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$500 - $600 Micro ATX Build V.2

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August 3, 2013 12:57:56 AM

I previously made a thread about a micro ATX build but I never settled on purchasing anything until I felt I had money to spare. I feel ready to build one now.
I am going to build my computer using the recommended "Best value" list from Tomshardware.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1nHhO

Please help me pick the Mobo, GPU, and PSU.

I would like to spend the most on the GPU out of the three, thanks in advance.

EDIT: I don't plan on OCing, I mainly play Tera and TF2!
August 3, 2013 4:47:32 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1nIXL

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($77.97 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Biostar A780L3C Micro ATX AM3 Motherboard ($44.79 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Wintec Value 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($53.48 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($189.98 @ Outlet PC)
Case: HEC Enterprise MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.73 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $596.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-03 07:47 EDT-0400)
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August 3, 2013 6:38:47 AM

This is the best Micro ATX Build for the price. I mean it is a beast which can play most games at high 1080p well above 30 frames per second, so definitely get this build. It is a very good build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $596.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-03 09:37 EDT-0400)

I hope this helps. Is there anything else I can do for you?
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August 3, 2013 2:05:00 PM

How exactly do the Mail-in rebates work and which computer is better out of the two? Excluding Splinter Cell from being a factor? And is windows 8 hard to get used to or anything like that...? Would I be able to purchase these at a local NCIX (Canada) store?

EDIT: I don't plan on OC'ing and I only play Tera and TF2 :p 
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August 3, 2013 7:24:00 PM

Bechmarks between the i3 3220 and the Athlon II x4 640 :



Summary of the above results :



For Motherboard : MSI >> Biostar

RAM : 1600Mhz > 1333Mhz

Case : Fractal Design Core 1000 >>>> HEC Enterprise

GPU : AMD 7870 ≃ Nvidia 660 (They perform almost the same)


I hope this information helps.
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August 3, 2013 10:09:18 PM

Sangeet Khatri said:
Bechmarks between the i3 3220 and the Athlon II x4 640 :



Summary of the above results :



For Motherboard : MSI >> Biostar

RAM : 1600Mhz > 1333Mhz

Case : Fractal Design Core 1000 >>>> HEC Enterprise

GPU : AMD 7870 ≃ Nvidia 660 (They perform almost the same)


I hope this information helps.


Thanks, I'll settle for the I3-3220, Radeon 7870, fractal design, Msi and 1233 ram. People say the difference isn't big, so ill go with 1333 instead of 1600.

So what about mail in rebates and windows 8?
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August 3, 2013 10:34:55 PM

crossriver said:
Sangeet Khatri said:
Bechmarks between the i3 3220 and the Athlon II x4 640 :



Summary of the above results :



For Motherboard : MSI >> Biostar

RAM : 1600Mhz > 1333Mhz

Case : Fractal Design Core 1000 >>>> HEC Enterprise

GPU : AMD 7870 ≃ Nvidia 660 (They perform almost the same)


I hope this information helps.


Thanks, I'll settle for the I3-3220, Radeon 7870, fractal design, Msi and 1233 ram. People say the difference isn't big, so ill go with 1333 instead of 1600.

So what about mail in rebates and windows 8?


Well.. there is not much difference in gaming but there is surely some difference in other things (saving documents, and other general purpuse things). So since the 1600Mhz is just like 50 dollars expensive, so definitely get it. It is a sweet spot for RAM.

And about Mail In Rebates, I really have no real idea as I live in India and there is nothing like this here, soy you should better ask someone who is from USA. They might know something about it.

As for now, I guess Mail-In-Rebates is something like the money that we get back as refund or some online balance to spend on other parts. If it is the latter then get the parts with Mail In Rebates first and then spend the collected balance to buy other parts. You know what I mean..

Anyways, these are just estimates, someone living in the USA might have a better idea about what they mean. So, you should better ask them about it.

About Windows 8, all I can say is that it is just fine according to me. It is not as bad as everyone is trying to make it look like. I mean it is just fine. Just ignore the metro stuff and it is just Windows 7 and is faster.

Anyways to know if Windows 8 is for you or not, just check out the reviews on Youtube. Also a new revsion of Windows 8 is coming which I also find is very good and much more fit for desktop, so you might want to consider having a newer version of Windows. My recommendation would be Windows 8, but that might vary according to Individual preferences.

I hope this helps. Is there anything else I can help you in?
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August 4, 2013 3:38:00 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
crossriver said:
Sangeet Khatri said:
Bechmarks between the i3 3220 and the Athlon II x4 640 :



Summary of the above results :



For Motherboard : MSI >> Biostar

RAM : 1600Mhz > 1333Mhz

Case : Fractal Design Core 1000 >>>> HEC Enterprise

GPU : AMD 7870 ≃ Nvidia 660 (They perform almost the same)


I hope this information helps.


Thanks, I'll settle for the I3-3220, Radeon 7870, fractal design, Msi and 1233 ram. People say the difference isn't big, so ill go with 1333 instead of 1600.

So what about mail in rebates and windows 8?


Well.. there is not much difference in gaming but there is surely some difference in other things (saving documents, and other general purpuse things). So since the 1600Mhz is just like 50 dollars expensive, so definitely get it. It is a sweet spot for RAM.

And about Mail In Rebates, I really have no real idea as I live in India and there is nothing like this here, soy you should better ask someone who is from USA. They might know something about it.

As for now, I guess Mail-In-Rebates is something like the money that we get back as refund or some online balance to spend on other parts. If it is the latter then get the parts with Mail In Rebates first and then spend the collected balance to buy other parts. You know what I mean..

Anyways, these are just estimates, someone living in the USA might have a better idea about what they mean. So, you should better ask them about it.

About Windows 8, all I can say is that it is just fine according to me. It is not as bad as everyone is trying to make it look like. I mean it is just fine. Just ignore the metro stuff and it is just Windows 7 and is faster.

Anyways to know if Windows 8 is for you or not, just check out the reviews on Youtube. Also a new revsion of Windows 8 is coming which I also find is very good and much more fit for desktop, so you might want to consider having a newer version of Windows. My recommendation would be Windows 8, but that might vary according to Individual preferences.

I hope this helps. Is there anything else I can help you in?


If I were to get all those parts, or similar parts from one local store, the price WOULDN'T be $600 right? maybe like $670? or are those prices similar elsewhere?
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August 4, 2013 5:46:56 AM

Yeah, local stores are generally higher but that depends from store to store. I mean if you live near a MicroCenter store then it has got the cheapest prices. So, there might be some stores like those.

Generally the prices of local stores are higher, but that cannot be said for every store out there. You know what I mean..
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August 4, 2013 5:57:40 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
Yeah, local stores are generally higher but that depends from store to store. I mean if you live near a MicroCenter store then it has got the cheapest prices. So, there might be some stores like those.

Generally the prices of local stores are higher, but that cannot be said for every store out there. You know what I mean..


What do you recommend, buying cheap and paying for shipping or just buying at a higher price.
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August 4, 2013 6:40:03 AM

What Shipping Charges?? The list I suggested you includes all the Discounts, Shipping Charges and everything and also you won't be able to get these discounts in the local shops. So for the same build you would have to pay like 100 dollars more. So it is better to pay the money and get Mail-In-Rebates instead and save a lot of money.

Also the last line of the list clearly mentions this thing :

Quote:
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


So, the price that you are seeing is after shipping and everything included, so it should not be a problem.

I hope this helps.
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August 4, 2013 6:42:47 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
What Shipping Charges?? The list I suggested you includes all the Discounts, Shipping Charges and everything and also you won't be able to get these discounts in the local shops. So for the same build you would have to pay like 100 dollars more. So it is better to pay the money and get Mail-In-Rebates instead and save a lot of money.

Also the last line of the list clearly mentions this thing :

Quote:
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


So, the price that you are seeing is after shipping and everything included, so it should not be a problem.

I hope this helps.


I assumed it was free shipping in America, are you sure it's free shipping internationally? I live in Canada.

EDIT: As my instincts told me... Amazon won't ship the CPU to my address.

Compatibility Notes
Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory operating voltage of 1.65V exceeds the Intel Ivy Bridge CPU recommended maximum of 1.5V+5% (1.575V). This memory module may run at a reduced clock rate to meet the 1.5V voltage recommendation, or may require running at a voltage greater than the Intel recommended maximum.

That's another thing... is that going to be a problem?
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August 4, 2013 7:22:38 AM

You should have mentioned that you live in Canada. I mean the prices are a bit different there.

Can you tell me your budget in Canadian Dollars. I mean Canada has also got a lot of online stores to buy from.

So tell me your budget in Canadian Dollars and I would plan a build that ships within Canada for the budget.
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August 4, 2013 7:25:21 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
You should have mentioned that you live in Canada. I mean the prices are a bit different there.

Can you tell me your budget in Canadian Dollars. I mean Canada has also got a lot of online stores to buy from.

So tell me your budget in Canadian Dollars and I would plan a build that ships within Canada for the budget.


I said I lived in Canada indirectly, I mentioned a local store in Canada. :( 
$600 Canadian dollars. xO
EDIT: $650 if shipping isn't free.
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August 4, 2013 8:35:40 AM

Well.. Similar build costs like 670 Canadian dollars..

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-GL R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.00 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ NCIX)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $675.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-04 11:29 EDT-0400)

So for under your budget you should go for the build below :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.00 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($159.99 @ NCIX)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $600.69
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-04 11:35 EDT-0400)

I hope this helps. Take a look and tell me what you think about it.
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August 4, 2013 8:43:46 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
Well.. Similar build costs like 670 Canadian dollars..

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-GL R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.00 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ NCIX)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $675.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-04 11:29 EDT-0400)

So for under your budget you should go for the build below :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.00 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($159.99 @ NCIX)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $600.69
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-04 11:35 EDT-0400)

I hope this helps. Take a look and tell me what you think about it.


Absolutely perfect! Thanks a lot. Could I switch the AMD II X4 965 with an i3-3220? If not, I will be buying that build!
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August 4, 2013 8:51:04 AM

No, you cannot. The i3 build uses a LGA 1155 socket motherboard while the AMD build uses an AM3+ socket which are miles different from each other. So, you cannot just use one CPU with a motherboard of another socket, so get the build you like.

The first build is just awesome but it is way above budget. If budget does not matter to you then go for the first one.
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August 4, 2013 8:54:40 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
No, you cannot. The i3 build uses a LGA 1155 socket motherboard while the AMD build uses an AM3+ socket which are miles different from each other. So, you cannot just use one CPU with a motherboard of another socket, so get the build you like.

The first build is just awesome but it is way above budget. If budget does not matter to you then go for the first one.


Okay, I'll go with the $600. Thanks again.
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