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Hey just want some opinions on the gaming setup that I will be purchasing next week?

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July 29, 2013 4:51:04 AM

Tell me what you think, what I should get instead, you know that sorta stuff.

Case: NZXT Phantom 630
CPU: i5 4670k
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB
SSD: Samsung 840 Series 250GB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4gb)
Optical Drive: LG CH12LS28
PSU: Antec HCP-750
Monitor: ASUS VS248H 24"
Video Card: ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II OC

tell me what you thinks thanks :) 
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July 29, 2013 6:29:18 AM

Looks good to me!

Have fun & Good Luck!
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July 29, 2013 8:28:06 AM

MichaelBayTime said:
Tell me what you think, what I should get instead, you know that sorta stuff.

Case: NZXT Phantom 630
CPU: i5 4670k
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB
SSD: Samsung 840 Series 250GB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4gb)
Optical Drive: LG CH12LS28
PSU: Antec HCP-750
Monitor: ASUS VS248H 24"
Video Card: ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II OC

tell me what you thinks thanks :) 


If you're not looking to do OC then you should look for H87 or even B85 for the motherboard. As for the cpu cooler, I would get an air cooler like Coolermaster 412S or Arctic Cooling i30 or Silverstone AR03. So with the money saved, I would buy a bigger HDD and get 16GB ram instead. It's not like you will actually see any difference in games but it will increase your SSD's life.
As for the PSU, I would buy a Seasonic G-650W or XFX 750W Pro Black edition which are cheaper. Or you should get something smaller, you don't need more than 550W for this rig. This way you save a lot of money.
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July 29, 2013 9:09:33 AM

Drop the GTX 780 and get a 760.
Bank the money you save or spend it on the 840 PRO 256GB and an IPS monitor like the MX239H or VS239H-P.

The reason being a GTX 780 will get you over 100 fps in most games unless you're playing Crysis 3 (where it gets you ~50 fps).

The problem? With those kinds of framerates you'll have to use vsync to cap your framerate to your monitor's refresh rate of 60Hz. If you don't then you'll see massive screen tearing as your monitor is trying to display the 100+ frames your GPU is chugging out at 60Hz.

The question then becomes: you can get a really expensive card and cap its performance to 60fps, OR you can get a less expensive card that can do the same thing at 60fps.

The 760 will do you just fine at 1080p 60Hz unless you're playing Crysis 3, but even then I would hesitate to spend $400 to get better performance in a single game.

You WILL activate vsync with a 780, and even with the 760. You'll get 60fps. Do you want to pay $260 or $660 for the same performance?

For now, a GTX 760 for gaming at 1080p 60Hz is more than enough. In the future when titles become more demanding, you can always add another GTX 760 for SLI, which beats the performance of a GTX Titan. To do that though, you'll want to keep the 750W PSU even though you may not need all that power right now.
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July 29, 2013 11:15:11 AM

MichaelBayTime said:
Tell me what you think, what I should get instead, you know that sorta stuff.

Case: NZXT Phantom 630
CPU: i5 4670k
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB
SSD: Samsung 840 Series 250GB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4gb)
Optical Drive: LG CH12LS28
PSU: Antec HCP-750
Monitor: ASUS VS248H 24"
Video Card: ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II OC

tell me what you thinks thanks :) 


Good build - everyone will have diff opinions, but it's solid as is.

I do like the idea of an IPS monitor vs tn, but that's my personal
bias as I do a lot of photo editing.

As far as GPU, I would opt for the route you are taking and getting the
best single GPU I could afford. The 780 isn't a good price/valu proposition tho.

I don't believe you would notice any increase obtained by switching SSD's.
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July 30, 2013 5:08:20 AM

toyftw said:
MichaelBayTime said:
Tell me what you think, what I should get instead, you know that sorta stuff.

Case: NZXT Phantom 630
CPU: i5 4670k
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB
SSD: Samsung 840 Series 250GB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4gb)
Optical Drive: LG CH12LS28
PSU: Antec HCP-750
Monitor: ASUS VS248H 24"
Video Card: ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II OC

tell me what you thinks thanks :) 


Good build - everyone will have diff opinions, but it's solid as is.

I do like the idea of an IPS monitor vs tn, but that's my personal
bias as I do a lot of photo editing.

As far as GPU, I would opt for the route you are taking and getting the
best single GPU I could afford. The 780 isn't a good price/valu proposition tho.

I don't believe you would notice any increase obtained by switching SSD's.


Are you serious?! He will not see any difference by switching to SSD?! Better loading time is not considered a difference?! What about the other applications beside games?
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July 30, 2013 6:54:30 AM

hefox said:
toyftw said:
MichaelBayTime said:
Tell me what you think, what I should get instead, you know that sorta stuff.

Case: NZXT Phantom 630
CPU: i5 4670k
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB
SSD: Samsung 840 Series 250GB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4gb)
Optical Drive: LG CH12LS28
PSU: Antec HCP-750
Monitor: ASUS VS248H 24"
Video Card: ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II OC

tell me what you thinks thanks :) 


Good build - everyone will have diff opinions, but it's solid as is.

I do like the idea of an IPS monitor vs tn, but that's my personal
bias as I do a lot of photo editing.

As far as GPU, I would opt for the route you are taking and getting the
best single GPU I could afford. The 780 isn't a good price/valu proposition tho.

I don't believe you would notice any increase obtained by switching SSD's.


Are you serious?! He will not see any difference by switching to SSD?! Better loading time is not considered a difference?! What about the other applications beside games?


He already has an SSD in his build! My comment was that there wouldn't be a noticeable
difference by switching it to another model.

Did you not look at his original build?
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July 30, 2013 7:53:31 AM

Oh sorry, my mistake. I thought you're talking about not getting an SSD. And I did read his original post otherwise I would have been able to reply (check the second reply).
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July 30, 2013 12:36:42 PM

hefox said:
Oh sorry, my mistake. I thought you're talking about not getting an SSD. And I did read his original post otherwise I would have been able to reply (check the second reply).


K- agree this point in time all sys(unless budget doesn't allow) should have an SSD
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July 30, 2013 11:59:00 PM

Okay since I did some research yesterday I found out and SSD only increases FPS by a very very miniscule amount and that the only thing it's good for is loading programmes faster which to be honest I don't really care about. I am a patient person I don't care about waiting another 10 seconds for something to load if itis gonna cost me another $150. So in turn I have come up with this build.

Case: NZXT Phantom 630
CPU: i5 4670k
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4gb)
Optical Drive: LG CH12LS28
PSU: Antec HCP-750
Video Card: ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II OC

Now for the monitor guys, I leave up to you because I don't have a clue.
It has to be atleast 21.5", Have IPS, (what you guys where talking about before) and be under $275

Thanks and tell me what you think
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July 31, 2013 6:25:54 AM

If you don't want an SSD (which makes loading *everything* faster, including movies, music, boot times, documents, ie everything you use your computer for..) I suggest getting the fastest HDD you can such as a WD Black/Velociraptor or a Seagate with a 128MB cache.

Within your monitor budget I suggest the ASUS VS239H-P or MX239H. Both are matte-finish IPS monitors, so you won't see your own reflection on the screen like you would on a glossy monitor, which for me completely takes me out of the immersion in games. For a glossy screen you'd need to jack up the brightness, and even then you might still see yourself. The VS239H-P uses e-IPS, which is a less expensive, entry level IPS panel, while the MX239H uses the higher quality AH-IPS.
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July 31, 2013 6:55:47 AM

MichaelBayTime said:
Okay since I did some research yesterday I found out and SSD only increases FPS by a very very miniscule amount and that the only thing it's good for is loading programmes faster which to be honest I don't really care about. I am a patient person I don't care about waiting another 10 seconds for something to load if itis gonna cost me another $150. So in turn I have come up with this build.

Case: NZXT Phantom 630
CPU: i5 4670k
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4gb)
Optical Drive: LG CH12LS28
PSU: Antec HCP-750
Video Card: ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II OC

Now for the monitor guys, I leave up to you because I don't have a clue.
It has to be atleast 21.5", Have IPS, (what you guys where talking about before) and be under $275

Thanks and tell me what you think


I think we can find you an IPS monitor for $275 or less, prob 23".
Don't be concerned about a slower response time than tn panels, cuzz
there's no noticeable diff and unles these times a confirmed with a lab review
you can't believe em anyway. Mktng hype.

So anyway, here's some with high user satisfaction ratings:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $218

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $228

those are 23" - going to 24" is a big price jump, but here's a couple:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $240

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $248

These are all IPS panels with good/very good user satisfaction feedback


21.5" will most likely be 1680x1050 res, the 23's should all be 1920x1080 res
The 2 - 24's linked are 1920x1200res which is not a prob with your GPU.




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July 31, 2013 3:40:52 PM

toyftw said:
MichaelBayTime said:
Okay since I did some research yesterday I found out and SSD only increases FPS by a very very miniscule amount and that the only thing it's good for is loading programmes faster which to be honest I don't really care about. I am a patient person I don't care about waiting another 10 seconds for something to load if itis gonna cost me another $150. So in turn I have come up with this build.

Case: NZXT Phantom 630
CPU: i5 4670k
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4gb)
Optical Drive: LG CH12LS28
PSU: Antec HCP-750
Video Card: ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II OC

Now for the monitor guys, I leave up to you because I don't have a clue.
It has to be atleast 21.5", Have IPS, (what you guys where talking about before) and be under $275

Thanks and tell me what you think


I think we can find you an IPS monitor for $275 or less, prob 23".
Don't be concerned about a slower response time than tn panels, cuzz
there's no noticeable diff and unles these times a confirmed with a lab review
you can't believe em anyway. Mktng hype.

So anyway, here's some with high user satisfaction ratings:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $218

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $228

those are 23" - going to 24" is a big price jump, but here's a couple:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $240

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $248

These are all IPS panels with good/very good user satisfaction feedback


21.5" will most likely be 1680x1050 res, the 23's should all be 1920x1080 res
The 2 - 24's linked are 1920x1200res which is not a prob with your GPU.






Thanks man they are really good. Especially the second one.
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July 31, 2013 3:56:22 PM

MichaelBayTime said:
toyftw said:
MichaelBayTime said:
Okay since I did some research yesterday I found out and SSD only increases FPS by a very very miniscule amount and that the only thing it's good for is loading programmes faster which to be honest I don't really care about. I am a patient person I don't care about waiting another 10 seconds for something to load if itis gonna cost me another $150. So in turn I have come up with this build.

Case: NZXT Phantom 630
CPU: i5 4670k
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X40
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2x4gb)
Optical Drive: LG CH12LS28
PSU: Antec HCP-750
Video Card: ASUS GTX 780 DirectCU II OC

Now for the monitor guys, I leave up to you because I don't have a clue.
It has to be atleast 21.5", Have IPS, (what you guys where talking about before) and be under $275

Thanks and tell me what you think


I think we can find you an IPS monitor for $275 or less, prob 23".
Don't be concerned about a slower response time than tn panels, cuzz
there's no noticeable diff and unles these times a confirmed with a lab review
you can't believe em anyway. Mktng hype.

So anyway, here's some with high user satisfaction ratings:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $218

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $228

those are 23" - going to 24" is a big price jump, but here's a couple:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $240

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nets to $248

These are all IPS panels with good/very good user satisfaction feedback


21.5" will most likely be 1680x1050 res, the 23's should all be 1920x1080 res
The 2 - 24's linked are 1920x1200res which is not a prob with your GPU.






Thanks man they are really good. Especially the second one.


Agreed - don't know how good the built in speakers are, tho.

But, with all 21 users (with feedback) rating it above average, it looks like
a solid choice.
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