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August 3, 2013 11:12:51 AM

Any threads that talk about noise comparison between H100i and CM 212 EVO?

I have most of my components figured out except the case and CPU cooler. I have one GPU and will overclock an i7-3770k to no more than 4.3GHz.

I'm thinking of either Obsidian 350D + H100i (probably overkill) or SS PS07 + CM 212 EVO? Which combo do you recommend.

I went to a local store and saw both cases, 350D and PS07, and really love the 350D, except the vent on the top, which makes me think I should use H100i with that. Can I use 350D + CM 212 EVO and leave the top as is?

I want a quiet system. Please be detailed in your answers. Thanks!
a b K Overclocking
August 3, 2013 11:22:17 AM

The Xigmatek Gaia cools within 1C of the Hyper212 EVO, but is up to 6db quieter (per Frostytech reviews). Since it is also typically $10 cheaper (more right now with a MIR), the CM is a bang/buck LOSER. I use Gaias on my systems, and they are essentially inaudible. Per HWMonitor, my hottest core has reached 46C (although I've not played any games yet today).
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a b K Overclocking
August 3, 2013 1:02:50 PM

I wouldn´t really suggest using the stock fans on the H100i anyway. At least not if you want a quiet system. Those things are loud!
If you are planning on getting an h100i (which is a great cooler) you might want to add two replacement fans to your card.
And yes, for the overall sum you could probably get around 3 212s. ;) 
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August 3, 2013 6:07:01 PM

Of course, if you're swapping fans around, the comparison is moot.
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August 3, 2013 8:11:08 PM

Som3one said:
I wouldn´t really suggest using the stock fans on the H100i anyway. At least not if you want a quiet system. Those things are loud!
If you are planning on getting an h100i (which is a great cooler) you might want to add two replacement fans to your card.
And yes, for the overall sum you could probably get around 3 212s. ;) 


Why would anyone pay > $100 for something and replace half the parts that already come with it? That would seem to defeat the purpose of buying something expensive in the first place...Anyway, I thought the stock fans would be quiet, but maybe not. If I am going to buy two additional fans, couldn't I just buy two quiet fans and install those on the 350D and forget about water cooling altogether? What fans are quiet?

Thanks
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a b K Overclocking
August 3, 2013 9:27:54 PM

Any low speed fans (e.g. 800RPM) fans will be quiet, even cheap ones. But then, they may not move enough air. You could always get faster fans and use a fan controller.
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August 3, 2013 10:30:46 PM

Onus said:
Any low speed fans (e.g. 800RPM) fans will be quiet, even cheap ones. But then, they may not move enough air. You could always get faster fans and use a fan controller.


Thanks Onus. If I got just a CPU cooler like CM 212 EVO, would that be sufficient along with the fans that come with the case Obsidian 350D, to keep my CPU cool enough for up to 4.4GHz OC? CPU = i7-3770k.

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a b K Overclocking
August 3, 2013 10:42:59 PM

I have the H100i with a 2500K overclocked to 4.5 Ghz. I keep the H100i on the quiet setting. Keeps my CPU cool and very quiet.
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a b K Overclocking
August 3, 2013 11:48:56 PM

murchak said:

Why would anyone pay > $100 for something and replace half the parts that already come with it?

Almost all AiO radiator fans are designed with performance as the top prority (the H220 is the exception here).

Maybe I was a bit harsh with what I said. What I really meant was: If you are planning on getting the H100i (or any other AiO cooler) you should test it. See how it handles temperatures at silent settings and see if it really is silent enough for you. If it isn´t, get another more quiet set of fans.
That could be a problem if you are on a tight budget.

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August 4, 2013 1:41:04 AM

Yes test it - play with money replacing parts for no reason when you could get something for one purchase and cheaper cost that performs better - Brilliant!!!!

look, I have no clue where that guy has been going for data lately, but Onus is dead on. at speeds of OC 4.3 (rather mid level OC) the 212 Evo will perform far quieter and just as cool as H100. and you dont have to spend $40 to replace fans for better quality. In fact if you really have money buring a hole in your pocket, $40 spent on fans on a 212 Evo will outperform an H100 any day of the week lol. AIO is a sorry excuse for water cooling, and for some reason often considered an answer to OC - it is far from. the Noctua NH-u14s is quieter than all the above, performs far better than all the above, and... oh look far cheaper than h100 too. If you really want to go water cooling, understand that water cooling is air cooling remote control. AIO are not designed for OC but a marketing gimmick. they will handle mid range OC, but often at the cost of noise. the point of water cooling is balance of silence and performance. So if not willing to go full custom to truly achieve this, go with a solid top end air cooler and achieve it far better than h100 or even NZXT x60

though given many recent posts, and recent join date, beginning to wonder if Som3one is a Corsair employee trying to boost monthly bonus check and failing stock prices LMAO... I mean why not Tom's sold out to Samsung recently, why not Corsair too
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a c 103 K Overclocking
August 4, 2013 1:51:12 AM

Som3one said:
Almost all AiO radiator fans are designed with performance as the top prority (the H220 is the exception here).


Yes that is why H220 outperforms H110/110 and only outperformed by kraken x60, and o look, only the x60 is quieter than h220 (which is quieter than h110 and h110 both), and o look h220 is discontinued by new set coming from swiftech in a few months. after all these threads you post this claim in, i challenge you yet again, where is the data to back it - google in 5secs will back Onus and I both
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a b K Overclocking
August 4, 2013 2:04:11 AM

What the hell is your problem?!

The question was which one would be more quiet and my answer was that the H100i is louder with stock fans and much more expensive than the Evo.
So, if I would be a Corsair employee I´d probably get fired.

And I am talking from experience when it comes to the coolers I´ve owned.

Go on trolling now.
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a b K Overclocking
August 4, 2013 10:35:17 AM

I was not recommending the Hyper212 EVO, but the [much] cheaper and quieter (which seems to be the goal) Xigmatek Gaia.
An OC of 4.3GHz, while respectable, probably wouldn't be considered "High," and does not need liquid cooling, whether AIO or Custom. The Hyper212 and Xigmatek families of coolers are all mid-range; they work well, but there are better. If you were willing to spend $100 on a decent AIO liquid cooler, then $60-$80 on a Noctua or Phanteks cooler seems entirely reasonable.
One point that should be made though, is that big air coolers add a lot of weight, can potentially stress a mobo (I wouldn't ship a system with one of these installed), and may block RAM slots and other features; CPU waterblocks (custom or AIO) don't have this problem, although you do need to make sure you have room for your radiator(s); more if it's a custom loop.
If a mid-range cooler is sufficient, the Xigmatek is the clear bang/buck winner over the Hyper212 EVO, yet it is not so huge that it will get in the way, with the possible exception of needing low-profile RAM on some boards.
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August 4, 2013 10:50:05 AM

Onus said:
I was not recommending the Hyper212 EVO, but the [much] cheaper and quieter (which seems to be the goal) Xigmatek Gaia.
An OC of 4.3GHz, while respectable, probably wouldn't be considered "High," and does not need liquid cooling, whether AIO or Custom. The Hyper212 and Xigmatek families of coolers are all mid-range; they work well, but there are better. If you were willing to spend $100 on a decent AIO liquid cooler, then $60-$80 on a Noctua or Phanteks cooler seems entirely reasonable.
One point that should be made though, is that big air coolers add a lot of weight, can potentially stress a mobo (I wouldn't ship a system with one of these installed), and may block RAM slots and other features; CPU waterblocks (custom or AIO) don't have this problem, although you do need to make sure you have room for your radiator(s); more if it's a custom loop.
If a mid-range cooler is sufficient, the Xigmatek is the clear bang/buck winner over the Hyper212 EVO, yet it is not so huge that it will get in the way, with the possible exception of needing low-profile RAM on some boards.


Thanks Onus.

My system will have i7-3770k sitting on Asus p8z77-m inside either an Obsidian 350D or SS pS07. I will at some point utilize all 4 ram slots, so I don't want a large CPU fan. But I'm okay with low profile ram sticks.

After reading the discussion here and other places online, I will not go for a water cooling solution because 4.2 - 4.3OC doesn't warrant it to begin with, and if I can keep my CPU cool with a solid fan, I'll use that. I don't plan to move around my PC once I install the CPU fan, so I understand the stress that a heavy CPU fan may cause to the mobo. As for the case fans, I think the Obsidian 350D comes with two fans already, and I can buy two low RPM 140mm fans (noise < 20dB) to cover the top mesh, or I suppose I can even leave it as is. At any rate, thank you and the others here for their input and discussion. I have a much better idea about what to do.




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a b K Overclocking
August 4, 2013 11:09:08 AM

Good, I'm glad we could help. I do recommend you add a single low-speed top fan; it made a big difference in my Fractal Design Define Mini, a m-ATX case built for quiet more than cooling.
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August 5, 2013 11:08:38 AM

Som3one said:
I wouldn´t really suggest using the stock fans on the H100i anyway. At least not if you want a quiet system. Those things are loud!
If you are planning on getting an h100i (which is a great cooler) you might want to add two replacement fans to your card.
And yes, for the overall sum you could probably get around 3 212s. ;) 


I agree 100%! I had the 212 EVO (one fan setup) and then I figured I heard about the h100i and decided to buy it when it was an awesome price at MicroCenter a few months back for $90 (regular - $130). Well I installed it and those damn stock Corsair fans were loud/annoying. So I put my 212 EVO back into my system (two fan setup this time) while I decided what fans I wanted to go with on the h100i.

I ended up with Noctua fans and they are awesome!
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a b K Overclocking
August 6, 2013 1:45:44 AM

They really are. ;) 
I never understood what the fuzz was all about until I got my first set.
Especially the wide rpm range is awesome!
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