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August 2, 2013 2:33:17 AM

Going to be running a 4670k haswel chip in my first build, im looking at overclocking it to atleast 4ghz maybe 4.5ghz ( iv heard the 4.5 is unlikely unless you get lucky or have a custom loop) but i am a bit stuck at what cooler to get, I was looking at a ximatek Dark knight II nighthawk edition in push pull but have worries regarding RAM clearance ( using avexir mpower RAM) so started looking at a pre made water cooler, looked at H100i from corsair but it wont fit in the case without modification (CM enforcer case) now looking at a H80i or a CM seiden, any suggestions or conformation of clearance for the dark knight?

colour scheme is red and black, so trying to keep to it.

many thanks in advance
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August 2, 2013 6:37:57 AM

A Seidon 120XL would probably work for you.
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August 2, 2013 8:14:38 AM

Sn1992 said:
The best u can get is a nzxt kraken x60 which would outperform a h100 and seideon

CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($107.99 @ Newegg)


If the H100 won't fit in his case, neither will that one.
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August 2, 2013 8:42:42 AM

I wouldn´t bother with the H80i and get an highend air cooler.

Phanteks PH-TC14PE
BeQuiet Dark Rock 2 Pro
Noctua NH-D14
Prolimatech Genesis

Those are probably the best around. I personally only had the DR2P and the Genesis and I can confirm that those are awesome coolers.
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August 2, 2013 8:47:11 AM

Som3one said:
I wouldn´t bother with the H80i and get an highend air cooler.

Phanteks PH-TC14PE
BeQuiet Dark Rock 2 Pro
Noctua NH-D14
Prolimatech Genesis

Those are probably the best around. I personally only had the DR2P and the Genesis and I can confirm that those are awesome coolers.


But will they clear his ram? That was his concern and why he was looking at the AIO water solutions.
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August 2, 2013 8:59:09 AM



Think Ripjaws have higher heatspreaders so should be fine, also the fan hight can be adjusted by moving the clip on a little higher.
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August 2, 2013 9:30:26 AM

I´m pretty sure the DR2P and the Genesis would fit.
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August 2, 2013 11:56:33 AM

sarinaide said:


Think Ripjaws have higher heatspreaders so should be fine, also the fan hight can be adjusted by moving the clip on a little higher.


thanks, but also by clearance i ment it being easier to upgrade, im getting 8gb but in future might upgrade to 16, with the AIO water kits the cables don't look like much intrusion, but that was my issue with dark knight, i have a feeling id have to un atach the cooler to refit 2 more memory sticks :/ .
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August 2, 2013 12:00:02 PM

cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:


Think Ripjaws have higher heatspreaders so should be fine, also the fan hight can be adjusted by moving the clip on a little higher.


thanks, but also by clearance i ment it being easier to upgrade, im getting 8gb but in future might upgrade to 16, with the AIO water kits the cables don't look like much intrusion, but that was my issue with dark knight, i have a feeling id have to un atach the cooler to refit 2 more memory sticks :/ .


Antec Kuhler 620, Coolermaster Seidon 120 or Corsair H55 are perfect, buy extra screws and get good fans for push/pull setup and you have solid closed loop cooling.

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August 2, 2013 12:00:29 PM

Depends on your motherboard. I only have to slide my fan up to swap ram sticks with my Hyper 212.
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August 2, 2013 12:10:53 PM

sarinaide said:
cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:


Think Ripjaws have higher heatspreaders so should be fine, also the fan hight can be adjusted by moving the clip on a little higher.


thanks, but also by clearance i ment it being easier to upgrade, im getting 8gb but in future might upgrade to 16, with the AIO water kits the cables don't look like much intrusion, but that was my issue with dark knight, i have a feeling id have to un atach the cooler to refit 2 more memory sticks :/ .


Antec Kuhler 620, Coolermaster Seidon 120 or Corsair H55 are perfect, buy extra screws and get good fans for push/pull setup and you have solid closed loop cooling.



thank you :) , stupid question but as a first.time builder what screws do i need? And im in UK so no newegg for me, to stick to colour scheme in looking at coolermaster sickleflows in red: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-fan-...

but if the stock fans are better for the job on those coolers i can leave a little aesthetics out for better performance.
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August 2, 2013 12:19:25 PM

The cooler should come with any screws that you will need to install. :) 
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August 2, 2013 12:20:37 PM

cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:
cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:


Think Ripjaws have higher heatspreaders so should be fine, also the fan hight can be adjusted by moving the clip on a little higher.


thanks, but also by clearance i ment it being easier to upgrade, im getting 8gb but in future might upgrade to 16, with the AIO water kits the cables don't look like much intrusion, but that was my issue with dark knight, i have a feeling id have to un atach the cooler to refit 2 more memory sticks :/ .


Antec Kuhler 620, Coolermaster Seidon 120 or Corsair H55 are perfect, buy extra screws and get good fans for push/pull setup and you have solid closed loop cooling.



thank you :) , stupid question but as a first.time builder what screws do i need? And im in UK so no newegg for me, to stick to colour scheme in looking at coolermaster sickleflows in red: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-fan-...

but if the stock fans are better for the job on those coolers i can leave a little aesthetics out for better performance.


You may get sent 8 but they are specialized screws you can order from distrubutors or some hardware shops have them.

They cost a bit but I rate the Corsair SP 120's, you get black and red but these displace some serious air and have good static pressure. Scythe Gentle typhoon 120mm are also very nice fans.

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August 2, 2013 12:24:06 PM

All things would be included in the package
The best u can get is a cooler master hyper 212 evo cooler
Its a grea cooler which can easily maintain low temps while o.cin
It can even outperform aio liq coolers like h60,h80 antec 620!,seideon 120m

And teh best thing is its for 30$
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August 2, 2013 1:06:44 PM

sarinaide said:
cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:
cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:


Think Ripjaws have higher heatspreaders so should be fine, also the fan hight can be adjusted by moving the clip on a little higher.


thanks, but also by clearance i ment it being easier to upgrade, im getting 8gb but in future might upgrade to 16, with the AIO water kits the cables don't look like much intrusion, but that was my issue with dark knight, i have a feeling id have to un atach the cooler to refit 2 more memory sticks :/ .


Antec Kuhler 620, Coolermaster Seidon 120 or Corsair H55 are perfect, buy extra screws and get good fans for push/pull setup and you have solid closed loop cooling.



thank you :) , stupid question but as a first.time builder what screws do i need? And im in UK so no newegg for me, to stick to colour scheme in looking at coolermaster sickleflows in red: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-fan-...

but if the stock fans are better for the job on those coolers i can leave a little aesthetics out for better performance.


You may get sent 8 but they are specialized screws you can order from distrubutors or some hardware shops have them.

They cost a bit but I rate the Corsair SP 120's, you get black and red but these displace some serious air and have good static pressure. Scythe Gentle typhoon 120mm are also very nice fans.



and even tho theyre corsair they would work with the antec and seiden etc not just corsair coolers? , thanks for the help so far :) 
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August 2, 2013 1:09:19 PM

Those coolers can be outperformed by much cheaper coolers like the h212 evo which is a fabulous cooler

U can find it at every forum cz it is the best
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August 2, 2013 1:24:46 PM

Well, it isn´t the best. It´s just the best bang for the buck.

And almost all 120/140 AiO suck at both, bang and buck.
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August 2, 2013 1:41:34 PM

Yeah that is why hyper 212 evo is everyones favr8
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August 2, 2013 2:48:48 PM

Sn1992 said:
Yeah that is why hyper 212 evo is everyones favr8


thanks :) , that was one of my other options but with the big qir coolers, if im in a push pull config it would cover some of the RAM slots, im starting with 8gb but may go to 16, so i need a cooler that leaves the 2 empty slots easily accessible, i don't really want to be removing a cpu cooler just to sit 2 more sticks of ram :/ 
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August 2, 2013 8:44:49 PM

That is not the problem with evo
U can shift the fan just upwards and that will do it all
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August 2, 2013 11:45:35 PM

cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:
cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:
cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:


Think Ripjaws have higher heatspreaders so should be fine, also the fan hight can be adjusted by moving the clip on a little higher.


thanks, but also by clearance i ment it being easier to upgrade, im getting 8gb but in future might upgrade to 16, with the AIO water kits the cables don't look like much intrusion, but that was my issue with dark knight, i have a feeling id have to un atach the cooler to refit 2 more memory sticks :/ .


Antec Kuhler 620, Coolermaster Seidon 120 or Corsair H55 are perfect, buy extra screws and get good fans for push/pull setup and you have solid closed loop cooling.



thank you :) , stupid question but as a first.time builder what screws do i need? And im in UK so no newegg for me, to stick to colour scheme in looking at coolermaster sickleflows in red: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-fan-...

but if the stock fans are better for the job on those coolers i can leave a little aesthetics out for better performance.


You may get sent 8 but they are specialized screws you can order from distrubutors or some hardware shops have them.

They cost a bit but I rate the Corsair SP 120's, you get black and red but these displace some serious air and have good static pressure. Scythe Gentle typhoon 120mm are also very nice fans.



and even tho theyre corsair they would work with the antec and seiden etc not just corsair coolers? , thanks for the help so far :) 


Yes, fans can work on any cooler or case provided you have right size ie: 120mm, 140mm, 180mm or 200m. Most single radiators use 120mm in push pull configuration.

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August 2, 2013 11:51:03 PM

cavemantech said:

thanks :) , that was one of my other options but with the big qir coolers, if im in a push pull config it would cover some of the RAM slots, im starting with 8gb but may go to 16, so i need a cooler that leaves the 2 empty slots easily accessible, i don't really want to be removing a cpu cooler just to sit 2 more sticks of ram :/ 

Understandable, but when I had an DR2P I was still able to access all RAM slots although the one closest to the cooler was a bit tricky and it took like 10s longer to exchange the RAM. ;) 
BUT if your RAM slots are closer to the cooler than mine were (still in case of the DR2P) removing the whole cooler might become a real hazzle.

But when I had the Genesis I had to remove the cooler to get to the RAM. Obviously. ;) 
But due to the simple mounting concept of that cooler demounting, installing RAM and remounting it was actually pretty fast, too.

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August 3, 2013 12:26:40 AM

sarinaide said:
cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:
cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:
cavemantech said:
sarinaide said:


Think Ripjaws have higher heatspreaders so should be fine, also the fan hight can be adjusted by moving the clip on a little higher.


thanks, but also by clearance i ment it being easier to upgrade, im getting 8gb but in future might upgrade to 16, with the AIO water kits the cables don't look like much intrusion, but that was my issue with dark knight, i have a feeling id have to un atach the cooler to refit 2 more memory sticks :/ .


Antec Kuhler 620, Coolermaster Seidon 120 or Corsair H55 are perfect, buy extra screws and get good fans for push/pull setup and you have solid closed loop cooling.



thank you :) , stupid question but as a first.time builder what screws do i need? And im in UK so no newegg for me, to stick to colour scheme in looking at coolermaster sickleflows in red: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-fan-...

but if the stock fans are better for the job on those coolers i can leave a little aesthetics out for better performance.


You may get sent 8 but they are specialized screws you can order from distrubutors or some hardware shops have them.

They cost a bit but I rate the Corsair SP 120's, you get black and red but these displace some serious air and have good static pressure. Scythe Gentle typhoon 120mm are also very nice fans.



and even tho theyre corsair they would work with the antec and seiden etc not just corsair coolers? , thanks for the help so far :) 


Yes, fans can work on any cooler or case provided you have right size ie: 120mm, 140mm, 180mm or 200m. Most single radiators use 120mm in push pull configuration.



thanks, i just had a look at couple of tests and seidenXL seems to beat Dr2 and couple of others by a few degrees, and still leaves clearance :) , i know im going on a bit but now iv decided i need to ask one final question, iv seen this method being used but will it really make that much difference, instead of having the 120mm fans as a push pull exhaust you have them as an intake so supposedly the air the radiator is getting is slightly cooler, so if i used this setup id have 200mm (i think cant remember) intake at front, the push pull intake at the back and 2 120mm exhaust fans at the top.

think i get a mesh cover with the case, but if it only makes 1 degree difference but gets dustier quicker ill setup as exhaust instead.

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August 3, 2013 12:31:51 AM

Som3one said:
cavemantech said:

thanks :) , that was one of my other options but with the big qir coolers, if im in a push pull config it would cover some of the RAM slots, im starting with 8gb but may go to 16, so i need a cooler that leaves the 2 empty slots easily accessible, i don't really want to be removing a cpu cooler just to sit 2 more sticks of ram :/ 

Understandable, but when I had an DR2P I was still able to access all RAM slots although the one closest to the cooler was a bit tricky and it took like 10s longer to exchange the RAM. ;) 
BUT if your RAM slots are closer to the cooler than mine were (still in case of the DR2P) removing the whole cooler might become a real hazzle.

But when I had the Genesis I had to remove the cooler to get to the RAM. Obviously. ;) 
But due to the simple mounting concept of that cooler demounting, installing RAM and remounting it was actually pretty fast, too.



im not too sure being a first time builder, but the mobo is http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87gd65...
i think ill go with seidenXl just to be on the safe side of things, but thank you for your help :) 

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August 3, 2013 1:09:08 AM

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thanks, i just had a look at couple of tests and seidenXL seems to beat Dr2 and couple of others by a few degrees, and still leaves clearance :)  , i know im going on a bit but now iv decided i need to ask one final question, iv seen this method being used but will it really make that much difference, instead of having the 120mm fans as a push pull exhaust you have them as an intake so supposedly the air the radiator is getting is slightly cooler, so if i used this setup id have 200mm (i think cant remember) intake at front, the push pull intake at the back and 2 120mm exhaust fans at the top.

think i get a mesh cover with the case, but if it only makes 1 degree difference but gets dustier quicker ill setup as exhaust instead.


That can work but you are not going to see much either way, I prefer front in back out airflow but you can experiment but again you are not going to get much out of it if even a degree.
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August 3, 2013 1:42:28 AM

sarinaide said:
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thanks, i just had a look at couple of tests and seidenXL seems to beat Dr2 and couple of others by a few degrees, and still leaves clearance :)  , i know im going on a bit but now iv decided i need to ask one final question, iv seen this method being used but will it really make that much difference, instead of having the 120mm fans as a push pull exhaust you have them as an intake so supposedly the air the radiator is getting is slightly cooler, so if i used this setup id have 200mm (i think cant remember) intake at front, the push pull intake at the back and 2 120mm exhaust fans at the top.

think i get a mesh cover with the case, but if it only makes 1 degree difference but gets dustier quicker ill setup as exhaust instead.


That can work but you are not going to see much either way, I prefer front in back out airflow but you can experiment but again you are not going to get much out of it if even a degree.


thanks, ill keep it in that config then :)  thank you and everyone. Else for the help.
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