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August 4, 2013 10:08:25 AM

Hello People,

I want to upgrade my computer to the highest it can be, I am willing to pay alot or consider a new computer, (but would prefer to just upgrade my current).

Here is all the system specs:

System Model: XPS 8300
Processor: Intel (R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.4Ghz (8 CPUs) ~ 3.4ghz
RAM 16gb (The max i have heard)
HardDrive 1TB.

Display: AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series,
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor
Approx. Total memory 741MB.





Im a designer and gamer and want to continue to play the best games and be able to edit big files, Can any1 suggest upgrades, or a affordable better performance machine?


Thanks.

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August 4, 2013 10:16:47 AM

new PSU and Video card and you'd be fine. How much money do you have?

There isn't really a reason to ditch your CPU and get a whole new PC, for what, so you can build the latest, an I7-4770? Not a big between that and your CPU now for the $300-$400 a new MB and CPU will cost you.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/287?vs=836
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August 4, 2013 10:25:27 AM

getochkn said:
new PSU and Video card and you'd be fine. How much money do you have?

There isn't really a reason to ditch your CPU and get a whole new PC, for what, so you can build the latest, an I7-4770? Not a big between that and your CPU now for the $300-$400 a new MB and CPU will cost you.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/287?vs=836


First of all thanks for replying,

I just want to upgrade it so its best or affordable best, What would you suggest?
I am not a techy i dont have any knowledge in hardware, I would like your advice,
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August 4, 2013 10:27:45 AM

Check out if your PSU has 2 6-pin PCI-E power conductor.

If your PSU has only one 6-pin: Then GTX-650 ti (boost) or HD 7700 series (7770/7790) is the best u could go without changing PSU.

If two, GTX 660/660 ti or HD 7800 series are the best for ya.

If u wanna go higher, u should buy a new 600W+ PSU for HD 7900 series or GTX 670/770 or higher gfx
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August 4, 2013 10:30:23 AM

^^ The Dell XPS do have decent PSU's with 2 PCI-e connections on it, although for a more powerful card, I would upgrade the PSU as well.


As for the poster, how much money do you want to spend?
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August 4, 2013 10:31:46 AM

getochkn said:
^^ The Dell XPS do have decent PSU's with 2 PCI-e connections on it, although for a more powerful card, I would upgrade the PSU as well.


As for the poster, how much money do you want to spend?


I would like to spend around $200-$400,
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August 4, 2013 10:34:30 AM

Maxime506 said:
Check out if your PSU has 2 6-pin PCI-E power conductor.

If your PSU has only one 6-pin: Then GTX-650 ti (boost) or HD 7700 series (7770/7790) is the best u could go without changing PSU.

If two, GTX 660/660 ti or HD 7800 series are the best for ya.

If u wanna go higher, u should buy a new 600W+ PSU for HD 7900 series or GTX 670/770 or higher gfx


Thanks ill consider it, mabe the HD 7800 then, Although i have no knowledge of how to actualy replace it, Im sure there are information i can look up,
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August 4, 2013 10:46:30 AM

According to the poster's gfx HD 6700 series I am sure the PSU has at least one 6-pin conductor.
If he's sure that his PSU has 2 connections, GTX 760 is his best choice.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42662k...

If only have one: HD 7790 is best:
1GB for not-so-heavy gaming: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100356...
or 2GB if for GTA V:http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr779...


If u wanna change PSU for future upgrade, XFX 650W PSU is a good choice:http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650xxxb...
(Then u don't need to worry if u go straight to GTX 780 w/ this PSU)
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August 4, 2013 10:52:49 AM

Maxime506 said:
According to the poster's gfx HD 6700 series I am sure the PSU has at least one 6-pin conductor.
If he's sure that his PSU has 2 connections, GTX 760 is his best choice.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42662k...

If only have one: HD 7790 is best:
1GB for not-so-heavy gaming: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100356...
or 2GB if for GTA V:http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr779...


If u wanna change PSU for future upgrade, XFX 650W PSU is a good choice:http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650xxxb...
(Then u don't need to worry if u go straight to GTX 780 w/ this PSU)


Is there a way to be absolutly sure without taking it apart? because i dont know what im looking at to be quite honist.
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August 4, 2013 10:58:20 AM

Just remove the side panel of your rig and u should see the inside parts and components.

If i'm not wrong, u could see the graphic card at the med-lower part of the rig. With a power conductor connected to it (it's a 6-pin one), then go find out if there is another 6-pin conductor unused.

Better take two picture and let us see. One is the inner of your rig, the other is the label of your PSU (u should easily find the label w/ some voltage and amp value on it)
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August 4, 2013 10:59:17 AM

Your PSU does have 2 PCI-e connectors, I have a dell XPS 8000 series desktop myself. The problem is, it's not the super best PSU in the world. It's decent, Dell uses better PSU's in their XPS line than their other ones, but I would still get a new one if I was getting out of the 77xx series and into the 78xx series.
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August 4, 2013 11:06:38 AM

getochkn said:
Your PSU does have 2 PCI-e connectors, I have a dell XPS 8000 series desktop myself. The problem is, it's not the super best PSU in the world. It's decent, Dell uses better PSU's in their XPS line than their other ones, but I would still get a new one if I was getting out of the 77xx series and into the 78xx series.


So i cant just buy a new graphics card like Maxime Suggests?,

That would mean i would have to buy both a new psu and graphics card yes? How does the PSU effect my computer, Im a real rookie and i just want it to run at its height for my designing and gaming.

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August 4, 2013 11:59:23 AM

Technically yes u could just buy a gfx and plug in. But since i'm not very sure about your PSU so it would be nice if u provides us more detail about your PSU. Of course buying a new HD 7790 or GTX 650 ti boost is more conservative but may not maximize the performance. Since u got an i7 CPU at least GTX 660 or HD 7800/7900 series gfx can squeeze the max out, but both gfx may need more power supply (they all require two 6-pin conductors or better, recommend at least 500W/600W PSU)
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August 4, 2013 1:25:45 PM

Maxime506 said:
Technically yes u could just buy a gfx and plug in. But since i'm not very sure about your PSU so it would be nice if u provides us more detail about your PSU. Of course buying a new HD 7790 or GTX 650 ti boost is more conservative but may not maximize the performance. Since u got an i7 CPU at least GTX 660 or HD 7800/7900 series gfx can squeeze the max out, but both gfx may need more power supply (they all require two 6-pin conductors or better, recommend at least 500W/600W PSU)


Okay so i took a look, and took these 2 pics, I tihnk its 385 W my PSU, the picture should show that, i dont have a clue what im looking at so i tried to get everything in, Take a look and see if that helps,

I just want the best solution to an upgrade



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August 4, 2013 2:14:44 PM

First thanks for your pictures.

It looks like your psu is a 3-rail 12V output design. The total amps of the three 12V rails are 42. So as GTX 760 has 170W TDP and gfx are supplied w/ 12V rail(s) power output it may draw about 15-18 amps, as your CPU has 95W TDP, your other parts has around 100W, so your PSU is moderately enough to power up gfx like GTX 660/660ti/760 or HD 7800(7850/7870) series.

Still because of the angle I could not see what exactly the power line to your PSU. Here is a simple way to help. Unplug the power connection of the graphic card, and find out if there is another power line from your PSU is EXACTLY the same as the one u unplug. Both of these power conductor should has 6 pins.
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August 4, 2013 2:26:23 PM

I have nearly the same PSU, 460W version as above and it has 2 PCI-e connections.
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August 4, 2013 2:48:39 PM

Maxime506 said:
First thanks for your pictures.

It looks like your psu is a 3-rail 12V output design. The total amps of the three 12V rails are 42. So as GTX 760 has 170W TDP and gfx are supplied w/ 12V rail(s) power output it may draw about 15-18 amps, as your CPU has 95W TDP, your other parts has around 100W, so your PSU is moderately enough to power up gfx like GTX 660/660ti/760 or HD 7800(7850/7870) series.

Still because of the angle I could not see what exactly the power line to your PSU. Here is a simple way to help. Unplug the power connection of the graphic card, and find out if there is another power line from your PSU is EXACTLY the same as the one u unplug. Both of these power conductor should has 6 pins.


I tried to do what you said but i am honistly ignorant to this, I followed the wire up to the graphics card and they all joined into the card but i didnt know if i could pull the connector out, it wasnt budging easily so i didnt want to force it, I have taken 2 more images which may help a little? I hope. If not ill try get someone who knows more thne me to look at it,



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August 4, 2013 4:18:14 PM

Man, I appreciate your diligency but none of the photos are of the graphic card. First pic is mainly HDD part and second is mainly PSU. U'd better take the picture of the graphic card which could help.

And if u couldn't even disconnect the graphic card, how dare could u change/upgrade it? U could ask some of your computer savvy friend for help if u'r so not sure. Usually OEM pre-build machines have higher quality requirement of their rigs and every port is tightly connected, so there is no way that it will be budged easily.
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August 4, 2013 11:20:51 PM

Maxime506 said:
Man, I appreciate your diligency but none of the photos are of the graphic card. First pic is mainly HDD part and second is mainly PSU. U'd better take the picture of the graphic card which could help.

And if u couldn't even disconnect the graphic card, how dare could u change/upgrade it? U could ask some of your computer savvy friend for help if u'r so not sure. Usually OEM pre-build machines have higher quality requirement of their rigs and every port is tightly connected, so there is no way that it will be budged easily.


K i re-took two more photos, I actualy cant see it having two but there is a small slot beside the card, take a look now,









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August 5, 2013 7:40:23 AM

Your GPU is fine but if your gonna upgrade it the rest of the people are right, you need a better psu
Your CPU is perfect, anything higher than what you have will make no big difference at all
But for max performance i would consider you getting a 250gb ssd. (samsung 840 = $160) or any kind of ssd if possible
or & you can get a hybrid which opens up prgrams just as fast as ssd. and it cost a few extra dollars than hdd. (read/write speed are slow) since you are editing, rendering will be faster with ssd.
only get trusted psu brands such as Corsair OCZ or Seasonic. Get a modular if your into cable management. 750watts should be around $105
And Radeon 7850 is faster than your current and costs around $250. 7870 is a bit more expensive around $280. and get any 7900 series for a increase in performance but it costs in the $300 & up line. but again 7850 will still give you ultra with 60+ frames in bf3.
160+105+250=515... over you budget. You can get a corsair 500 watts Corsair for $50 and u can save $50. but its not futureproof. any higher gpu you have to change psu. I suggest you keep the SSD and you could lower your GPU but it wont do 60+ frames in bf3 if your gonna save $$. so again
Samsung 840 ssd 250gb
Radeon 7850
750watts corsair/seasonic psu
=$515 this is what i recomend

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August 5, 2013 8:08:26 AM

Man, HD 7850 is only around 140-150 bucks and HD 7870 is around 180-200 bucks in US. Don't scare the poster.

For @Flewdesigns: The small slot may be a pci x1 slot, if u don't have dedicated network adapter or sth the slot is useless. AgentTurtle is right for some points such as the performance of HD 7800 series but still your PSU is not that bad, it could handle HD 7790 easily and HD 7800 series or even GTX 760 if u could find out how many 6-pin connections u have.

But if u don't mind, get a corsair, XFX or Seasonic 750W modular PSU (Such high-end PSU is surely has two 6-pin or two 6+2 pin power conductor to support high end GPU like HD 7970 or GTX 780) if u'r really not sure about your PSU. As an OEM PSU u could try to sell it at a moderate price.
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August 5, 2013 8:19:53 AM

who cares about pin connectors, He's getting a new PSU one way or another. And all good PSU has enough pin connectors for any good GPU.
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August 5, 2013 8:21:37 AM

Maxime506 said:
Man, HD 7850 is only around 140-150 bucks and HD 7870 is around 180-200 bucks in US. Don't scare the poster.

For @Flewdesigns: The small slot may be a pci x1 slot, if u don't have dedicated network adapter or sth the slot is useless. AgentTurtle is right for some points such as the performance of HD 7800 series but still your PSU is not that bad, it could handle HD 7790 easily and HD 7800 series or even GTX 760 if u could find out how many 6-pin connections u have.

But if u don't mind, get a corsair, XFX or Seasonic 750W modular PSU (Such high-end PSU is surely has two 6-pin or two 6+2 pin power conductor to support high end GPU like HD 7970 or GTX 780) if u'r really not sure about your PSU. As an OEM PSU u could try to sell it at a moderate price.


Would the HD 7800 be significantly better then the 6700 i currently have? will i notice differences, is it worth it?
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August 5, 2013 8:31:21 AM

Yup. HD 6700 is obsolete now. HD 7750, using GCN architecture, beats 80W HD 6770 now. So HD 7850 is much stronger than HD 7750, the answer is clearer than ever.

Also u would significantly notice the difference esp when u play large games in high/max settings. For only 150 bucks around, HD 7850 proves its value. (and HD 7870 even outperforms GTX 660)
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August 5, 2013 8:32:38 AM

Maxime506 said:
Yup. HD 6700 is obsolete now. HD 7750, using GCN architecture, beats 80W HD 6770 now. So HD 7850 is much stronger than HD 7750, the answer is clearer than ever.

Also u would significantly notice the difference esp when u play large games in high/max settings. For only 150 bucks around, HD 7850 proves its value. (and HD 7870 even outperforms GTX 660)


So i wont have to replace the PSU for that? If so ill purchase the 7870,

Could you suggest the best one for me? The radeon i presume?

this one?? http://www.amazon.co.uk/VTX3D-Radeon-7870-Tahiti-Graphi...
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August 5, 2013 8:35:48 AM

If u could find out two 6-pin conductors so it's sure u won't change the PSU. @getochkn may already give u the answer so prove it and get HD 7850/7870 and rock'n'roll.
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August 5, 2013 8:36:55 AM

i wish i could copy and paste the link but my trackpad is kinda broken. Anything just dont get powercolor. I suggest xfx double D cause i have it too. It cool great and doesnt overheat. But anything to your preference is fine
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August 5, 2013 8:42:18 AM

XFX double D has great warranty, and forgot to mention it is super quiet with 2 fans. I have 2 of them crossfire and it is just amazing giving me fps i could never imagine getting like 100+ for bf3 ULTRA
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August 5, 2013 8:44:17 AM

Here is HD 7850 (Version 1GB): http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-fx785aznl4
(Version 2GB if u plan to play in very high res or play the coming GTA V): http://pcpartpicker.com/part/his-video-card-h785f2g2m

HD 7870 (2GB): http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r78702gd5to...

Change the country settings to UK and u could see the price in your country.
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August 5, 2013 8:52:10 AM

2gb will slightly increase performance but 1gb will do more than enough. The only time i would suggest 2gb GPU is when you have a big monitor screen or dual monitor. but for dual monitor i would recommend on crossfire.
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August 5, 2013 8:56:51 AM

Maxime506 said:
If u could find out two 6-pin conductors so it's sure u won't change the PSU. @getochkn may already give u the answer so prove it and get HD 7850/7870 and rock'n'roll.


Maxime506 said:
Here is HD 7850 (Version 1GB): http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-fx785aznl4
(Version 2GB if u plan to play in very high res or play the coming GTA V): http://pcpartpicker.com/part/his-video-card-h785f2g2m

HD 7870 (2GB): http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r78702gd5to...

Change the country settings to UK and u could see the price in your country.


Just checked its definetly 2 6 pins, There was a lead with 6 holes in the end in the graphics card and the same connector on a different line sitting loosely on the graphics card, Sorry im stupid at this haha =) but ye its 2 6 pin connectors, Okay the radeon hd 7870 it is then! looks like this is resolved!

So this one you suggested will definetly be able to run on my computer? http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r78702gd...
Sorry i just want absolute confirmation, I dont want to get it and it dosnt work.
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August 5, 2013 8:58:39 AM

Im just saying you can be my first best answer ever.... Happy to assist Maxime506 to assist you. Have fun with your new GPU
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August 5, 2013 8:59:44 AM

Green AgentTurtle said:
2gb will slightly increase performance but 1gb will do more than enough. The only time i would suggest 2gb GPU is when you have a big monitor screen or dual monitor. but for dual monitor i would recommend on crossfire.


I have duel monitors too,
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August 5, 2013 9:00:33 AM

2gb will give you the best. Or crossfire in the future
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August 5, 2013 9:03:20 AM

I would still recommend SSD
And also remember to upgrade your PSU first. if your psu dies it might kill some, most or all of your computer component
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August 5, 2013 9:08:39 AM

Green AgentTurtle said:
I would still recommend SSD
And also remember to upgrade your PSU first. if your psu dies it might kill some, most or all of your computer component


I dont want to have to get a new PSU, SSD, AND graphics card...

I would just rather be safe with the card alone, Do you think it will take it?, it runs my 6700 at the moment,.
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August 5, 2013 9:13:38 AM

no way your psu can take a 7850. 500 watts minimum.
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August 5, 2013 9:16:26 AM

it even says on the GPU description ----> 500 watts minimum
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August 5, 2013 9:17:28 AM

Green AgentTurtle said:
it even says on the GPU description ----> 500 watts minimum


Okay so yes to what i said?
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August 5, 2013 9:17:32 AM

Yea thats perfect but its minimum.Any more upgrades you HAVE to buy a better psu though
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August 5, 2013 9:20:41 AM

a 650 would do good too but 750 will do enough.
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August 5, 2013 9:24:38 AM

Green AgentTurtle said:
a 650 would do good too but 750 will do enough.


Green AgentTurtle said:
you are ready to install your gpu :D 


Great, both you and Maxime have been the best of help.
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August 5, 2013 9:25:38 AM

Glad to assist!! message me for any more questions
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August 5, 2013 9:28:05 AM

Green AgentTurtle said:
Glad to assist!! message me for any more questions


I wanted to put you and maxime as best solution! you both helped alot, But maxime helped me alot with the looking for certain parts and finding cards,

Thank you both for you help,
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August 5, 2013 9:34:10 AM

FlewDesigns said:
Green AgentTurtle said:
Glad to assist!! message me for any more questions


I wanted to put you and maxime as best solution! you both helped alot, But maxime helped me alot with the looking for certain parts and finding cards,

Thank you both for you help,

yea i get it. i said earlier that my trackpad wont allow me to copy paste cause its broken. But its fine. Remember to overclock you GPU for max performance.

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August 5, 2013 9:35:04 AM

Green AgentTurtle said:
FlewDesigns said:
Green AgentTurtle said:
Glad to assist!! message me for any more questions


I wanted to put you and maxime as best solution! you both helped alot, But maxime helped me alot with the looking for certain parts and finding cards,

Thank you both for you help,

yea i get it. i said earlier that my trackpad wont allow me to copy paste cause its broken. But its fine. Remember to overclock you GPU for max performance.



Overclock? hu?? Im honistly a rookie how would i do that?
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August 5, 2013 9:36:03 AM

FlewDesigns said:
Green AgentTurtle said:
FlewDesigns said:
Green AgentTurtle said:
Glad to assist!! message me for any more questions


I wanted to put you and maxime as best solution! you both helped alot, But maxime helped me alot with the looking for certain parts and finding cards,

Thank you both for you help,

yea i get it. i said earlier that my trackpad wont allow me to copy paste cause its broken. But its fine. Remember to overclock you GPU for max performance.



Overclock? hu?? Im honistly a rookie how would i do that?

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