anyways, I recently "upgraded" from a nvidia gtx 560ti to a radeon 7870 his iceq edition. I was expecting little to no performance upgrade, but I was planning to swap the 4850 in my little sisters rig for the newer and faster 560ti. my other reasoning for buying the radeon 7870 is it looked cool and matched (or stood out) from my black red and blue rig. It was also because it was on sale for 199$ and why the f@#! not. anyways, the weirdest thing happened. all my games that I normally play saw massive 60-100fps performance increases, even though they are running the same rez and graphics settings. I was so confused, I underclocked the card from its modest gpu boost and everything. also, the fan is quite and I rarely see temperature over 28c! even at full load! did I luck out and get a nice card, or is the 7870iceq really that good. I have been running planetside 2 at 150fps maxed out settings with fraps and a few other backround programs. just to be sure its not just my lga 2011 i7 3820 working its magic, I pulled the card out and ran it in my i5 2500k rig with similar performance (90-100fps in large battle sequences compared to 50-60 from the 560ti)