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So I am about to build a PC rig ment to run handbrake and rip Blu-ray Discs. I will more than likely go with the i7 3930k. But I NEED TO KNOW are there any other possibly CPU options out there. Besides the i7 3960x and the i7 3970x. I have already seen those. So besides the three CPUs I just listed. Is there a better CPU or Multi CPU combination that will beat the i7 3930k, 3960x and 3970x. I can't seem to get a straight answer. Everyone says "yup you should be fine with the 3930k, good choice". Quite frankly. I don't think the 3930k is going to be good enough for my standards. I would like to rip and encode a Blu-ray Disc down to 3-4 GB, 4-5k bitrate and 1080p with Handbrake. I don't want to have to wait 1 day, 12 hours or even 6 Hours. I want to be able to rip the disc in about 2-3 Hours or less. I realize that what I want may be unrealistic because I don't want to spend over $2000 on this build, but that is beside the point. I just want to know options. If there is a CPU or multi CPU combination out there, even if it cost like a million dollars I would like to know about it please.

Also if anyone wants to share there experiences and encodes times for handbrake with there processor please share.

Also if anyone has any hints or tips that could help me get my handbrake encode times down, also share that please and thank you.

I am just looking for information and knowledge and hopefull a solution for my needs.
 
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Very nice sir:)
 
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2x xeon e5 2687w processors, w/ asus z9pe-d16 motherboard.

Total cost: >4,000$.

But it's significantly faster than i7. :)
 
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Before I was using the MacBook Pro and had the i7 3820QM, but I sold that to get a desktop. And you say more than enough, but are you sure. I'm a very picky person when it comes to my movies so ill be wanting the absolute best quality at the absolute lowest file size. To get what I wanted with the 3820QM it took about half a day to encode a standard DVD disc.
 
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A single AMD Opteron 6272 is on par with a single Xeon X5650. Xeon X5650 is based on the Core i7 1st series (think Nehalem architecture).

The Core i7 3930K is built on the 2nd generation Core i7 architecture namely Sandybridge. Last I checked Sandybridge was not twice as fast as Nehalem. So how exactly is a single Intel Core i7 3930K faster than a Dual Opteron 6272?
 
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As a 3930K owner I would have to disagree. Also important to note that the OP stated:
So I am about to build a PC rig ment to run handbrake and rip Blu-ray Discs[
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I don't see a mention, in his post, of wanting to play video games on this rig. He could certainly play games but most of the cores would be idling. Any applications meant for Video/Audio encoding/transcoding would perform spectacularly. As for the 4930K, it will still be slower then the Dual Opteron when encoding Bluray movies.

Another thing worth noting is that I have a Dual Xeon rig at home. I have a Supermicro Dual Xeon motherboard (albeit socket 771) and it works with Windows 7 Pro/Ultimate/Server/Linux (Ubuntu) etc. It works with all of my apps. It goes without saying that I don't game on this machine (but I could).
 
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The OP wanted people to think outside the box. To suggest anything. This is what I am doing.
 
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SSD's help with boot times and program load up times (Photoshop, Microsoft Office, ect.). Hard drive speed doesn't bottleneck performance in most areas, and certainly not encoding. Of all the suggestions, Elmo's is best.
 
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Encoding with my system, I've noticed there isn't too much of a difference of speed between my HDD and SSD. Encoding is primarily CPU dependent, so that is what you should spend your money on. Unless you've been in these situations, you wouldn't know.
 
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The OP wants to encode blu-ray movies fast and cares little about cost, eh? AFTER ripping with DVDFab, my i7 2600k (O'Cd to 4.4Ghz) would recode a typical two hour movie title with BD_Rebuilder in about 2.70 hours. My Phenom II x4 980 BE (O'Cd to 4.2 Ghz) takes about 3.6 hours. For now those times are acceptable as I can set BD_Rebuilder to shut off when the recode is done and my movie will be ready for me to burn when I wake up in the morning. I would imagine the SB-E 3930 would be more than sufficient for the job. As I've grown older I've learned to value a dollar a helluva lot more and since I'm not running a recode factory, I'm happy enough knowing I can burn any of these recodes to a DVD and not even need a Blu-ray player to play 'em back. Besides, I too am growing picky as to which BR movies are worth adding to my collection as back-ups.

The hexacore solutions are especially handy during the encode's second pass at which point the quad cores (all of them) run out of gas and slow down. That's where you'll save the time. I realize you have high standards for these projects but as of yet there is no slam dunk "toaster" option that cuts the time WAY down so that it'll be done by the time you've eaten a ham sandwich.

Best wishes on your new build...!
 
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For encoding that would be one beast of a rig. 32 CORES!!!

I like hafijur's fuzzy-logic-Intel-math where a 4 core i7 can beat 32 cores Bulldozer in an application designed for parallel processing. Lolz!
 
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Indeed they would, but at $1885 a pop that's costly.
 
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Either of those hex cores will meet your expectations. With my FX-8320 @ 4ghz I can encode a Blu-Ray @1080p in anywhere from 50 mins to 2 hrs dependent on the quality settings. I have 3 high to low presets for BR. The highest setting creates a relatively large file ~9-10GB, but is near flawless quality.

The 39xxk's are faster than my FX so your encoding times should/will be superior.
 
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Would you mind sharing other specs on this rig and your Handbrake settings? RAM, HD's, etc.?

My current rigs, all of which are 3+ years old (or more) at this stage give me encode times of around 4 hrs for my BR discs. My best rig is a Quad core Q9550 with 8 GB RAM, and a 90 GB SSD primary drive. I'm using Handbrake 0.9.9 with the Apple 3 TV preset just slightly modified (22 for 'live' and 24 for animated movies on the video quality, with either AC3 passthru or AC3 ffmpeg down-mixed to 320 bit rate 5.1 for DTS soundtracks). I rip the discs (AnyDVD HD) to SATA 3 hard drives first, then mount them as virtual drives which I encode from.

This gives me a very good quality HD file ranging between 2.8 to 10 gigs (depending on material) with full surround. I project these files using my Apple TV 3 on a 150" screen and have yet to find any significant visual issues with the material and absolutely NO surround sound issues at all.

I've been thinking about upgrading, but only if I can get specs like you're suggesting (2 hour BR encodes). Right now, I don't mind the 4+ hour timeframes, but if I could get faster... ;)

Thank you in advance!
 
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My total rig 8320 @4 h100i, 16gb 1600 ram, 2x SSD's, 3x Platters, HD6950.

As far as HB settings, the only differences between the 3 settings I use for BR are "RF/Constant Quality" 23-19 and I either down-mix the audio to DD II or strait pass through for DTS-HD or DD-True. I vary between standrad high and my 3 presets based on how much the visuals or audio mean to the particular movie's experience.
 
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