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July 31, 2013 7:25:18 PM

So I know haswell isnt what it was cracked up to be and many say it is not worth it and to stick with Ivy bridge.

My question is though, if I am building a brand new computer - as in I do not have an ivy or an MB that supports an Ivy bridge - am I better of just going with the Haswell and an MB with the new socket type?

I understand there isnt a vast improvement over Ivy with the Haswell, and I know the 3570K is the "best bang for you buck" CPU for gaming (least for intel), but should I just go ahead and upgrade to the next gen if I do not have an ivy bridge to start with?

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July 31, 2013 7:30:17 PM

I wouldnt, haswell is an unmatured cpu and runs too hot for my liking. I would get a bargain ivy bridge , or even sandy bridge and hope to get 6 or 7
years out of it. If you have a S/B, your wasting your money.
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July 31, 2013 8:24:04 PM

Think the 3570K would be best bet, price and performance wise, Haswell would be better - IF YOU GET A GOOD CPU, the 3570Ks are pretty well proven and cost less
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July 31, 2013 8:27:33 PM

Dont opt for a haswell over ivy
Reasons
1. Only 5-10% marginal increase in haswell from ivy
2.haswell produces more heat than 6 core sandy bridge e processors so ivy cpu would b better overclocker
3.there is no news that the 1150 socket would support further generation processors


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July 31, 2013 8:46:06 PM

If you already had sandy bridge, there would be little point in upgrading to haswell.
At stock speeds, 4670K will be faster than stock 3570K. It will run cooler and better.
But, you buy a "K" to be able to overclock. At conservative overclocks, say in the 4.0 to 4.3 range they will be comparable.
If you are trying for record overclocks, without exotic LN2 cooling or such, your results will be determined by your luck in getting a golden chip.
Haswell only gets hot at higher voltages.
If you are simply a user or gamer, then a conservative oc of either will suit you. My perception, having used both, is that haswell is quicker.
There is some advantage to the Z87 chipset used in haswell over the Z77 used in sandy bridge.

Yes, socket 1150 will be compatible with the next haswell die shrink. It is unknown if one would benefit from changing.

Bottom line.........................Haswell
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July 31, 2013 8:50:18 PM

As far as the next line of CPUs/die shrink...the current mobos will be outdated, DDR4 is coming out soon, and Broadwell Desktop (the next shrink) has already slipped to 2015...and when it does get here it will run with a new chipset......it would be like getting an IB COPU and using an older SB mobo but worse as the new mobos will have a whole new Gen of DRAM that Broadwell will be optimized to
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