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July 29, 2013 5:23:32 PM

I need a 1 slot video card to fit my mini-ITX case. It has no room for a 2 slot one.

I've found these 2 which are GDDR5 but I don't know which one is better.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This one is also an option. But not sure if it's much worse than the other 2 since its DDR3. It does have 2 GB instead of 1 GB though like the other ones I mentioned.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Can any expert tell me which will perform best and if there are better 1 slot cards around the same price out there?
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July 29, 2013 5:35:13 PM

The PowerColor 7770 is the most powerful card, but you'll notice that the cooler is actually two slots wide. It's just the I/O bracket that is only one slot wide. So that depends on whether there is room for the wider cooler.

If not, you'll have to take one of the others. And the XFX 7750 is faster than the PowerColor 7750 because of the faster GDDR5. The difference between 1 GB and 2 GB doesn't matter for budget cards like these.
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July 29, 2013 5:39:11 PM

The first two cards you linked are identical; price wise, model, etc. Is there a difference or a different card that didn't get linked?
The cards you are looking at will perform very close to one another: probably wouldn't see more then 1-3 frames/sec. diff. The XFX cards are clocked a little higher on the memory.
The difference will be dependent on your monitor or TV. The Power Color with the 2GB video RAM buffer will be able to provide better frame rates on, say, a 27-30 inch. monitor (Look at its max resolution). This is going to be important if you are gaming or streaming media to that monitor or TV.
I wouldn't worry to much about GDDR5 vs. GDDR3; don't think you would ever see a difference.
Here is a link to XFX 7750, it states that its MAX resolution is 2560x1600.
http://products.xfxforce.com/en-us/Graphics_Cards/AMD_R...
Max resolution of the Power Color (Using HDMI) is 4096x2160.
http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_features.asp?...
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July 29, 2013 5:42:17 PM

Sakkura said:
The PowerColor 7770 is the most powerful card, but you'll notice that the cooler is actually two slots wide. It's just the I/O bracket that is only one slot wide. So that depends on whether there is room for the wider cooler.

If not, you'll have to take one of the others. And the XFX 7750 is faster than the PowerColor 7750 because of the faster GDDR5. The difference between 1 GB and 2 GB doesn't matter for budget cards like these.


Check out the picture on the Newegg site; it is a single slot card, cooler and all, according to the pix.
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July 29, 2013 5:43:57 PM

Sakkura said:
The PowerColor 7770 is the most powerful card, but you'll notice that the cooler is actually two slots wide. It's just the I/O bracket that is only one slot wide. So that depends on whether there is room for the wider cooler.

If not, you'll have to take one of the others. And the XFX 7750 is faster than the PowerColor 7750 because of the faster GDDR5. The difference between 1 GB and 2 GB doesn't matter for budget cards like these.


Not actually sure if the case has room for the 7770. Do you happen to know?

This is the case I'm using

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

How much better is the 7770 going to be compared to the powercolor 7750?
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July 29, 2013 5:45:15 PM

nostall said:
Sakkura said:
The PowerColor 7770 is the most powerful card, but you'll notice that the cooler is actually two slots wide. It's just the I/O bracket that is only one slot wide. So that depends on whether there is room for the wider cooler.

If not, you'll have to take one of the others. And the XFX 7750 is faster than the PowerColor 7750 because of the faster GDDR5. The difference between 1 GB and 2 GB doesn't matter for budget cards like these.


Check out the picture on the Newegg site; it is a single slot card, cooler and all, according to the pix.


I think what he means is that the cooler sticks out.

BTW do you guys know any other 1 slot video card that could perform better than the ones I found?
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July 29, 2013 5:48:03 PM

nostall said:
Sakkura said:
The PowerColor 7770 is the most powerful card, but you'll notice that the cooler is actually two slots wide. It's just the I/O bracket that is only one slot wide. So that depends on whether there is room for the wider cooler.

If not, you'll have to take one of the others. And the XFX 7750 is faster than the PowerColor 7750 because of the faster GDDR5. The difference between 1 GB and 2 GB doesn't matter for budget cards like these.


Check out the picture on the Newegg site; it is a single slot card, cooler and all, according to the pix.

No, this is how it looks:



Clearly the cooler extends above the I/O bracket, making it a dual-slot cooler.

Edit: Actually that's a slightly different model. But the only visible difference is the VGA connector.
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July 29, 2013 5:52:31 PM

Sakkura said:
nostall said:
Sakkura said:
The PowerColor 7770 is the most powerful card, but you'll notice that the cooler is actually two slots wide. It's just the I/O bracket that is only one slot wide. So that depends on whether there is room for the wider cooler.

If not, you'll have to take one of the others. And the XFX 7750 is faster than the PowerColor 7750 because of the faster GDDR5. The difference between 1 GB and 2 GB doesn't matter for budget cards like these.


Check out the picture on the Newegg site; it is a single slot card, cooler and all, according to the pix.

No, this is how it looks:



Clearly the cooler extends above the I/O bracket, making it a dual-slot cooler.

Edit: Actually that's a slightly different model. But the only visible difference is the VGA connector.


Sorry, look at my first sentence in the first post. When I clicked on those first two links they brought up the same card. Now they don't, the 7770 is there. You are right, the 7770 is more powerful, and is a two-slot card with that big cooler on it.
Between the 7750's, I would think that the decision should depend on the monitor/TV size because of the memory buffer.
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July 29, 2013 5:55:15 PM

nostall said:
Sakkura said:
nostall said:
Sakkura said:
The PowerColor 7770 is the most powerful card, but you'll notice that the cooler is actually two slots wide. It's just the I/O bracket that is only one slot wide. So that depends on whether there is room for the wider cooler.

If not, you'll have to take one of the others. And the XFX 7750 is faster than the PowerColor 7750 because of the faster GDDR5. The difference between 1 GB and 2 GB doesn't matter for budget cards like these.


Check out the picture on the Newegg site; it is a single slot card, cooler and all, according to the pix.

No, this is how it looks:



Clearly the cooler extends above the I/O bracket, making it a dual-slot cooler.

Edit: Actually that's a slightly different model. But the only visible difference is the VGA connector.


Sorry, look at my first sentence in the first post. When I clicked on those first two links they brought up the same card. Now they don't, the 7770 is there. You are right, the 7770 is more powerful, and is a two-slot card with that big cooler on it.
Between the 7750's, I would think that the decision should depend on the monitor/TV size because of the memory buffer.


I think all I need is for the bracket to take only 1 slot. 90% sure the case will be able to fit it if the fan is sticking out a bit. Are there any better 1 bracket cards?
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July 29, 2013 6:11:59 PM

I can't find any better cards with a single-slot bracket available in the US. There is a single-slot 7850 from AFOX, but I can only find it for sale at Amazon UK.
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July 29, 2013 6:17:49 PM

Sakkura said:
I can't find any better cards with a single-slot bracket available in the US. There is a single-slot 7850 from AFOX, but I can only find it for sale at Amazon UK.


Hmm I looked at benchmarks of 7750 compared to 7770 and there seemed to be about a 10% difference in fps across the board. Would it be more since the 7750 is DDR3 and the 7770 is GDDR5?

I actually bought the powercolor 7750 today and it would be a hassle to return it and I'm not sure if it's worth it
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July 29, 2013 6:26:56 PM

The difference between a regular 7750 and 7770 should be something on the order of 30%. With DDR3 on the 7750, that gap would only grow.
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July 29, 2013 6:28:30 PM

Sakkura said:
The difference between a regular 7750 and 7770 should be something on the order of 30%. With DDR3 on the 7750, that gap would only grow.


What if I'm running 1920x1080 resolution. Should I still get the 1 GB 7770 card? I feel like 1 GB won't be enough for much in 1-2 years.
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July 29, 2013 6:37:29 PM

Well... a 7750 won't last long at that resolution either, regardless of whether it has 2 GB or 200 GB memory. To me, the 2 GB version is just a gimmick, because in practically all instances the GPU will already dictate slideshow framerates once you get to the point where more than 1 GB is needed.
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July 29, 2013 6:50:31 PM

Okay i'll get the 7770 then. Thanks so much for your help.
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July 29, 2013 7:38:27 PM

You're welcome. :) 
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