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August 1, 2013 10:17:28 AM

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Good day all! I built an ATX gaming machine three of years ago using the i5-2500k and the P67 motherboard. I held back on updating the socket 1155 cpu and/or mobo until the Haswell socket 1150 release to see if there were any huge performance gains. I am needing advice with taking an update path. Should I go with the new Haswell 1150 socket or stick with the 1155 socket? I originally wanted to shrink the case footprint and purchased a Prodigy Bitfenix mini itx case. I am not sure if I should keep ATX for better airflow and possible SLI/Crossfire, or if going mini-itx will give me same gaming performance as an atx board is limited to a single GPU?

This machine is primarily used for gaming FPS, RPGs and MMOs. I am wanting specs to keep up with newer games like Elder Scrolls Online, Call of Duty Ghosts, Battlefield 4, Titan Fall, etc... I would like the best bang for my buck and something that could last for 2-5 years. My price range is to keep the upgrades to $600-700 but stretching the budget to $1,200 is doable over a four month period. I plan to keep this for another couple of years for gaming but afterwards this machine will become a NAS, test, or media server.

My concerns are keeping temps as low as possible as well as the noise level. I am open to all manufacturers and brands. As for GPU’s I have not used an ATI/AMD cards since early 2000’s but I am open to their cards or if I should wait till AMD’s new release series as well as more NVidia’s 700 series. The GPU will also need to drive at least 3 ASUS monitors, currently only using one monitor for gaming the other two for web surfing and watching TV. I also would need cooling recommendations for the CPU’s. I plan on reusing the psu, memory (if compatible), monitors, keyboard, ssd hd, and mouse. Thank you again to all who help with this, it is greatly appreciated.

Current Hardware:
CPU: i5-2500k Quad Core http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: Noctura NH-D14 120mm& 140mm SSO. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: MSI P67A-GD55: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive: SSD Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1. 128GB SataIII: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: GeForce GTX 560Ti (Fermi) 1GB Gigabyte brand (only gives me problems with BF3, fix is underclock the card): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Cooler Master Silent Gold 800w RS800-80GAD3-US: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Corsair Graphite Series 600T Arctic White (USB hub on front doesn’t not work): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitors (3) Asus VS Series VS247H-P 23.6” 2ms LED: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: Windows 7 64bit Home

a b 4 Gaming
August 1, 2013 10:19:00 AM

Whats ur total budget ???
August 1, 2013 10:22:07 AM

Total budget of $700 right now instant purchases, or around $1200 if I can purchase bits and pieces for the next four months.
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August 1, 2013 10:31:43 AM

DEFINETELY DONT upgrade from that i5-2500K, you will see NO FPS increase, if your worried about heat, then the haswell based processors actually produce more heat than ivy bridge xD

For three monitors you could get this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($394.25 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($394.25 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $788.50
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-01 13:34 EDT-0400)

but ofcourse a single card config is always the best way to go.

If you are going to be running 3 monitors and you want to max out of games 770 SLI is probably a safe bet, review:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_sl...
August 1, 2013 10:32:14 AM

well as far as your currently listed parts go your still set. What are your system specs maybe there is something else you can upgrade?
August 1, 2013 10:33:05 AM

ps3hacker12 said:
DEFINETELY DONT upgrade from that i5-2500K, you will see NO FPS increase, if your worried about heat, then the haswell based processors actually produce more heat than ivy bridge xD

Your best value upgrade would simply be this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $329.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-01 13:31 EDT-0400)


i agree about the processor, no real reason to upgrade. you wont see enough benefit for the money.
August 1, 2013 10:34:35 AM

Nevermind my last post. Doh. I agree that you should stick with the cpu and just upgrade the graphics card. Your system is pretty much top of the line otherwise.
a b 4 Gaming
August 1, 2013 10:36:07 AM

Get two gtx 760 for u about 500$ and u ll see the performance above a gtx titan

Get this and u wud see boost in ur fps
a b 4 Gaming
a b B Homebuilt system
August 1, 2013 10:38:52 AM

what the guy above said^

I did edit my post a few seconds after posting it, but i geuss someone qouted me before i submitted changes xD
a b 4 Gaming
August 1, 2013 10:43:35 AM

Yeah a lil late u were xD
The best wud be a gtx 760 sli as 770 wud cost much more
August 1, 2013 10:44:02 AM

Should I upgrade the motherboard to a Z77 instead of P67 to utilize the PCI-E 3.0 instead of the 2.0 I currently have? If I should upgrade the motherboard, could I shrink it down to a mini-itx and a single kick ass GPU 770 or 760 and get the same benefit? Also should I go for the 2GB or 4GB on the video cards to help with 3 monitor setup?
a b 4 Gaming
a b B Homebuilt system
August 1, 2013 10:48:21 AM

Cyier said:
Should I upgrade the motherboard to a Z77 instead of P67 to utilize the PCI-E 3.0 instead of the 2.0 I currently have? If I should upgrade the motherboard, could I shrink it down to a mini-itx and a single kick ass GPU 770 or 760 and get the same benefit? Also should I go for the 2GB or 4GB on the video cards to help with 3 monitor setup?


Stick with your current mobo, you do not need the bandwidth of PCI-E 3.0, the mobo upgrade would not bring an FPS increase.

If your looking at 3 monitors and you want a single card either go for a 3GB 7970 (even the Ghz edition) (cheaper) or a 4GB 770.
a b 4 Gaming
August 1, 2013 10:49:10 AM

Yeah it would be good get this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($265.66 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($265.66 @ Newegg)
Total: $701.31
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-01 13:48 EDT-0400)
a b 4 Gaming
August 1, 2013 10:49:40 AM

yes, getting a Z77 board will also help in overclocking
a b 4 Gaming
August 1, 2013 10:50:01 AM

The board should be upgraded if u want sli and best performance
August 1, 2013 10:50:19 AM

sandy bridge doesnt support pcie 3.0 does it? and the benefit is pretty small anyways
August 1, 2013 10:53:37 AM

jinayhvora said:
yes, getting a Z77 board will also help in overclocking


a good p67 board overclocks fine. i have a p67 and have had my i5 at 4.8 for a long time now. theres no real benefit for him to go up to a z77

edit: unless his current board doesnt support sli...it has x16, and x8 slots but doesnt state that it supports sli...that would be the only benefit i see
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August 1, 2013 10:54:12 AM

He doesn't really need a mobo change, his current mobo has 2 PCI-E 2.0 x16 lanes running at x16 and x8, so he would have no bandwidth issues with 2 760s even.
August 1, 2013 10:54:59 AM

Crap, Carowden's right i5-2500k only supports pci-e 2.0. So leads to the other issue, should I go with upgrading the CPU and Mobo to Haswell and sticking with an upgrade path for 1150 instead of sticking with a dead socket?

Just read everyone's update so striking through my response.
a b 4 Gaming
August 1, 2013 10:56:48 AM

just keep ur current CPU till Skylake, u can get a new mobo for the chipset features

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August 1, 2013 10:56:56 AM
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haha man really, pcie 3 is barely BARELY any faster than pcie 2. youre not missing out on much. The money would be better spent on gpus like everyone has said, granted your board supports sli
August 1, 2013 11:00:12 AM

upon searching i found something stating that it is sli supported. i would do more searching to ensure it, but just keep the cpu for one more generation (exactly what im doing with my i5 2500k and p67 board), and get a better gpu/set of gpus for the time being. you wont be hurting by any means

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLOpoDGJZYk
(look at the box at the beginning, has the sli logo), thats a review of the board with the same product number as the one you posted
a b 4 Gaming
August 1, 2013 11:03:08 AM

Ohkay but he shud definately go for sli
August 1, 2013 11:05:34 AM

Sn1992 said:
Ohkay but he shud definately go for sli


^ i agree, definitely if 3 screens are involved
a b 4 Gaming
August 1, 2013 11:06:22 AM

Yeah
August 1, 2013 11:09:55 AM

I was looking but having issues with the MSI website not connecting, oddly enough. Newegg and other reviewers are stating they are using SLI and Crossfire modes. Well looks like I will be sticking with my setup and upgrading to two 760's and a bridge. Thanks again everyone for the help with this!
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August 2, 2013 4:36:44 AM

Cyier said:
I was looking but having issues with the MSI website not connecting, oddly enough. Newegg and other reviewers are stating they are using SLI and Crossfire modes. Well looks like I will be sticking with my setup and upgrading to two 760's and a bridge. Thanks again everyone for the help with this!


Yeah it definetely does support SLI officially:
http://uk.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-GD55.html
August 2, 2013 5:45:32 AM

ps3hacker12 said:
Cyier said:
I was looking but having issues with the MSI website not connecting, oddly enough. Newegg and other reviewers are stating they are using SLI and Crossfire modes. Well looks like I will be sticking with my setup and upgrading to two 760's and a bridge. Thanks again everyone for the help with this!


Yeah it definetely does support SLI officially:
http://uk.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-GD55.html


i tried their website 3 or 4 times yesterday while i was looking this info up and it would never load. must have been doing maintenance or something
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