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August 4, 2013 9:50:06 AM

Hi everyone! I've been tempted by a recent offer that is available as a bundle, the bundle contains a previous generation Ivy Bridge Core i5-3570 and ASRock Z77 Extreme 3 at the price of 269.99+Tax (CAD$ - After MIR/Instant rebates).

Core i5 -3570 Bundle

If I purchase this bundle, then my next product on the list is probably an SSD which seems to provide an overall performance boost.

I would like some opinions on the above price and system, my options are; upgrade my CPU/Mobo to the one above and hold off for a new GPU/Case/Others or purchase a GPU (AMD 7950 for around 280$) and replace my current 9800GT or wait out on everything.

My current system specs are:
AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition - OC'd to 3.7Ghz
Gigabyte 785GMT-UD2H
12GB DDR3 RAM
EVGA 9800GT - 1GB
Two 500GB HDDs
500W CoolerMaster PSU
CoolerMaster Elite 310 Case

My computer performs decently enough for me and I don't mind playing my games at medium settings. I am able to play a lot of current games at a satisfying quality/performance, apart from gaming, I spend a lot of my time doing computer/electrical engineering work.

Thanks guys!
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August 4, 2013 10:15:05 AM

I don't think you would get good value from that bundle.
The Z77 chipsets permits you to overclock a 3570K, but not a 3570.
With a 3570, you could use a cheaper motherboard.
Or... the 4570 haswell gives better cpu efficiency per clock.
Since your pc performs decently for you now, I really don't think a cpu upgrade will do that much for you.
For everyday use, a SSD is the most impressive upgrade. A Samsung 840 240gb ssd is now selling for about $175.
That is an upgrade you can notice.

If you were into playing fast action games, a $250 GTX760 might be a good upgrade.
But, from your description, I might suggest a more modest upgrade like a $170 GTX650ti.

If your apps are cpu bound, then a cpu upgrade might be in order.
Your X4 has a passmark rating of 4013.
a 3570 is 6993.
With a modest overclock, a 3570K should be about 20% better.
One way to test the sensitivity of your apps to cpu power is to remove your overclock and see how much your app performance is impacted. If the impact is significant, then more cpu power is in order.
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August 4, 2013 10:35:28 AM

i would suggest to have a 3670k cpu for that bundle

it is no point getting a locked cpu in a z series overclocking board

if u cannot extend ur budget then get a b75 board for ur cpu


i wud suggest you to go for gtx 760 as it is at par with 7950 but at lesser price

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7950-vs-GeForce-GTX-7...
u can put the extra money towards a 3570k
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August 4, 2013 11:07:33 AM

I think I agree with your point of view, I doubt I would obtain a noticeable boost in performance for my applications.
They are CPU bound applications, but obtaining a few seconds (1-3s) when compiling or something doesn't warrant the upgrade.

The SSD seems to be the most useful upgrade, at least the most noticeable, faster loading and boot up times definitely help lower frustration levels and I would
be able to swap it between my laptop or other systems.

Unfortunately, the bundle is a fixed offer and as such I can't change the options. I have looked into the GTX 760 and it seems to be a great option as well.

I would like to point out that I am not in a situation where I am desperate for an upgrade or faster performance, I just feel that I deserve an upgrade at this point.
In order of priorities I think the SSD option should be first on the list, I would like to hear your opinions on that. Second on my list is the GPU, which would require an upgraded power supply and case.

A Samsung 840 250GB SSD is available for 170$ @ http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1...
The Samsung 840 PRO 128GB SSD is also available, for around 140$.

I'd like to point out that my current system would be going to my parents, at least the CPU/Mobo. That's if I go ahead with the CPU/Mobo upgrade.
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August 4, 2013 11:11:50 AM

If i were u i would get a gpu
A gpu wud give u boost in performance but the ssd would only reduce load timings
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August 4, 2013 11:32:08 AM

Sn1992 said:
If i were u i would get a gpu
A gpu wud give u boost in performance but the ssd would only reduce load timings


Ahh, sometimes I do feel that I need a new GPU. I think my current one is causing me BSOD (had one just now), it's most likely due to lack of power though.

Here are some options I have looked at for GPUs:

MSI 7950 3GB - 260$

EVGA GeForce GTX 760 Suplerclocked - 2GB - 270$

Zotac GeForce GTX 760 AMP! Edition 2GB - 270$

If you don't mind, I'd appreciate your opinion on a decently priced power supply as well. I think this would be the most important out of all upgrades, as my current one seems to under perform.

I have found the following PSUs that seem appealing:

ULTRA LSP750 750W - 60$

Thermaltake TR-700W - 70$

Sorry for the wall of text and all this trouble!
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August 4, 2013 11:36:15 AM

Get a gtx 760 its at par with 7950 but its cheaper so gtx 760 is best

Get a xfx 550w supply for 59$


Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
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August 4, 2013 11:43:18 AM

Sn1992 said:
Get a gtx 760 its at par with 7950 but its cheaper so gtx 760 is best

Get a xfx 550w supply for 59$


Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)



Thanks, I'll look into both of these items and decide whether to go through with the upgrade or not. I really appreciate the help both of you have given me, at least it helped me decide not to purchase the CPU/Mobo!

Update: Sorry, I can't seem to "pick the solution" for more than one person.
geofelt your help was great too, thanks a lot!
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August 4, 2013 12:02:58 PM

Glad it helped
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