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Right now i using a 300gb hdd, divided into to C and D 150gb respectively
im planning to get an ssd provide more then 500gb of space but money is an issue for now, since this hdd is quite old(about 5 years+) so i want to make this only as a storage of temporary file

so right now im planning of getting 2x 1tb hardisk, 1 for C and D or(C,D/E)
so which kind of hdd is the best to suite the usage of :
*C(program,game,editing program)
*D(storage for video,image, editing files, installation files,music etc)
-i want to hdd to be fast and responsive, if can both of it, so opening program will be fast(C) and searching thousand of file in instant that does not shown any big lag(D)
-i know it wont be as good as ssd but it be fine if it still responsive and does the job fast

so which one is the best?black,red,blue,green? and also please recommend me of the best brand out there

*please no velociraptor(no cash)
*im not gonna do raid

the C hardisk will be clone to 750gb or 1tb Ssd in the future.
 
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I don't see how you would clone a disk without software... Especially since the disk you want to clone is your OS. If the OS is running it's virtually impossible to clone it because important files are in use and being locked by the OS and therefore can't be copied. You need to boot on a temporary boot disk or usb key that has a cloning software on it.

But I agree with JohnnyLucky, a clean install of Windows is the best, but I understand you have a lot of software so you might not want to reinstall them. It's just that over the years Windows tend to slow down, so this is why every two or three years I reformat and start with a fresh OS.

And to answer your last question, after the cloning, you might want to reformat the other drive...
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I have a 1TB WD Black at home for 3 years now and really satisfied with it. They're even more reliable than the Blue and a little faster. The only drawback is that they're a little noisy, but nothing too dramatic.

Just out of curiosity, I was wondering why you need a 750GB or 1TB SSD? It's a lot of space for a SSD. For instance, I have a 256GB SSD and it's plenty enough for the OS, all my programs and games. I put my data (music, movie, picture, etc...) on my secondary 1TB HDD.
 
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my current c(150gb) already full with just 1/6 of my programs installed.... im think 750 it okay, or i will just go straight 1tb
bunch of editing software and modded games

red is more expensive then black, i just dont get it, what the usage of nas?
 
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OK you have a lot of programs then, lol.

For the difference between the drive colors, check the Western Digital website they're all explained. Red is optimized for RAID configurations. If you don't plan to use RAID, just stick to Black.

 
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If you have a case with good insulation, noise shouldn't be too much of an issue. I have a Antec Nine Hundred and I don't find it too noisy. I can definitely hear it when it's working, but not enough to be something annoying.

Seagate and Western Digital are two big brands for HDD. I always had a preference for WD, but don't mark my words for it. Really it comes down to personal experience. I saw many Seagates failing at my work place, so it's likely to influence me. But I'm sure you can find people who had bad experiences with WD. All in all, they are two big brands and two big players, they both make good HDD. But you can always Google search a model in particular and try to find professional reviews on it, just in case it's a model with some known issues.
 
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i currently use western digital,already running more then 5 years+ plus on more then 75% of it capacity use all the time, no hdd failing till now

" I can definitely hear it when it's working"
maybe i need to google/youtube about this first..
 
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Acronis True Image is probably the best software for this, but unfortunately it isn't free, although it ain't too expensive (around 50$ I believe).

I've used Clonezilla in the past which is free, not as user friendly and features rich, but it worked.
 
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?????

I don't understand your question. The two software I suggested are imaging software, so there's no Windows installation implied.

You asked about cloning the old disk to the new one, so I just gave you software that do that.
 
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i mean doing that without the software? but if cant i fine with that way
and the if i got a new hdd, do i just plug and start the cloning process? or i need to format that hdd first?
 
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I don't see how you would clone a disk without software... Especially since the disk you want to clone is your OS. If the OS is running it's virtually impossible to clone it because important files are in use and being locked by the OS and therefore can't be copied. You need to boot on a temporary boot disk or usb key that has a cloning software on it.

But I agree with JohnnyLucky, a clean install of Windows is the best, but I understand you have a lot of software so you might not want to reinstall them. It's just that over the years Windows tend to slow down, so this is why every two or three years I reformat and start with a fresh OS.

And to answer your last question, after the cloning, you might want to reformat the other drive because it will have tons of system files on it that are hidden so only a good old format will get rid of everything. Just make sure the drive you want to boot from is set correctly in your BIOS (set as the main boot drive) if you have multiple disks connected.

One thing I forgot too, if you get a SSD one day, make sure SATA mode in your BIOS is set to AHCI to get the best performance out of it. Even for standard HDD using AHCI gives better performance. However, changing to AHCI in BIOS without reinstalling Windows will give you a BSOD. You need to add the AHCI driver in Windows first to avoid a blue screen on reboot.
 
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Yeah I know, if you're still satisfied with the performance of your current OS and feel it didn't slow down too much over the years, you could try to clone it to your new drive. I understand that right now you'll go with HDD temporarily until you have more money to buy a big SSD. So this time you could use an imaging software to clone your OS to the new HDD. But when you'll get the SSD, I definitely recommend a clean Windows install.
 
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i still didnt understand the cloning process, after some googling seems different software use different way of cloning
just let me watch/read more article/video of cloning process

i actually fine with reinstalling everything, the major shit is the game that need to be downloaded to install and some big update for my software, that is the real pain + my slow internet connection

i do feel my pc is a little slow now, and im quite sure the only things that make it happen due to 95% of the hdd size is used and running with igpu, or i will try to find way to just copy those update,download file so i can just reinstall window freshly

and i just use this pc for about 5 month, still fresh

when i hit the 750gb mark, changing to a ssd...
 
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i think i will do a clean install, installing games with update already solved, i will just use the transfer pc to pc method
next is to transfer adobe master+update to another hdd...
 
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