Upgrading my GTX 570 for gaming...

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You could look for another GTX 570 if you have a 2nd PCIe X16 slot at least x8 bandwidth. I just sold two on ebay. They are still available.

But I would stay away from Crossfire until AMD gets their micro-stutter issues fixed. M-S also exists a tiny bit with SLI, but no where near as much with as CF.
 

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I haven't gotten around to playing Metro Last Light yet. Still in my Steam library unplayed. But I did play Metro 2033. In fact I use the benchmark demo for benching my builds. It is a CPU/GPU killer. I never have had a system that could run it with maxed out settings, an I've had some good CPU/Graphics Cards combos. So, if last light is anything like 2033, don't feel too bad about that one game. I consider the Metro games the new "but can it play Crysis" test.
 

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I put a 6 & 8 pin on it instead of the double 6, and now I'm running Last Light maxed 1920x1080, but only at 2x SSAA... Will a SSD help with framerate in that regard? I hate to say it, but I keep killing all my harddrives, right now I'm running a 5400 1TB Caviar Black and I feel like it's my weak link. Was thinking a HyperX 3k 120gb...?
 

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The stock GTX 760 is a 170W card maxed out. That's about 14.2 amps on the +12V rail. It's not so much if you have all four +12v/gnd points connected in the header, as it is whether or not your PSU can provide the voltage when the card is stressed out. What is the make/model of your PSU? Without having at least 1 x 8 pin it sounds like it might be low end.

A faster HDD/SSD makes no difference to frame rate. That simply speeds loading times. But if your overall PC is feeling sluggish, it is probably because of the 5400RPM HDD. That is a slow laptop drive speed. Or did you really mean 7200RPM? I didn't think WD made a Caviar Black in 5400RPM.
 

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I guess it is 7200rpm, I totally thought it was 5400rpm but I just checked and thats not the case... been switching a bunch of harddrives around must've confused me. And you don't think harddrive speed will change frame rate in the sense, that the platter no longer has to physically spin to load environmental details, the solid state transfer will be instantaneous, so in game details will load faster when moving through environments, reducing stutter & increasing fps?

and my PSU is a TX750w, I don't think it's low end :'(
 

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Loading the next game segment and its environments should not take place in the foreground while you are "in the heat of the action". That should be done during stops. If you are referring to the rendering that takes place as you play where scenery seems to be drawn in front of your eyes while you play, that is a function of the gfx card/CPU and their frame times. The only difference you'll notice with a SSD gaming is load times.

The only TX750 PSU I can think of it this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021
And it's not a low end PSU. But it has 4 x 6+2 pin PCIe power connectors. You seem you indicate that your PSU only has 2 x 6 pin. Is that correct? Can you find a name on the PSU?
 

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That's the Corsair I have, yerp. Half my computer is Corsair! :) It has the 6+2's. I threw on double 6's to start because I have everything routed behind the motherboard... then I switched it to a 6 and a 6+2 dongle I managed to snake out. Miscommunication, I'm afraid lol... It is significantly faster (may just be placebo though... no benchmarks) with the 6/8 instead of 6/6 under a high load though...

And my bad, I always though games like Fallout, Far Cry 3, Oblivion, were grabbing textures from the HDD and rendering them live as you moved about, with the only mass rendering being done at the start of instanced points? Like, large open views of the Las Vegas desert; won't having the application on a SSD increase framerate because of the necessity for physical movement be gone? I still don't quite get where all the voices and textures live interim then I guess

Also, while I'm waiting to accumulate money enough for a dual 760 setup, I must ask - will a 570 as a dedicated physx card make much difference in conjunction with the 760 in Physx heavy games? Will my 750w power supply be enough for the 570, 760, and my P8P67 Pro/i7 2600K?
 

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The textures, sounds, voices, and other data are all loaded into memory at the start of the games segment. They are then replaced when the game loads its next segment. The HDD/SSD does not feed data live to the display.

"I threw on double 6's to start because I have everything routed behind the motherboard..."
I was wondering if that wasn't the case after you said you had the TX750...lol.
I don't think the problem was low power due to a weak PSU, now that I know you have the Corsair. But maybe the card is internally wired to take separate advantage of each +12V circuit individually. I really don't know.

Your 750W Corsair is fine for two GTX 760s. And one 760 plus one 570 will be fine too. The physX card won't be used to any great degree, anyway. PhysX is a very low power option. In fact, PhysX is so un-demanding, it is almost not worth adding the 570 for that. But if you do, don't add the bridge. The Nvidia CP should show the 2nd card and allow you to select it for dedicated PhysX