerup.com/179310/msi-unveils-970a-g43-...

Very bad VRMs. I wouldn't even overclock an FX-6300 in that board. For an FX-6300 at 4.5GHz with a vCore of 1.44v you're looking at 150W. This board just doesn't seem to be capable of handling that.


you can overclock a fx 6300 to 4.5 with a msi 970a-g46. I have and its stable and cool. never seen temps go passed 62c and that's with prime95 games never hit 60c. these cpu's can handle up to 75c or more no problem. for some reason these boards have a limited voltage selection for cpu. it goes from 1.429 to 1.44 nothing inbetween. LAME. hard to overclock passed 4.3ghz. also these fx cpu's usually can handle 400-500mhz more with stock voltages. so far I am at 4.3ghz at 1.429v 4.1ghz stock voltage is 1.425. I tried 4.5ghz @ 1.44v it ran just fine with no prime95 errors however I can't have the side on my case without it shooting up in temps. not scary temps but I don't like them to be any higher than 65c even tho they can handle it. I want my cpu to last as long as possible
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July 2, 2014 11:09:28 AM

Betailas said:
I'm going to upgrade my current Phenom II X4 965 to FX 8350 and my question is - will it work on my m/b without overclocking?


Did this work looking do the same or what did you go with?
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