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July 31, 2013 9:25:33 AM

Hello! I am creating my first pc gaming build, and learning as I go along. So far, I have selected my CPU (i7-3770k), my GPU (Gigabyte GV-N770OC-2GD), and my motherboard (Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H-WB).

My question is, will this ram, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... work with my motherboard? It has a very low latency, is Corsair, and has the 8gb I need (I originally was going to go for 16gb, but it's more expensive and a bit overkill).

I checked Gigabyte's compatability list for my chosen motherboard, and the specific model was not listed. I'd rather not deal with returning the ram if it's incompatible, so I thought I'd ask you guys!

If you guys think other ram would be better suited, then please, go ahead and recommend them.

Thanks!:) 
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July 31, 2013 10:24:42 AM

Hello,:hello: 

Yes, the memory is compatible with your motherboard and it will run fine. QVL does not contain all the memory modules, the manufacturers test with whatever memory that is available and moreover none has the time to test all the memory that is available in the market with a single motherboard.

Try the following links I think you would like 'em as the price is on the lower side and the speed is much better than the one you have listed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or if you need normal memory then try this one - Click here!!

Good luck!!
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July 31, 2013 1:00:23 PM

Any other opinions or recommendations?
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July 31, 2013 1:09:33 PM

Well mate... i see you gone for a K series proc , dose that mean your gonna OC ? cause if you OC and you want a high performance air cooler you are going to have clearance issues with those ram sticks.
Chose your cooler first.
Also i would go with these sticks witch will offer more performance and have a better clearance, low enough to work with a Noctua NH-D14 witch is one of the best air coolers on the market.
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July 31, 2013 1:17:57 PM

Those are a strong set, as to a cooler look at the Hyper 212 EVO ( matches to a H100 liquid and is only $35) with adjustable fan height, and no problems
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July 31, 2013 3:19:23 PM

Alex Leyzar said:
Well mate... i see you gone for a K series proc , dose that mean your gonna OC ? cause if you OC and you want a high performance air cooler you are going to have clearance issues with those ram sticks.
Chose your cooler first.
Also i would go with these sticks witch will offer more performance and have a better clearance, low enough to work with a Noctua NH-D14 witch is one of the best air coolers on the market.


Thanks for picking that out!
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July 31, 2013 3:24:35 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Those are a strong set, as to a cooler look at the Hyper 212 EVO ( matches to a H100 liquid and is only $35) with adjustable fan height, and no problems


By set, do you mean the ram I linked, or the ones that the second fellow suggested?

You guys brought up coolers, which is great. They were going to be about the last thing I looked into on my list, but I guess now is better. So, this $35 water cooler is considered better than the fans that were posted previously? (Apologies, I research reviews/compare when I get to a component, and I hadn't gotten to coolers/heatsinks yet.)

Thank you.:) 
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July 31, 2013 3:58:26 PM

The set you picked, which is a 1600/CL7 set, the other two sets that were suggested are higher freq but much slower CL (9) in this case - if thing a 1866 set would want a CL of 8 to match what you picked - something like the Ripjaws X

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Hyper 212 EVO is a fan/air cooler, just through in the comparison to the $110 liquid cooler to show how well it works and with the adjustable fan can work with any set of DRAM

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August 1, 2013 4:30:06 AM

Well i short 2133 / 9 are better then 1866 / 8 witch are better the 1600 / 7, the performance increases however are small.
@ Tradesman1 , am i correct ? ( he told me how ram performance should be looked at :D  )

As for the hyper 212 evo, its a well known good air cooler, however its not as near as strong as a Nh-d14 if you are willing to spend the money.
I would not recommend the sealed loop solutions by corsair or any other manufacturer at this point. After 2 weeks of research on the matter i came to the conclusion they perform just as good as high performance air coolers or slightly weaker but they cost a lot more and are more prone to issues , also apparently they don't last as long as air coolers either. The only advantage i see to the sealed loop style is the space it frees up around the socket area.
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August 1, 2013 8:26:20 AM

Alex Leyzar said:
Well i short 2133 / 9 are better then 1866 / 8 witch are better the 1600 / 7, the performance increases however are small.
@ Tradesman1 , am i correct ? ( he told me how ram performance should be looked at :D  )

As for the hyper 212 evo, its a well known good air cooler, however its not as near as strong as a Nh-d14 if you are willing to spend the money.
I would not recommend the sealed loop solutions by corsair or any other manufacturer at this point. After 2 weeks of research on the matter i came to the conclusion they perform just as good as high performance air coolers or slightly weaker but they cost a lot more and are more prone to issues , also apparently they don't last as long as air coolers either. The only advantage i see to the sealed loop style is the space it frees up around the socket area.

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+1 Correct on the DRAM - As far as Air coolers go I've matched the $35 EVO against the $110 H100 liquid and they are about equal, plus less chance of a problem w/ air
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August 1, 2013 1:34:00 PM

Ok. I agree on the liquid cooler. 10 min on newegg showed a lot of unhappiness.

Am I right to say that the NH fan is much better than the smaller one then? With the smaller one, I don't have to worry about clearance, but the bigger one I do?

I mean, is the NH vastly better? Does it (assuming that $100 is about as much as I'd spend on a fan) immediately trump the cheaper one? Which fan I pick will, obviously, affect the ram I choose.

I know OC will largely affect fan need also. I plan on doing at least some when I get around to figuring it out. Maybe more once I'm more comfortable. Thanks for helping!
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August 1, 2013 1:41:15 PM

Not sure what OC you are looking for, but the EVO on my 3570K with it at 4.7 24/7 keeps idle in low 30s and gen Max in the high 60s, roughly the same with the EVO on my 2500K which runs at 4.8 24/7....also since the fan is adjustable for height, don't have to worry about it, I've got 32GB of Ripjaws X with the 2500K and 32GB of Tridents on the 3570K
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August 1, 2013 8:56:02 PM

That seems pretty good. The i7 can only go to about 4.7ish as I remember, that might be what I go for later. Three things now.

So, Are those temps you listed good, or what is the range you are looking for with a pc?(total scrub here)

Is the only reason you don't go for something expensive like the NH the price and adjustability of the EVO?

For cooling the rest of my parts, like the GPU etc, they will be covered by the case fans, right? Or am I going to need to look into some fans to mount internally?

Anyways, thank you for the lengthy replies. Information can be found on Google, but it's so much easier to phrase your question exactly how you want and then get the information you need.
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August 1, 2013 9:05:32 PM

I like low 30s at idle max at idle...which is why the 2500K stays at 4.8 and the 3570K at 4.7, if I click them up higher idle goes up to mid/high 30s and since I run these two 24/7 I only ramp them up for demos or special projects and then only for the project.

I've tried I don't know how many coolers and keep coming back to the EVO, it cools on a par with a $110 H100 liquid cooler (have tested numerous times, and while the Noctua on my rigs may run a couple degrees cooler - don't really think it's worth an additional $50 or more dollars, plus I like the adjustable fan up front (I usually max out my rigs with DRAM (have 32GB in each, Tridents in the Z77 and Ripjaws X in the P67.

With good airflow I have seldom to almost never seen a need for additional cooling to components

and lastly, wait till you get my bill ;)  just kidding :) 
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August 2, 2013 6:01:05 AM

Well from my perspective , there is no comparison between the evo and the d14.
You can search up as many reviews as you want and see for yourself , the D14 is not a little better then the evo, its a-lot better , take note we are talking about performance under OC witch brings into play lots of other factors. You will not find that many reviews with the evo against the d14 because they are not in the same class so comparing them would not really be fair. My advice is do your own research and chose.
Take note that the d14 is a lot bigger and can cause clearance issues with some DRAM , i linked you earlier a pair of high performance ram that will fit with the d14, there are plenty out there i just find those to be the best. That being said , the D14 will outperform a evo by a big gap but again they are not in the same class. the d14 is a high performance air cooler while the evo is great low budget cooler and so the big price difference. It comes down to how much you value your proc i guess :D 
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August 2, 2013 8:32:01 AM

Difference is extremely small, Yes I've tested them head to head, and there are reviews out there, the Noctua, though I haven't found any with the EVO running a second fan - in my testing it can outperform the Noctua - here's an independent though:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6830/cpu-air-cooler-round...
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August 2, 2013 10:17:36 AM

After looking around a bit, I think I've decided to go with the Noctua, just for the better quality and I can push my cpu a little more if I want to.

Now that that's out of the way, which ram posted would be the better choice? I looked here http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=compatibility_ram_ge... and it seems that my original post isn't compatible, but both of yours are, so which one?

Thanks again.
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August 2, 2013 3:20:43 PM

If talking the Ripjaws X or the Snipers, either would work well, overall the Snipers generally have a bit more OC headroom (are a bit stronger) ;) 
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August 3, 2013 5:07:04 AM

well, i am going to give you the same recommendation as before , these i found to be the best and they work with the D14 : CORSAIR Vengeance Pro
Also here is a link to the manufactures webseit for a little more info, i like the part where they say "Built for Overclocking" :D 
Again, these will outperform the ones you chose and they also look cool, not that you will see much of them cause of the d14 :D 
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August 3, 2013 1:56:37 PM

Either of those sets should be fine, the 3770K will carry them with no problems ;) 
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August 3, 2013 3:26:56 PM

Ah again the 1.65 myths ...
There is NO ISSUE , NO DANGER , NO PROBLEM in running 1.65 v ram on ivy/haswell (if anybody says to you that they are not safe feel to take a blunt object and ......... or just rationally explained to it that they are perfectly safe, evidence is on google). Yes you can get ram with 1.5v but not at 2133 i think... You can get 1866 cl8 at 1.5 witch are just slightly slower then the 2133 cl9 @ 1.65. I would not worry to much about ram... just pick a high quality ram and you will be fine, most of them come with lifetime warranties anyway.
I know nothing of G skill so i cant recommend them to you. I am currently waiting on an answer from noctua on the Corsiar vengeance pro issue, on the compatibility page for the D14 they are marked as being fully compatible but i mailed them just to make double sure, since i am picking up that very ram with the d14.
If i where to trust G skill .... i would go with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... seems rather strange to me how the prices for g skill are so much lower tho...
Noctua compatibility page say they are ok.... on the other hand they say the corsair are ok aswell...
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August 3, 2013 5:10:27 PM

1.5 -1.55 is the suggested voltage for the CPU at stock, it also keeps the MC voltage within .6 of the DRAM voltage...so generally look for 1.5 for DRAM up through 1866, from 2133 on 1.6 or 1.65 is the accepted voltage for DRAM (if can get 1.5, even better).....however while 1.6 -1.65 is marginal at 1866, 1.6 or 1.65 is ridiculous for 1600...unless it is high performance - and by that I mean truly high performance (CL of min 8 and 7 is better), many sets are sold as 'performance' 1600 with 1.65 and have a mediocre of CL9 and even worse CL10 or CL11, to require 1.65 for sticks like this is generally indicative of weak ICs (memory chips) or simply poorly binned chips - i.e. no testing to break apart good from bad in order to cut cost, in which event you might get a great set or a really crappy set
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August 3, 2013 5:31:14 PM

Ok. How much mhz is needed/recommended for different levels of overclocking on ram? How much is needed for gaming? Thank you.
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August 3, 2013 5:49:42 PM

For strictly gaming 1600/1866 is sufficient, higher freqs primarily benefit those that push their systems, multi-task, use large data sets, memory centric apps (imaging, video, CAD, GIS, etc), run VMs, etc
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August 4, 2013 4:53:23 PM

RJ X will be fine, it's a good set of sticks, you'll be pleased ;) 
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August 4, 2013 7:29:53 PM

Thank you for all of you guys' help, I appreciate it.
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August 4, 2013 8:09:34 PM

Let us know how this turns out ;)  We've got an investment in it too ;) 
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