770 or 760? and watercooling help
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xHiZoR9
July 29, 2013 1:02:49 PM
LeMonarque
July 29, 2013 1:09:15 PM
xHiZoR9
July 29, 2013 1:12:35 PM
LeMonarque said:
What resolution and what refresh rate are you gaming at? Refresh rate is one of the most overlooked things when it comes to choosing a GPU.1920x1080 might add another monitor later on in a half a year or 2 but i might get better gpu by then but yeah i have the Samsung - SyncMaster SA300 Series 23" LED Monitor - S23A300B i think it is 60 hz but im not sure i tried looking for it before but couldnt come with up with anything
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geofelt
July 29, 2013 1:18:20 PM
The only reason for watercooling is to be able to overclock a bit higher.
My suggestion is to save the watercooling dollars and buy a stronger graphics card in the first place.
A superclocked GTX760 would run most games very well on 1080P.
And... I like the direct exhaust blower type coolers on the reference cards better. They get heat directly out the back of the case.
That lowers both cpu and gpu cooling requirements.
My suggestion is to save the watercooling dollars and buy a stronger graphics card in the first place.
A superclocked GTX760 would run most games very well on 1080P.
And... I like the direct exhaust blower type coolers on the reference cards better. They get heat directly out the back of the case.
That lowers both cpu and gpu cooling requirements.
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oczdude8
July 29, 2013 1:20:24 PM
770 is a very capable gpu and it provides great "bang for your buck" if you are actually going to be making use of its full abilities(playing games like bf3, crisis, video editing etc) . if you are just going to play something like league of legends (lol) just get a 760 (if not something lower).
Also, the 770 waterblock will fit the 760. To use a waterblock, you need a reference design. Most brands have reference design PCB's but those gpus like OC version or twin frozr(msi) version are most definitely non-reference, so avoid those.
Also, the 770 waterblock will fit the 760. To use a waterblock, you need a reference design. Most brands have reference design PCB's but those gpus like OC version or twin frozr(msi) version are most definitely non-reference, so avoid those.
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LeMonarque
July 29, 2013 1:24:32 PM
For 1080p 60Hz gaming the GTX 760 is a very good option. You could get a 770..but keep in mind both cards will generate more than 60 fps in most of today's games at 1080p (except for Crysis 3). When that happens, you'll get screen tearing. To solve screen tearing, you enable vsync, which caps your framerate to your monitor's refresh rate.
So the question becomes:
How much do you spend for 60fps performance? You'll certainly get that kind of performance with a 770 or a 760. But do you really need the extra horsepower of a 770 if all you're going to do is limit it to 60 fps? I would save the $200 and buy a 760. There's always Crysis 3 bugging you on the side, but I hardly think that one game is worth an extra $200. Just turn down the AA
So the question becomes:
How much do you spend for 60fps performance? You'll certainly get that kind of performance with a 770 or a 760. But do you really need the extra horsepower of a 770 if all you're going to do is limit it to 60 fps? I would save the $200 and buy a 760. There's always Crysis 3 bugging you on the side, but I hardly think that one game is worth an extra $200. Just turn down the AA
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xHiZoR9
July 29, 2013 1:33:06 PM
LeMonarque said:
For 1080p 60Hz gaming the GTX 760 is a very good option. You could get a 770..but keep in mind both cards will generate more than 60 fps in most of today's games at 1080p (except for Crysis 3). When that happens, you'll get screen tearing. To solve screen tearing, you enable vsync, which caps your framerate to your monitor's refresh rate.So the question becomes:
How much do you spend for 60fps performance? You'll certainly get that kind of performance with a 770 or a 760. But do you really need the extra horsepower of a 770 if all you're going to do is limit it to 60 fps? I would save the $200 and buy a 760. There's always Crysis 3 bugging you on the side, but I hardly think that one game is worth an extra $200. Just turn down the AA
well i what i was planning would take about half a year lol. i was going to upgrade my psu, get a card, save for another to sli or use the money from the sli and water cool. or water cool after sli. so 760 would be a good choice if i decide to sli in the future? i really do want to water cool. it seems fun and a good experience well at least to me lol and i do want to overclock. at the moment im just running stock cooler for my i5-4670k and use the integrated graphics. then save for a psu and vga then save for watercooling then i will start to oc. that is what my aim is for
i do want to play either bf4 or cod ghosts or perhaps both. im playing black ops 2 atm so yeah lol i hope the 760 can run bf4 and cod ghosts.
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Diamond-HP
July 29, 2013 1:35:38 PM
xHiZoR9 said:
i cant decide between these 2 cards. is the 770 worth 400 bucks? is there a waterblock for the 760? i cant find any online and would i have to buy a reference card to add a water block? or are the msi, evga etc use the same pcb design as it?
This question really depends on your budget, tbh as the others have said for a standard 1080p set up you'll be hard pressed to find a game the GTX 760 can't max out so it really depends on your eagerness to play Max settings on every game out there.
If you do then pay the extra however me personally I'd struggle to warrant paying that money, I'd choose the 760 and keep the cash.
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oczdude8
July 29, 2013 1:36:38 PM
xHiZoR9
July 29, 2013 1:41:14 PM
Diamond-HP said:
xHiZoR9 said:
i cant decide between these 2 cards. is the 770 worth 400 bucks? is there a waterblock for the 760? i cant find any online and would i have to buy a reference card to add a water block? or are the msi, evga etc use the same pcb design as it?
This question really depends on your budget, tbh as the others have said for a standard 1080p set up you'll be hard pressed to find a game the GTX 760 can't max out so it really depends on your eagerness to play Max settings on every game out there.
If you do then pay the extra however me personally I'd struggle to warrant paying that money, I'd choose the 760 and keep the cash.
thats true i guess and i guess i can always buy another 760 if needed to boost the power right?
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LeMonarque
July 29, 2013 1:44:48 PM
Yep! Just make sure that your PSU is up to the task right now even though you're only getting 1 card to start. Two 760s outperforms a Titan... Dual SLI 760s would be 100% in the clear with a 750W PSU. You probably wouldn't even need 750W, but I don't know enough to say what that is...but a 750W is good haha
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xHiZoR9
July 29, 2013 1:46:45 PM
LeMonarque said:
Yep! Just make sure that your PSU is up to the task right now even though you're only getting 1 card to start. Two 760s outperforms a Titan... Dual SLI 760s would be 100% in the clear with a 750W PSU. You probably wouldn't even need 750W, but I don't know enough to say what that is...but a 750W is good hahai was going to get a 850 modular psu just to be safe because i want to add lights, watercooling and yeah basically that. although i dont know if that uses a lot
edit: i read to be safe 700-800 should be enough so if i add watercooling, lights, and oc will that still be enough?
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Diamond-HP
July 29, 2013 1:49:21 PM
xHiZoR9 said:
i was going to get a 850 modular psu just to be safe because i want to add lights, watercooling and yeah basically that. although i dont know if that uses a lot
Always play safe with the power supply as long as its not screwing with your budget then get the wattage head room, it makes for a good investment as you said, if you increase the components in your system you're still good to go.
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xHiZoR9
July 29, 2013 1:52:18 PM
Diamond-HP said:
xHiZoR9 said:
i was going to get a 850 modular psu just to be safe because i want to add lights, watercooling and yeah basically that. although i dont know if that uses a lot
Always play safe with the power supply as long as its not screwing with your budget then get the wattage head room, it makes for a good investment as you said, if you increase the components in your system you're still good to go.
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oczdude8
July 29, 2013 2:00:11 PM
I would recommend an 850W psu, but if you have the budget, get a 1000W. Water cooling and lights don't use a lot of power. Its always best to have your psu run at 50% capacity, since all of them are designed and tested to have the best efficiency and life-expectancy at 50% load.
good psu brands are: corsair, antec, seasonic, xfx
good psu brands are: corsair, antec, seasonic, xfx
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xHiZoR9
July 29, 2013 2:06:30 PM
oczdude8 said:
I would recommend an 850W psu, but if you have the budget, get a 1000W. Water cooling and lights don't use a lot of power. Its always best to have your psu run at 50% capacity, since all of them are designed and tested to have the best efficiency and life-expectancy at 50% load.good psu brands are: corsair, antec, seasonic, xfx
i see well i think i will go for 850 just because i will be getting it first and i need to save for my gpu and watercooling. do you think the nzxt sentry lx is worth it? or a bay resevior i have a fractal midi r2 so i can only pick one or the other sadly
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oczdude8
July 29, 2013 2:17:24 PM
xHiZoR9
July 29, 2013 2:21:18 PM
oczdude8 said:
get the sentry lx , because when you do install water-cooling, you would want to be able to have precise control over your fans. You can always use a standard reservoir as opposed to a bay mounted one. Plus the sentry makes you case look kinda high tech and stuff
i see i dont know how to mount them though because i have a fractal design midi r2 and i know where i can put them but i dont know how to make them stay there like fasten them there. any reccomendations on a pump resevior and how to mount them?
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oczdude8
July 29, 2013 6:48:23 PM
you can get something simple like this:http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcres-micro.html.
It comes with brackets that let you essential mount it to any screw hole you can find, but what most people do is attach it to the side of the 5.25in racks (if there is space) with 2 simple zipties. zipties can be your best friend if you learn to use them properly especially during watercooling and cableing
It comes with brackets that let you essential mount it to any screw hole you can find, but what most people do is attach it to the side of the 5.25in racks (if there is space) with 2 simple zipties. zipties can be your best friend if you learn to use them properly especially during watercooling and cableing
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xHiZoR9
July 29, 2013 8:00:49 PM
oczdude8 said:
you can get something simple like this:http://www.xoxide.com/swiftech-mcres-micro.html.It comes with brackets that let you essential mount it to any screw hole you can find, but what most people do is attach it to the side of the 5.25in racks (if there is space) with 2 simple zipties. zipties can be your best friend if you learn to use them properly especially during watercooling and cableing
wait so there is only one screw hole for it? my case, r2 midi, has a 5 hdd cage and a 3 hdd cage. i was thinking of removing the 5hdd cage and maybe hav the resevoir sit on that but i still dont know how i will do that. i like the one you posted though its simple. can you add a fill and drain port to it? or if you cant, how do you add it to the system?
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oczdude8
July 30, 2013 6:41:13 AM
if you look at the reservoir, there is a chrome screw thing on both the top and the bottom. The top one is for filling and the bottom one is for draining. In terms of screwing it, you can use only 1, or more depending on how much your going to be moving your case around. If your never going to move your case, one is enough. with water-cooling, you have to get creative. If the brackets don't work for your case, you can make a trip to your local hardware store, and purchase some brackets and securing hardware from there. If you are not a very handy person, I strongly recommended against water-cooling, as it will take a lot of time and can damage your other components if not properly installed.
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xHiZoR9
July 30, 2013 9:56:02 AM
oczdude8 said:
if you look at the reservoir, there is a chrome screw thing on both the top and the bottom. The top one is for filling and the bottom one is for draining. In terms of screwing it, you can use only 1, or more depending on how much your going to be moving your case around. If your never going to move your case, one is enough. with water-cooling, you have to get creative. If the brackets don't work for your case, you can make a trip to your local hardware store, and purchase some brackets and securing hardware from there. If you are not a very handy person, I strongly recommended against water-cooling, as it will take a lot of time and can damage your other components if not properly installed.i see awesome! im a ahndy person i guess i like to work with my hands. its fun for me. if i use zipties to hold it in place will that work if i have to move the case?
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oczdude8
July 30, 2013 10:23:05 AM
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