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Hey there. I have a few questions, to start off, below this is my CURRENT computer I am using and have all the parts listed. A lot of things are Discontinued (Hence most things in the "Other" Category).

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1mRKg
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1mRKg/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1mRKg/benchmarks/

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master V8 69.7 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($47.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($91.78 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 ATX Full Tower Case ($159.98 @ Amazon)
Other: COOLER MASTER Real Power Pro RS-750-ACAA-A1 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply ($129.99)
Other: GIGABYTE GA-X58-USB3 LGA 1366 Intel X58 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($189.99)
Other: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ($69.99)
Other: SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 ST2000DL004 2TB 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ($129.99)
Other: Galaxy 56NGH6HS4IXZ GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) GC 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card ($224.99)
Other: Intel Core i7 Processor i7-920 2.66GHz 8 MB LGA1366 CPU BX80601920 ($309.00)
Total: $1353.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-01 09:54 EDT-0400)



I am looking to upgrade my CPU, Obviously my motherboard, & HDD (Can't afford SSD, so it would just be a 6.0GB/s Drive). In my research I am not sure whether I should go for Intel or AMD.


When I researched benchmarks I noticed the new Intel i7 4770k had a CPU Mark of 10165. Where as the AMD FX-8350 has a CPU Mark of 9126. The price is really only a $30 dollar difference. So is the Intel worth the extra money?
Next Question is what is the best bang for the buck for a motherboard? I know this will depend on what CPU I get. I read over the two articles for new Intel boards and AMD boards, lets just say now I am really confused at which one to go for.
Intel Article: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z87-haswell-motherboard-review,3524.html
AMD Article: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/990fx-motherboard-review-amd-fx,3464.html

Previously I looked at these two boards:

First the Intel board:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1n24q
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1n24q/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1n24q/benchmarks/

Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $189.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-01 10:01 EDT-0400)

Next the AMD board:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hdjL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hdjL/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hdjL/benchmarks/

Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($214.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $214.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-01 10:03 EDT-0400)

These boards are just ones I've picked out. They struck my eye and seemed to be compatible with what I have/upgrading too. I am VERY open to suggestions of new boards, they are kind of pricey. I do not have to have the color red either, these just happen to be red.
My Overall Question then is. Am I heading in the right track for being on a tight budget? Will these components be compatible with my current RAM & PSU?
Most importantly what are your guys suggested builds for CPU & MOBO? What would you change if you were on a tight budget? Out of the motherboards in the Tomshardware articles which ones would you pick, or any motherboard at this point?
In the future I am looking to upgrade my Graphics card as well. (Not enough money)
Hope I supplied enough information!

EDIT: Hopefully made it more clear that the first parts list is my current build
 
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Get a Seasonic , XFX , Antec , or PC POWER PSU.

MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150

I like this board ^


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $99.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-01 10:22 EDT-0400)


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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $74.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-01 10:23 EDT-0400)
 
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Don't buy the cooler master unit. Get a Seasonic X series. It's literally the best unit on the market and should cost about $130.
AMD CPUs are fine. They don't perform like an I5 but since they cost less, it evens out. Unless your running a serious GPU setup an 8320 will be enough power.
 
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So my current PSU is not going to be enough to power the new generation CPUs? The TDP on my current Intel is higher than the new Intel's. The thing that worries me about the MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming board is I didn't see support for 1333 MHz RAM. So will my current sticks work in the new board?
 
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I recently upgraded, and got a maximus VI hero, 4770k haswell, tried to OC to 4.5, but 4.3 was most stable i think, and corsair dominator platinum 16gb (4x4) and the difference from my phenon ii amd, was huge, I would reccomend Intel for gaming, and it can handle other tasks nicely, and AMD is good at brute strength requiring tasks such as photoshop etc, but I have had no issues since, only increases in performance,
as for HDD, Seagate ST4000DM000 4TB 3.5 inch Desktop HDD
runs at 5600rpm, but a big bus speed allows lots of data, and beats quite a few 7200rpm high end disks

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BF3IWP6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


 
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+1 for that board. Its just too expensive. Could go for Asus Z87-A for similar features for cheaper price. (I said similar, not the same!) It at least offers all the overclocking options you may need for a Haswell. + its Asus ^_^
 
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Oh don't get a 560ti either they are old and there many better options. A 650ti boost would be better and it'd cost less. Or if you can find a 1GB 7850, they were discontinued but they're really good for the money too. Or if you can get a 760, that'd be powerful enough to last a good while.
 
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It's not that it doesn't have enough power. It's because those units are low quality, and you can get really good units for the same price.
 
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I think you have misread the first part of my post :). That is my CURRENT build. I own those parts. I am looking to upgrade my CPU and Mobo.
 
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When considering AMD or Intel is matters what software/games you play.

Many newer and some current 4-8 core capable titles favor AMD.
Many older and some current 1-4 core titles favor Intel.

Intel has better per-core oerformance.
AMD has more cores available.

Both do very well for gaming.
You generally get more motherboard features with AMD.
You generally get more for your money with AMD.

AMD will be on par with Intel on 1 or 2 video cards up to 1440p resolutions
Intel 4770k or higher starts to scale better with 3+ video cards

Seriously though, the number or cores your software/game titles can use has a big impact.
 
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I play pretty much all of the new titles. Crysis 3, Battlefield 3, etc...I also record gameplay and am getting into video editing a little bit. This has me leaning towards the more expensive Intel because I heard they have better processing power for editing and renders.
 
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Well, in your scenario there will be a little give and take depending on what you are doing at the time.

For playing + capturing or streaming, an FX 8350 on a 990FXA board with a dedicated capture HDD is the way to go.
But when it comes time to edit the video, an i7 3770k or 4770k will be a bit faster depending on the applications you are using. Just pair it with a good board.

So honestly, I don't think you can really make a wrong choice here. If you go with either above you will be fine. The differences will be small, realistically ~10% overall.

My recommendation would be to pick what you are most familiar with. ;)
 
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I think I put together a build I am happy with. I already own the memory sticks from my current build. Thats why they are $0.00. But here is my parts list!

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1n2Tz
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1n2Tz/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1n2Tz/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($63.99 @ Geeks.com)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $743.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-01 11:04 EDT-0400)
 
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