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Anonymous
August 2, 2013 6:06:42 AM

Hello,

I was thinking to buy a gigabyte 990xa ud3 but I heard that its northbridge gets quite hot and found out that msi990fx has 2 PCIe x16slots and has easy OC capabilities. There is like 5 dollar difference with msi being 5 dollar more expensive in my country and @ cheapest website I found. So what do you say and please explain why.

INFO:
CPU: Amd fx 6300 3.5 ghz
GPU: asus gtx 650 ti boost directcu ii 2gb 196 bit
ram: 4 gig gskill ripjaws @ 1600 mhz


Do I want OCing, yes I would like to get the cpu to 4.0 ghz and also push gpu further a bit.

Considering these I could also get suggestions on a cheap cpu-fan solution that would be ok with OCing.

Thanks
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August 2, 2013 6:13:14 AM

I have the intel version z87-gd65 and I love mine. It OC's very easy, has every port I need (even mSATA for future upgrades) and I could not be happier.

I had a GIGABYTE AMD board on my Phenom II X4 940 build and 2 of the RAM DIMMS went out randomly while playing counter strike. So in my personal experience, I'd stay away from GIGABYTE but I could just be holdig a grudge. That build is also 4 years old.

EDIT: didn't see your question about heatsinks. I personally with a H100i but if you are looking for air-cooling this one tends to be the winner for price vs air movement.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 2, 2013 7:12:12 AM

I have the Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3. Normally their UD line is rock solid. And mine has been as well, but that's not the full story. The problem was Gigabyte had 3 versions of this board.

Version 1 was fine...but they tried changing out the northbridge heatsink for version 2

Version 2 had northbridge heat issues thanks to the dinky heatsink, it simply was not up to the job

Version 3 they went back to the good heatsink


Just make sure you get a board with the good heatsink and you will be fine. Also a downdraft or front-to-back airflow pattern with plenty of fan draft under the heatsink will go a LONG way to keeping the NB cooler. ;) 


I have a 1090t @ 4.0GHz and 2 HD 7950's in crossfire and my board handles the load/heat just fine. So as long as you get the right version you will be fine.
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August 2, 2013 7:59:19 AM

The ud3 also has two x16 lanes btw
Edit: And as far as cheap cpu fans go, it doesnt get any better than the Hyper 212 evo for ~$30
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Anonymous
August 2, 2013 10:16:10 AM

Because of currency conversion in my country cheapest price I can get 212 evo is actually 55 USD worth lol. I bet I could have bought some nice stuff for that money if I was able to buy from newegg


@maddogfargo
But wouldn't you recommend the msi one as well? 990fxa seems like a step-up from the 990xa or am I wrong?
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August 2, 2013 11:22:26 AM

The boards are pretty much similar in every way. The ud3 however does offer a usb 3.0 connector for your front panel if your case happens to have that. The ud3 also has two more pcie 2.0 lanes but at x4 each
Not sure what you mean by 990fxa vs 990xa. both boards use the 990fx chipset

Edit: oh sorry, i see now. I thought you were talking about the 990fxa ud3, nevermind, The 990fx is a step up over 990x in that it allows two pcie 2.0 lanes to run at x16 on the msi like you mentioned in your first post, Do you plan on using SLI in the future?
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August 2, 2013 8:57:47 PM

first i want to start off by introducing myself to everyone. im 42 yrs old and been building computers for over 25 years. I have owned many msi motherboards, and only buy the very top of the line products, (amd) products. i want to let everyone know exactly my experience and the kind of treatment i have got from a company that i used to swear by and gave many many thousands of my hard earned money. my current setup is as follows.

msi 990fxa-gd80v2 motherboard
amd fx-8120 cpu
corsair h100i water cooler w/ 2 2500rpm sp fans, and 2 delta 5000rpm high powered high performance fans in a push pull design
mushkin jewbelie 1000watt modular power supply
16gb gskill 1866 ripjaw memory
ocz vertex 80gb ssd, wd 2tb, seagate 2tb, 2tb,1.5tb
lg multi dvd/rw
evga geforce 660sc
thermaltake element case (nvidia edition)

from the start heres how it went for me, please read this it is very important to everyone.
I ordered this board from newegg when i got it and built the machine it was great. i set it all up and overclocked it to 5ghz it ran like a charm, idling between 18 to 25c i felt because of such low temps i could get more. so because the bios was limited on the voltage i reflashed the bios to f3 and it unlocked the voltages. i was then able to get it as high as 5.4ghz but the temps nearly doubled but yet was still very acceptable at idle 36c and underload 44c. but it would freeze up here n there to the end result i decided to stay with the 5ghz.
i used the msi live update tool and it redownloaded and installed the bios back to the newest version. and when it did something went wrong and the end result was it bricked the board wiping out the bios.. i had to rma the board, having to pay another 25$ to resend it back to msi and waiting around 2 weeks with the transfer time. now whats wrong is. I paid for a brand new board, but their policy states they only send back refurb items. the board i got back was scratched and a dent right on the north bridge heat sink. i wasnt to happy but i said "heh, what can ya do" I rebuild the machine and it turns out the new board aint half of the first board. at stock speeds i noticed the board was running literally 3 times hotter. stock speeds idling at 41c and couldnt even get
the board to run at 4.5ghz without it burning up. so i was like here we go. i called and was not happy so msi this time paid for the shipping seeing that it was a sec bad product. I waited again 2 weeks, in the mean time i called msi and requested that they please send me a new board so theres very minimal chance of something being wrong with the next one and they told me they will do their best. and i explained to them if it was possible that they could put a bios in the board for me that had an (unlocked) cpu voltage and they asked me what version did i prefer, all in all they said no problem. now i have finally got the board back after another 2 weeks (2 days ago). yesterday i rebuilt the machine again for the 3rd time. and guess what? same junk all over again. they did put a different bios version and i noticed a few new options in it. but same limited cpu voltage, and same temps that i cant do nothing with. i know the board very well because i used the first board for 6 months before the utility bricking it. i know exactly what the board is capable of. but not these refurbished boards, their refurbished for a reason. the board wont let me flash it backwards at all. and the same cpu that ran as high as 5.4ghz wont even run at 4.5ghz in the last board (refurb) boards without it burning up. everything is the same but the board. so today i call msi and explain to them that i feel like i been taking for a ride. and wish to speak to someone high up in the company and i was refused. and explained to the guy that i do not want this
board and because they refuse to send me a new board i asked ill just send the board in its entirety back and they can just credit my debit card. also they refused. thats what brings me here. its to let everyone know what msi did to me. once you give your money they no longer care about us as consumers. they list the product as this great overclocker, and even dedicate a section of the bios to overclocking but yet will tell you they dont support overclocking. i have a msi kn9s diamond (nvidia 780a) board that runs circles around this board in my closet. that overclocks just as good with a 1/3 the temps. my wife has a asrock extreeme 3 990 board in the living room that ran this cpu at 40c on air with a zalman cooler. yet this with water idle is at 41c. i will never in my life buy another msi product for this experience. i will take the board as a loss, i refuse to accept another refurbished product after paying top dollar and originally buying a brand new product. I hope this opens a lot of peoples eyes because this could be you with your next msi motherboard. would it really be worth taking that chance ? i even told the tech that i was gonna post all over the internet what kind of treatment i got from msi, and how they cant even make good on 2 defective products that they swear by. i never in my life had any issues like this with a motherboard and i have owned hundreds from every major manufacturer that makes mainboards, asus, gigabyte, ecs, even from epox and dfi when they were around. but msi lost a customer for life. ill
never in my life buy one again and i hope none of you do either just so no one has to ever go through this. i will order now the asrock 990fx extreeme 9 motherboard that does everything this msi board was supposed to be and then some. higher memory support, 8 sata 6.0, nearly doubled the usb 3.0 and highly overclockable. i hope this helps many of you. be wise and buy from another company. im sorry for any typos that may exist or not using periods and caps where i should have. thanks for you taking the time to read this.

ex-Msi User.

p.s buy the gigabyte or you could have this happen to you.
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Anonymous
August 3, 2013 2:05:48 AM

Tree_Hugger said:
The boards are pretty much similar in every way. The ud3 however does offer a usb 3.0 connector for your front panel if your case happens to have that. The ud3 also has two more pcie 2.0 lanes but at x4 each
Not sure what you mean by 990fxa vs 990xa. both boards use the 990fx chipset

Edit: oh sorry, i see now. I thought you were talking about the 990fxa ud3, nevermind, The 990fx is a step up over 990x in that it allows two pcie 2.0 lanes to run at x16 on the msi like you mentioned in your first post, Do you plan on using SLI in the future?


Well yes not this year or maybe another year but in the future I will definitely use it and add one of the same card, I heard it reaches the performance of gtx680 when you SLI this baby.

@morpihus thanks for sharing your experience but I actually live in Turkey and I will buy it from a big store chain which is great in terms of customer support, I think if msi does not replace it they will. The warranty system here is kinda different, if something happens without customer's fault they always replace it and I have never heard of refurbished stuff here in Turkey, there is not a refurb system so I think this will not be an issue for me. I understand the problem, the problem is how they treat the customer but even the big companies consist of individuals in the end and you may run into a bad sort when dealing with them, I don't think everyone actually sees something like that and I bet gigabyte or any other brand has just so terribly unsatisfied customers as well. Sorry to hear that happen to you, really unfair.

And this msi card costs 135 dollars here in Turkey, I bet it is more than what it is on newegg and I am running on a budget so I just want to get the best I can within my budget. Guess this is the msi990fx-gd65 in this case?
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August 4, 2013 11:06:48 AM

Yeah, the msi would be best for you if plan on using SLI because of its two x16 pcie lanes. Just note, like i said earlier, the Msi doesn't have a connector for front panel USB 3.0 if your case happens to have them, but it does usb 3.0 on the back panel so no big deal
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