Asus Z87 WS vs. Asus P9X79-E Ws Motherboard build

dekalbirving

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We are undecided which route we should take in building our newest pc build. Please give us your expert opinions & reasons why we should go the route you suggest, thanks.
1st choice: Asus P9X79-E WS mobo, I7-3930k, 16Gb G. Skill Trident X, Corsair 1200w PS, HAF-X case, 2 x EVGA GTX 690's, 2 x LG 14x Blu-rays, 128Gb SSD, 2Tb WD Hdd

2nd choice: Asus Z87 WS mobo, I7-4770k, and everything else from above.

We use the pc for everything like Adobe Creative Cloud for the kids school work, Adobe Master Collection, AutoCad, 3D Graphics, my wife uses it for work, Graphic Designs, and when we are not using it for that it is used for gaming. We wanted to know if it were possible to utilize both 690's along with a Quadro card?
 
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Tradesman1

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I'd suggest the Asus Rampage IV Extreme, handles DRAM better than the others, OCs well, plenty of ports and features:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131802

3930K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492

And I know you mention 16 GB DRAM and Tridents - but to take it further I'd suggest the 2133

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231617

(and if possible suggest going ahead and getting 32GB, prices will prob continue to climb so could lock in now

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231618
 
I have a bit of an advantage as I have your first choice , sort of.
Asus Rampage IV Extreme
Intel i7-3930K
16gb Corsair Dominator 1866mhz
Dual GTX Titans
SeaSonic 1250w gold PSU
LG Blue Ray and Sony DVD burner.
3x Samsung 256gb SSDs

The Asus MB is just about the best there is at overclocking and for sheer amount of features, outstanding board. I got an easy overclock of 4.7ghz and perfectly stable. The Titans... well nothing stands in their way, nothing.
I would highly recommend this set up. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
 

dekalbirving

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@inzone,
Question directed towards the 5 PCI 3.0 Express lanes on the Asus Rampage IV Extreme. I'm looking at the board on Newegg.com and in their details it says the board can run graphic cards at (x16, x16, x16, x16 x8). Yet, When I click on the pics above of the Asus Rampage IV Extreme it says otherwise. It says you can run 1 or 2 x16. 3 ( x16, x8, x16), 4 ( x16, x8, x8, x8). So my question to is which one is correct?
If the Asus Rampage IV Extreme can accomplish pretty much do what the Asus P9X79-E WS can do but better I will buy that one instead. However, What are your thoughts on the new Asus Z87 WS mobo for the Haswell. I could get everything I need in a pc build if I go with the Haswell but cheaper.
 
The LGA socket 2011 and X79 chipset support CPUs that give you 40 lanes of bandwidth The regular CPUs LGA 1155 and 1150 LGA socket with the Z77 and Z87 chipsets support 16 lanes of bandwidth. So that in a Z87 board you only have 16 lanes and one card will run at x16 and two cards will run at x8,x8.
On the LGA 2011 the 3930k and the X79 chipset have 40 lanes to slit up so that two video cards will have x16 each and three will have x16,x8,x8 and four will have x8,x8,x8,x8. In the bios of the Asus Rampage IV Extreme there is a page where you can see all 5 slots and what the bandwidth will be for each slot when a device is placed in a slot. This is a very cool feature that lets you place two video cards in the correct slots to get x16 each and also what will happen when a card is placed in one of the other slots , what effect it has on the bandwith for the two video cards.
There are two other pages that show a live feed as to what is placed in what slot and the same with the memory slots and which are occupied.
The OC tuner is an overlay on the screen for real time overclocking while in Windows.
I have to say this bios is the best I've seen and the features seem to be never ending, overclocking is the easiest also as it took no effort to have a 4.7 ghz clock.
I can't say what the WS boards can or can't do compared to the Rampage IV Extreme , but I have tried WS boards before and didn't think they matched up to the enthusiast boards don't forget they do design boards for specific use and if your in a work environment and gaming is secondary then you may want a WS board.
With a SSD as the OS drive the start up is less then 30 seconds and shut down is about 10 sec.

I'm currently waiting for the Asus Raidr PCI-E based SSD that will make use of system ram for a ramdisk and give preposterous read/write speeds.

I also forgot to address your last sentence in the original post where you asked about the Quattro card. There is a limit to how many video cards you can put in a computer without special chipsets and software. Four way SLI and Crossfire is that limit. So with two 690's that makes it four GPUs and four way SLI. Four way SLI is a bit harder to manage then three way or two way .

 

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The Asus Z87 WS 1150 board, is the only one that can support dual X16 video cards. Also, it can run 4 video cards at x8 each.

It can render a true dual pciE 3.0 @ x16 to each GPU.

All the other even more expensive haswell z87 boards lack this feature.

A 12 thread 4930k is fassstt. But, a 4770k with 8 threads is just as fast.

The only real advantage lga 2011 offers now is, quad channel 59-60gb memory bandwidth.

Both haswell, and ivy E are pretty close. Ivy E is just overkill, but still pretty affordable.

Only motherboard i would use with ivy E is the NEW Asus Deluxe X79, it supports, 6, usb 3.0's and, bluetooth and wifi, it is black, and yellow like all the new haswell boards.

Either way, fastest haswell gaming rig is a 4770k on a asus z87 WS. Combo for both is $600 on newegg.

Or a ivy E, 4930k, and the new Asus X79 Deluxe. Yellow, and black model.
 
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