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New build: REVISED. Opinions on this strictly gaming rig please

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July 31, 2013 10:53:19 AM

Case: Rosewill THOR V2

PSU: SeaSonic 650-Watt 80 PLUS GOLD

Motherboard: AS Rock LGA1155 Z77 EXTREME4

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K

Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16 GB (4 x 4 GB) DDR3
1600 MHz

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 760 2GB

HDD: WD Blue 1 TB

SSD: Crucial m4 64GB

Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65

Keyboard: Corsair K70

OS: Windows 7 Home


Any weak points or problems here? Just shooting for a solid/complimentary setup for ~$1,200

These parts are ordered, so I hope this is a good combo.

Haven't built a PC in 8 years and I seem to be second guessing everything, looking for a little peace of mind.

ALSO: I plan to add another GTX 760 in SLI later on and am finding mixed answers regarding my PSU.
Most people seem to think 750w+ is required, yet I find other threads suggesting 550w is sufficient. Anyone care to lend their opinion on this matter? Please?

Thanks in advance!

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July 31, 2013 11:06:39 AM

My random thoughts:

4x4 RAM is overkill for strictly gaming, but that's not a problem per se, just a bit extra $-wise.

Why did you build on Ivy Bridge even though Haswell's out already?

760 is good, but you probably could have fit a 770 into the budget.

That SSD is truly tiny, and would be better suited as a cache drive than primary partition.

The PSU thing: a good brand 550/650 would be enough, without much headroom, though. A bad brand 750 would be "okay". Seasonic is an excellent brand, and you should be fine SLIing in the future if you desire.
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July 31, 2013 11:22:20 AM

With a single GTX 760, nVidia recommends a 500 watt PSU. The card itself can draw 170 watts, for a purely hypothetical 670 watts for two cards. Unfortunately, my go to PSU calculator (Newegg's) hasn't been updated for the GTX 7XX series.

Personally, I would go with the 750 watt PSU, mostly because I like to have a little extra headroom. Other than that, everything looks good.

If you are saving a few bucks by going Ivy Bridge as opposed to Haswell, go for it. You aren't giving up much, unless you really need six SATA III ports that are chipset controlled.

As above, just use the SSD as a cache for Intel Smart Response. It will be much easier than herding installers away from your precious SSD space. I had 16GB of 1866Mhz RAM in my last build. No game made use of it, but I was sure nice to be able to open 150 tabs of Chrome, while watching a movie, while writing a research paper.

Good luck with your build!
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July 31, 2013 11:30:02 AM


Estix said:
My random thoughts:

4x4 RAM is overkill for strictly gaming, but that's not a problem per se, just a bit extra $-wise.

Why did you build on Ivy Bridge even though Haswell's out already?

760 is good, but you probably could have fit a 770 into the budget.

That SSD is truly tiny, and would be better suited as a cache drive than primary partition.


Thank you for those random thoughts, that's what I was looking for.
I ordered 8Gb ram but recieved 16Gb....so that's the reasoning on that lol

How much am I missing out on with Haswell? Enough to return the 3570k? I guess I got too excited and just placed my order a little too quickly...

The small SSD was for budget reasons, and will be OS dedicated.

I chose the gtx 760 over the 770 for budget as well, also because I do plan run in SLI eventually and to my small brain a pair of 760s seemed like good bang for the buck.
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July 31, 2013 11:36:24 AM

TechLogic said:

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Thank you for those random thoughts, that's what I was looking for.
I ordered 8Gb ram but recieved 16Gb....so that's the reasoning on that lol

How much am I missing out on with Haswell? Enough to return the 3570k? I guess I got too excited and just placed my order a little too quickly...

The small SSD was for budget reasons, and will be OS dedicated.

I chose the gtx 760 over the 770 for budget as well, also because I do plan run in SLI eventually and to my small brain a pair of 760s seemed like good bang for the buck.


Ignore my possibly-poor demeanor today; there's nothing at all "wrong" with the build.

I'd only call Ivy Bridge inferior to Haswell if you payed the same price, if you saved $15 or $20, you did fine.

Free RAM is always a good thing.

You may find that SSD too constricting, and if you do, then, as suggested, look into using it as a cache drive rather than dedicated.

And 2x760s is a very good value and performance.
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July 31, 2013 12:28:21 PM

I wouldn't say your demeanor is poor, I am just fairly ignorant on modern components.

PSU:
Is there not a way to stabalize voltage in your system? I mean, ways to tune/tweak voltage into stability. I will upgrade PSU if I have to but I always hear about "headroom". Does voltage spike occasionally, or whats the deal here? I assume its bad to run a PSU a near 100% under load over time....

SSD:
Would it make sense to have a 3 drive setup? Say, IE: 120Gb SSD (for games), 64Gb SSD (for boot(assuming 64 is enough)), and the 1Tb HDD for bulk storage.
This seems to be the only way I can justify keeping the 64Gb drive in the system.
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July 31, 2013 12:56:25 PM

TechLogic said:
I wouldn't say your demeanor is poor, I am just fairly ignorant on modern components.

PSU:
Is there not a way to stabalize voltage in your system? I mean, ways to tune/tweak voltage into stability. I will upgrade PSU if I have to but I always hear about "headroom". Does voltage spike occasionally, or whats the deal here? I assume its bad to run a PSU a near 100% under load over time....

SSD:
Would it make sense to have a 3 drive setup? Say, IE: 120Gb SSD (for games), 64Gb SSD (for boot(assuming 64 is enough)), and the 1Tb HDD for bulk storage.
This seems to be the only way I can justify keeping the 64Gb drive in the system.


"Headroom" is a reference to how much you can overclock componenets, or how many components you can safely add to the system. The voltage will be quite stable.

You could have three drives if you wanted, sure, but really, that's all up to you. Does it feel "fast enough"? Is it awkward to work with multiple drives?
Basically, if you like the setup, there's no need to change it.
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