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August 1, 2013 9:34:47 PM

First off I have to say thanks to the many posters on here I have been looking through forums here quite a bit over the last few weeks and it has really helped me get a fair idea of where to start. Now I need to tweak and refine the last bit of this build so I can get it up and running over the next few days.

A couple of the main questions I have is what PSU I should get. Just like every other part I have looked into there are so many options and it really gets overwhelming trying to ensure that I am not overpaying for a subpar brand or getting more power than is needed. I would rather error on the side of needing a larger PSU that will last if I were to go SLI, Overclock, or add anything to this PC over the next couple of years.

The other question is on the RAM, when I look at PCpartspicker it is telling me that there might be compatibility issues with my i5-4670k. Did I make a mistake here? I snagged it because it was the cheapest I could find of a reputable brand.

Approximate Purchase Date: Trying to buy the rest of the parts over the next couple of days.

Budget Range: I have been attempting to stay around the $1000 dollar mark, but would be willing to go up to $1250, preferring to closer to $1000.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Home computer used mainly for gaming.

Are you buying a monitor: No, I have 2 Acer G27HLDbmid monitors.

Do you need to buy OS: Unsure, I have a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, but I see many people recommending Windows 8. Any advice here is good.

Overclocking: Yes, I have never attempted to overclock before, so I don't want to go overboard. I am wondering if I made the right call with the Eve 212, and the ASRock Extreme 4 in this case. I have been debating exchanging them for something else if there was enough reason.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, it is possible I would add another GTX 760 sometime later, or I might upgrade to whatever happens to be best value per dollar in a couple of years.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, of course I would be happy to have 1440 monitors but it wont happen anytime in the near future.

I am really trying to get the most value for my money with this build and something that will last for as long as possible. I don't mind spending extra if the performance increase is worth it but in many cases the more high end you get the less return for your money too.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $199.99)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (Purchased For $29.99)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Purchased For $99.99)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (Purchased For $54.99)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($63.99 @ Geeks.com)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Titanium Grey) ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $89.99)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (Purchased)
Total: $996.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-02 00:13 EDT-0400)
August 1, 2013 9:49:25 PM

Why not downgrade your HDD since you will have an SSD, then put your money on a 770?

Yes the hyper 212 evo is a very good cooler. :)  You can get an HX850 if you plan on SLIng in the future.
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August 1, 2013 9:52:05 PM

Tell you what, looks like a good rig to me as is, PSU I'd suggest SeaSonic

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 1, 2013 10:10:08 PM

adimeister said:
Why not downgrade your HDD since you will have an SSD, then put your money on a 770?

Yes the hyper 212 evo is a very good cooler. :)  You can get an HX850 if you plan on SLIng in the future.


Well the 770 is about a $150.00 increase over the 760, again since I am trying to stay as close to $1000 as possible I am not sure if after I add in the PSU to the price it will be in my budget.

That is a pretty expensive PSU $160.00.. so if I plan on SLI in the future 850w is what I should be after? It looks like a nice option though I know Corsair is a good brand and having the modular cables is a plus.
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August 1, 2013 10:12:49 PM

Yep, you mentioned SLI as a future option, wouldn't want to buy another PSU then if you decide on that on top of another GPU
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August 1, 2013 10:23:45 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Yep, you mentioned SLI as a future option, wouldn't want to buy another PSU then if you decide on that on top of another GPU


Thanks, well that certainly helps get a better idea on the PSU, I am assuming both suggested would be good options.

I would still like to know if I will have any problems trying to overclock with these parts or if the RAM I selected will be an issue, and PCpartspicker says it might not be compatible with Haswell due to it running at 1.6v although I don't know enough about that to tell if is an issue or not.

And lastly is it worth the actually spending money to upgrade over win7 to win8?
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August 1, 2013 10:31:21 PM

OCing shouldn't be a problem....the DRAMs fine and actually have OC headroom in them...nothing wrong with 1.6 or 1.65 a 2133 or above, you'll be OCing which will take the MC voltage up a bit anyway...as far as Win7 vs 8, it's a personal pref, I worked the Win8 beta from the beginning and am not a big fan, MS didn't listen to the early beta testers nor did they listen to the public when they released it to them in beta.......good thing is when it basically flopped they did start checking notes and are making it better....I run it in a VM to use for support purposes, but that's about it
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August 1, 2013 10:40:06 PM

Corsair HX 850, AX850 or Seasonic X-850. Yes, they will cost you about $120(on sale) -$200. If you want a reliable system do not go cheap on the power supply. Once you go modular you won't go back. Also since you are running Haswell you need a high end power supply to take advantage of some of the power states Haswell offers.
I personally run a Seasonic X-850 in my build and it works very well.
Just keep an eye out at Newegg.com and NCIX.com for sales.

Stay with windows 7, it works.

On overclocking, you will need a higher end cpu cooler if you plan on overclocking Haswell, that and Haswell doesn't overclock that well. Look at a closed loop 240mm water cooler (H100i) or something as big as a Noctua NH-D14, and a high quality power supply like I mentioned above.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Yes you will have cpu cooler fitment issues with tall Ram/memory like that. Get memory shorter than 40mm if you can. Like this Low profile corsair memory.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the video card at least consider a HD 7950, they can usually be had for around $300 on sale and with rebates with some games.
And if you are really lucky you might find a 7970 on sale for around $350, I saw one that low once on NCIX, but I already had my system built.


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August 1, 2013 10:56:17 PM

fixer762 said:
Corsair HX 850, AX850 or Seasonic X-850. Yes, they will cost you about $120(on sale) -$200. If you want a reliable system do not go cheap on the power supply. Once you go modular you won't go back. Also since you are running Haswell you need a high end power supply to take advantage of some of the power states Haswell offers.
I personally run a Seasonic X-850 in my build and it works very well.
Just keep an eye out at Newegg.com and NCIX.com for sales.

Stay with windows 7, it works.

On overclocking, you will need a higher end cpu cooler if you plan on overclocking Haswell, that and Haswell doesn't overclock that well. Look at a closed loop 240mm water cooler (H100i) or something as big as a Noctua NH-D14, and a high quality power supply like I mentioned above.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Yes you will have cpu cooler fitment issues with tall Ram/memory like that. Get memory shorter than 40mm if you can. Like this Low profile corsair memory.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the video card at least consider a HD 7950, they can usually be had for around $300 on sale and with rebates with some games.
And if you are really lucky you might find a 7970 on sale for around $350, I saw one that low once on NCIX, but I already had my system built.




Thank you for the reply, both of those coolers are a big step up in price from the Evo 212, are they simply going to let me push my PSU further in overclocking or are they needed to make sure it is stable?

I have little knowledge when it comes to water cooling, I have heard mixed options and some say they require more hassle and maintenance? Don't know how true this is.

Any reason on the HD 7950 preference? Honestly, I looked at the 7950 compared to the 760 and the 7970 compared to the 770 and didn't see much reason to chose them over the Nvidia cards. Of course if the 7970 still have the selection of free extra games paired with it I might be singing a different tune. Of course I am open minded but would like to know again if it's just a personal preference or something I am overlooking that might make them a better choice.

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August 2, 2013 1:42:46 AM

Boozecube said:
fixer762 said:
Corsair HX 850, AX850 or Seasonic X-850. Yes, they will cost you about $120(on sale) -$200. If you want a reliable system do not go cheap on the power supply. Once you go modular you won't go back. Also since you are running Haswell you need a high end power supply to take advantage of some of the power states Haswell offers.
I personally run a Seasonic X-850 in my build and it works very well.
Just keep an eye out at Newegg.com and NCIX.com for sales.

Stay with windows 7, it works.

On overclocking, you will need a higher end cpu cooler if you plan on overclocking Haswell, that and Haswell doesn't overclock that well. Look at a closed loop 240mm water cooler (H100i) or something as big as a Noctua NH-D14, and a high quality power supply like I mentioned above.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Yes you will have cpu cooler fitment issues with tall Ram/memory like that. Get memory shorter than 40mm if you can. Like this Low profile corsair memory.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the video card at least consider a HD 7950, they can usually be had for around $300 on sale and with rebates with some games.
And if you are really lucky you might find a 7970 on sale for around $350, I saw one that low once on NCIX, but I already had my system built.




Thank you for the reply, both of those coolers are a big step up in price from the Evo 212, are they simply going to let me push my PSU further in overclocking or are they needed to make sure it is stable?

I have little knowledge when it comes to water cooling, I have heard mixed options and some say they require more hassle and maintenance? Don't know how true this is.

Any reason on the HD 7950 preference? Honestly, I looked at the 7950 compared to the 760 and the 7970 compared to the 770 and didn't see much reason to chose them over the Nvidia cards. Of course if the 7970 still have the selection of free extra games paired with it I might be singing a different tune. Of course I am open minded but would like to know again if it's just a personal preference or something I am overlooking that might make them a better choice.



From what I have heard about Haswell is if you intend to overclock it you need a very good cooler as it gets very hot quickly, you likely could do a 200mhz -400mhz overclock with the Cm 212 evo just fine.

On water cooling yeah I wouldn't touch it either, I'd be worried about it leaking too, it is just simpler to stay with air. If I built my own water cooling loop though it would be a different story I think. I just wanted to present water cooling as an option.

Yes, personally I do prefer Radeon cards. You get 3gb of vram with the 79XX series though regardless of what card you choose. Not so with the Nvidia it is either 2gb or special editions of 4gb.
I just looked up the prices, the HD7950 is only about $50 more than a GTX760.
Here is a good one, and I can vouch for this one personally, I have one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And it is cheaper than I got it for.
The 770 is around $400 for just a little bit more performance than the 760. A 7970 would be a better and cheaper choice for me. Also if you plan on video editing or mining Bitcoins, Radeons are the only way to go.
I don't know if they are still doing the Amd Reloaded game bundle.
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August 2, 2013 2:37:04 PM

fixer762 said:
Boozecube said:
fixer762 said:
Corsair HX 850, AX850 or Seasonic X-850. Yes, they will cost you about $120(on sale) -$200. If you want a reliable system do not go cheap on the power supply. Once you go modular you won't go back. Also since you are running Haswell you need a high end power supply to take advantage of some of the power states Haswell offers.
I personally run a Seasonic X-850 in my build and it works very well.
Just keep an eye out at Newegg.com and NCIX.com for sales.

Stay with windows 7, it works.

On overclocking, you will need a higher end cpu cooler if you plan on overclocking Haswell, that and Haswell doesn't overclock that well. Look at a closed loop 240mm water cooler (H100i) or something as big as a Noctua NH-D14, and a high quality power supply like I mentioned above.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Yes you will have cpu cooler fitment issues with tall Ram/memory like that. Get memory shorter than 40mm if you can. Like this Low profile corsair memory.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For the video card at least consider a HD 7950, they can usually be had for around $300 on sale and with rebates with some games.
And if you are really lucky you might find a 7970 on sale for around $350, I saw one that low once on NCIX, but I already had my system built.




Thank you for the reply, both of those coolers are a big step up in price from the Evo 212, are they simply going to let me push my PSU further in overclocking or are they needed to make sure it is stable?

I have little knowledge when it comes to water cooling, I have heard mixed options and some say they require more hassle and maintenance? Don't know how true this is.

Any reason on the HD 7950 preference? Honestly, I looked at the 7950 compared to the 760 and the 7970 compared to the 770 and didn't see much reason to chose them over the Nvidia cards. Of course if the 7970 still have the selection of free extra games paired with it I might be singing a different tune. Of course I am open minded but would like to know again if it's just a personal preference or something I am overlooking that might make them a better choice.



From what I have heard about Haswell is if you intend to overclock it you need a very good cooler as it gets very hot quickly, you likely could do a 200mhz -400mhz overclock with the Cm 212 evo just fine.

On water cooling yeah I wouldn't touch it either, I'd be worried about it leaking too, it is just simpler to stay with air. If I built my own water cooling loop though it would be a different story I think. I just wanted to present water cooling as an option.

Yes, personally I do prefer Radeon cards. You get 3gb of vram with the 79XX series though regardless of what card you choose. Not so with the Nvidia it is either 2gb or special editions of 4gb.
I just looked up the prices, the HD7950 is only about $50 more than a GTX760.
Here is a good one, and I can vouch for this one personally, I have one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And it is cheaper than I got it for.
The 770 is around $400 for just a little bit more performance than the 760. A 7970 would be a better and cheaper choice for me. Also if you plan on video editing or mining Bitcoins, Radeons are the only way to go.
I don't know if they are still doing the Amd Reloaded game bundle.


I will take a look around and see if there are still any 7970's with the reloaded bundle out there unfortunately, I think I might have missed out there.


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August 2, 2013 3:59:53 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Yep, you mentioned SLI as a future option, wouldn't want to buy another PSU then if you decide on that on top of another GPU


So I was looking around based on what you said and found what I think it a pretty solid 850w PSU for $105 or $90 after MIR.

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850M 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Semi Modular High Performance Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready

Would this be a good enough option?


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August 2, 2013 4:05:01 PM

Think that would do, yes.... :) 
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