Hi Guys,
I think i am starting to drive myself crazy here as i have been researching this for 3 days now and i think i am getting even more confused as i check new information.
I have my mind set on this case and will order it directly from Corsair later today as i live in Europe and retailers here don't have it yet, it happens that Corsair is running an offer for $30 off this case if you order fans with it, the fans available for ordering with this case are:
- 2X AF120 Performance Edition / Quiet Edition
- 2X SP120 Performance Edition / Quiet Edition
- 2X SP120 PWM Performance Edition / Quiet Edition
- AF140
My goal is to have as silent as possible system in idle (watching movies, Youtube, text editing or just totally idle) which is how the system is 90% of the time, and maximum cooling performance regardless of noise level in high workloads for my GPU/CPU/RAM.
- I have the EVGA GTX 780 SC with ACX cooler which is an open cooler and dumps massive heat inside the case
- i5 4670K with the Hyper 212 Evo running in push only with its single stock fan
- G.Skill TridentX 2400Mhz CL10 RAM which would also use some cooling as they are high performance and i assume they would heat up if not cooled properly.
- Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
- I do not intend to water cool currently so all my fan mounting locations are unoccupied.
This case comes with 3 low RPM AF140L 3-pins voltage fans that would run at 100% all the time when plugged into the motherboard and i would like to better this situation using the Corsair fans offer which is making me very confused, Now there are few points which i need your opinion on:
1) Would getting SP fans better than AF fans? since i will be using these separately bought fans as front intakes and as i understand since they have to pull air through the front filter they need to be SP fans?
2) SP120s high performance fans would provide better air flow that the two included 140s low RPM AF fans?
3) Should i get high performance 2350RPM fans or quite 1450RPM ones?
4) Should i get the PWM version or the Voltage controlled version with the resistor to slow them down when needed?
Now this fourth point is the one i am most confused about, I know that i have few ways to deal with fans, either use uncontrolled fans and get the specs i want out of the box running at 100% or control them with resistors which are unfavorable methods to my understanding, the more advanced ways is to buy a dedicated fan controller like some of you guys have done here or best of all worlds is get PWM fans and have the motherboard control them automatically.
Also should i get high performance noisy fans if they are PWM controlled anyways and slow them down through the PWM profiles in idle? or get quite fans that its RPM IS already capped out of the box in case PWM control in the motherboard is not good enough i will get quite fans anyways at the cost of much less performance under load?
Now this motherboard has three 4-pins speed controlled fan headers but the big problem is that they control the fan speed based on the system temperature sensor and not the CPU/GPU sensors, also the fan control formulas are strange and i could not understand them,
Below i will post information from my motherboard manual as well as the pin assignment of the headers and leave it to you guys to kindly guide me in the right direction.
My plan is to use two SP120 high performance fans as front intakes which run at a max of 2350 RPM at full speed (TOO NOISY) and control their speed automatically via the motherboard's BIOS PWM fan control features or at least digitally slow them down, two of the three AF140L that come with this case as one rare exhaust and one top exhaust or use only the one rare exhaust and keep the other two as spare parts to replace it when it wears out which i suspect would happen rather quickly as it would be running on 100% speed 24/7, the idea being that the two front intakes would slow down and become silent when the system is idle and spin to provide good air flow when the system is under heavy workloads like gaming or rendering or such...
Some people with 7 series Gigabyte motherboards say that the fan control feature of their boards sucks as being tied to system temperature instead of CPU/GPU temperatures make them NOT change speed as they claim that system temperature sensor still provides low reading even when the GPU/CPU are in full load and heat up. i have not found any reports on the 8 series boards to date so i have no idea if things got improved.
I am really confused as what type of fans to order with the case and how to set them up to achieve my goal of low noise in idle and high performance in heavy workloads while having all of this on automatic control.
Here are my motherboard information from the manual:
What do you guys think are my best configuration out of all these possible components given that to get the $30 discount i have to either order a pack of two 120s or one 140
Thank you very much in advance
I think i am starting to drive myself crazy here as i have been researching this for 3 days now and i think i am getting even more confused as i check new information.
I have my mind set on this case and will order it directly from Corsair later today as i live in Europe and retailers here don't have it yet, it happens that Corsair is running an offer for $30 off this case if you order fans with it, the fans available for ordering with this case are:
- 2X AF120 Performance Edition / Quiet Edition
- 2X SP120 Performance Edition / Quiet Edition
- 2X SP120 PWM Performance Edition / Quiet Edition
- AF140
My goal is to have as silent as possible system in idle (watching movies, Youtube, text editing or just totally idle) which is how the system is 90% of the time, and maximum cooling performance regardless of noise level in high workloads for my GPU/CPU/RAM.
- I have the EVGA GTX 780 SC with ACX cooler which is an open cooler and dumps massive heat inside the case
- i5 4670K with the Hyper 212 Evo running in push only with its single stock fan
- G.Skill TridentX 2400Mhz CL10 RAM which would also use some cooling as they are high performance and i assume they would heat up if not cooled properly.
- Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H
- I do not intend to water cool currently so all my fan mounting locations are unoccupied.
This case comes with 3 low RPM AF140L 3-pins voltage fans that would run at 100% all the time when plugged into the motherboard and i would like to better this situation using the Corsair fans offer which is making me very confused, Now there are few points which i need your opinion on:
1) Would getting SP fans better than AF fans? since i will be using these separately bought fans as front intakes and as i understand since they have to pull air through the front filter they need to be SP fans?
2) SP120s high performance fans would provide better air flow that the two included 140s low RPM AF fans?
3) Should i get high performance 2350RPM fans or quite 1450RPM ones?
4) Should i get the PWM version or the Voltage controlled version with the resistor to slow them down when needed?
Now this fourth point is the one i am most confused about, I know that i have few ways to deal with fans, either use uncontrolled fans and get the specs i want out of the box running at 100% or control them with resistors which are unfavorable methods to my understanding, the more advanced ways is to buy a dedicated fan controller like some of you guys have done here or best of all worlds is get PWM fans and have the motherboard control them automatically.
Also should i get high performance noisy fans if they are PWM controlled anyways and slow them down through the PWM profiles in idle? or get quite fans that its RPM IS already capped out of the box in case PWM control in the motherboard is not good enough i will get quite fans anyways at the cost of much less performance under load?
Now this motherboard has three 4-pins speed controlled fan headers but the big problem is that they control the fan speed based on the system temperature sensor and not the CPU/GPU sensors, also the fan control formulas are strange and i could not understand them,
Below i will post information from my motherboard manual as well as the pin assignment of the headers and leave it to you guys to kindly guide me in the right direction.
My plan is to use two SP120 high performance fans as front intakes which run at a max of 2350 RPM at full speed (TOO NOISY) and control their speed automatically via the motherboard's BIOS PWM fan control features or at least digitally slow them down, two of the three AF140L that come with this case as one rare exhaust and one top exhaust or use only the one rare exhaust and keep the other two as spare parts to replace it when it wears out which i suspect would happen rather quickly as it would be running on 100% speed 24/7, the idea being that the two front intakes would slow down and become silent when the system is idle and spin to provide good air flow when the system is under heavy workloads like gaming or rendering or such...
Some people with 7 series Gigabyte motherboards say that the fan control feature of their boards sucks as being tied to system temperature instead of CPU/GPU temperatures make them NOT change speed as they claim that system temperature sensor still provides low reading even when the GPU/CPU are in full load and heat up. i have not found any reports on the 8 series boards to date so i have no idea if things got improved.
I am really confused as what type of fans to order with the case and how to set them up to achieve my goal of low noise in idle and high performance in heavy workloads while having all of this on automatic control.
Here are my motherboard information from the manual:
SYS_FAN1/SYS_FAN2/SYS_FAN3:
Pin No. Definition
1 GND
2 +12V /Speed Control
3 Sense
4 VCC
SYS_FAN4:
Pin No. Definition
1 GND
2 +12V
3 NC
1st System Fan Speed Control (SYS_FAN1 Connector)
Allows you to determine whether to enable the fan speed control function for the system fan connected to the SYS_FAN1 connector and adjust the fan speed.
Normal Allows the fan to run at different speeds according to the system temperature. You can adjust the fan speed with EasyTune based on your system requirements. (Default)
Silent Allows the fan to run at slow speeds.
Manual Allows you to control the fan speed under the Slope PWM item.
Disabled Allows the fan to run at full speeds.
Slope PWM
Allows you to control the fan speed. This item is configurable only when 1st System Fan Speed Control is set to Manual. Options are: 0.75 PWM value /oC ~ 2.50 PWM value /oC.
2nd/3rd System Fan Speed Control (SYS_FAN2/ SYS_FAN3 Connectors)
Allows you to determine whether to enable the fan speed control function for the system fan connected to the SYS_FAN2/SYS_FAN3 connectors and adjust the fan speed.
Normal Allows the fan to run at different speeds according to the system temperature. You can adjust the fan speed with EasyTune based on your system requirements. (Default)
Silent Allows the fan to run at slow speeds.
Manual Allows you to control the fan speed under the Slope PWM item.
Disabled Allows the fan to run at full speeds.
Slope PWM
Allows you to control the fan speed. This item is configurable only when 2nd/3rd System Fan Speed
Control is set to Manual. Options are: 0.75 PWM value /oC ~ 2.50 PWM value /oC.
What do you guys think are my best configuration out of all these possible components given that to get the $30 discount i have to either order a pack of two 120s or one 140
Thank you very much in advance