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Approximate Purchase Date: Somewhere in the next month

Budget Range: 1200-1600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, then entertainment

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, but any good website will do if cheaper

Country: U.S.A.

Parts Preferences: I would like to use the Intel/GeForce side of GPU, CPU, and Mobos, and I want to make sure I have a stable mobo

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No (if possible)

Monitor Resolution: uhmm...1080p? I want a gaming comp so I guess that's good.

Additional Comments: I'd like this to play games such as: Bioshock Infinite, Skyrim on max, Crysis 2 on max (or close), possibly the upcoming Watchdogs and AC4 on nice settings.
In addition I'd like to include a good gaming monitor and the Windows 7 OS in this budget.
I would like a case that is guaranteed to be sturdy too if possible.
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This is a build I was thinking of, but I am a TOTAL noob:
My Build

Thanks in advance for your criticism, especially on how the parts will gel and on what parts I chose, because I have NO idea what I'm doing.
 
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Sn1992-1361850

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get this


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver Ceramique 2 Tri-Linear 2.7g Thermal Paste ($2.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($177.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($122.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($63.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS239H-P 23.0" Monitor ($159.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $1485.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-03 04:45 EDT-0400)
 
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envy14tpe

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This system will play all games maxed out at 60+ fps on Ultra. (except Crysis 3)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($122.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($63.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor ($177.58 @ Newegg)
Total: $1515.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-03 05:17 EDT-0400)
 
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I really like this build you got here envy, but I have a couple questions:
-Should I get any thermal paste?
-I have a ton of Steam games, should I get a bigger SSD so I can play all of my downloaded games faster? (I dunno how SSDs and normal hard drives work together, I'm a laptop gamer originally)
-What advantage does a MSI have over an EVGA GPU? I heard EVGA was a better brand.
-Is the monitor you suggested better optimized for gaming?
It's ok if you can't answer all these, I'm just curious. Thank you so much!
 
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Sn1992-1361850

Sn1992-1361850

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Just check the built built above
And better get a mx4
My built has a good monitor with ips panel 5ms respnse time and 1080p this monitor is optimised for gaming
An ssd only decrease game and windows load time as well as copying time but will not have any benifit on downloading

 
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envy14tpe

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Yes, you need thermal paste. The Intel one isn't good for overclocking. Get this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-silver-thermal-paste-as535g

You could get a bigger SSD (180GB or so). I put my OS + programs + 2 favorite games on SSD (120GB) and everything else on HDD. Games don't load noticeably faster on a SSD. Use a HDD for music, videos, and some games. You can put games anywhere you want.

MSI has better cooling than EVGA and runs faster = more fps.

The monitor I chose is a 2ms TN panel monitor that is made for gaming. If you want an all around monitor then look for a 5ms IPS monitor. If your priority is gaming then I'd get the Asus 2ms monitor.
 
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Oh ok, that makes sense. Since I'm totally new to putting a computer together, how difficult is thermal paste? Also what about the motherboard that both builds chose? It didn't seem to have solid reviews, a few seemed to question its stability in booting and such. Or maybe I'm just overanalyzing.
 
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My build and Sn1992's build have good motherboards. The one I chose is just as good, but cheaper. It is good enough and won't have quality issues. If you bought a $60 mobo and wanted to overclock then you'd have stability issues, but at $130+ mobos you don't really have this issue. You're not over analyzing, you're just learning about something new and it's good to be cautious.

I'd follow the grain of rice rule. Add that much thermal paste and then put cooler on top. Don't overapply thermal paste, that could cause problems.
 
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Alrighty! Thank you both so much, you have both helped me so much in learning about this new subject, and in choosing a great build. I'll be ordering the arts soon, I am so excited! :)
 
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