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August 4, 2013 3:52:11 PM

After seeing this video: http://youtu.be/dmGWyAyO9mc
I assumed that I had made the best choice in getting the Sapphire Boost Dual-X 7950 for £217 (PC Part Prices are ridiculous here in the UK but anyway) compared to the 760 (between £227 and £249) but when scanning through the various forum posts the general consensus favours the 760. Just wondering whether it would have made all the difference to go for the 760 or not.

Also, What about the HD 9000 Series, should I have waited for them? (I had no idea they were this year anyway)

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August 4, 2013 4:11:43 PM

HD 9000 series is quite long away. U could only consider HD 8000 series which are expected to launch in 2014. Currently some HD 8000 series in some OEM pre-build machines or laptops are just for OEM use only or revised version of HD 7000 series GPUs.

Technically GTX 760 and HD 7950 are roughly on par, maybe GTX 760 is slightly better but just for several fps higher. Plus HD 7950 has larger video memory and wider memory bandwidth which has advantage for some GPU demanding games esp. GTA V
August 4, 2013 4:15:34 PM

Maxime506 said:
HD 9000 series is quite long away. U could only consider HD 8000 series which are expected to launch in 2014. Currently some HD 8000 series in some OEM pre-build machines or laptops are just for OEM use only or revised version of HD 7000 series GPUs.

Technically GTX 760 and HD 7950 are roughly on par, maybe GTX 760 is slightly better but just for several fps higher. Plus HD 7950 has larger video memory and wider memory bandwidth which has advantage for some GPU demanding games esp. GTA V


So I haven't really misses out with the 7950 over the 760, great!

I mentioned the HD 9000 series because of this: http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/186605/radeon-hd-9000...
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August 4, 2013 4:17:11 PM

...and the 7950 will OC very well.
-Bruce

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August 4, 2013 4:18:47 PM
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I think both cards are about equal. The 760 may get a few fps more in one game and the 7950 may get a few fps more in another game.
I may be wrong but I think the 7950 overclocks better.
The 760 allows Nvidia PhysX for games that support it.
August 4, 2013 4:18:58 PM

dish_moose said:
...and the 7950 will OC very well.
-Bruce


Yeh, I noticed that too, which was why I picked Dual-X Boost over the Vapor-X Card.
August 4, 2013 4:23:55 PM

Pavel Pokidaylo said:
I think both cards are about equal. The 760 may get a few fps more in one game and the 7950 may get a few fps more in another game.
I may be wrong but I think the 7950 overclocks better.
The 760 allows Nvidia PhysX for games that support it.


Hmmm, OC ability seems a better trait to have than PhysX. Good to know that I've picked the better card for my purposes (extra performance (OC) > extra detail (PhysX)).
August 4, 2013 4:24:25 PM

I got the Sapphire Flex 7950. I only have one monitor so don't need Flex but it had good reviews so I got it. Techpowerup.com says they could only go as high as 1025 on the core of the Flex card but I can raise mine even to 1150 and it won't crash. I'm new to overclocking though and the noise that starts happening scares me but I think thats the fans. I don't touch voltage, I just raise the power to 20% in CCC.
August 4, 2013 4:28:09 PM

Pavel Pokidaylo said:
I got the Sapphire Flex 7950. I only have one monitor so don't need Flex but it had good reviews so I got it. Techpowerup.com says they could only go as high as 1025 on the core of the Flex card but I can raise mine even to 1150 and it won't crash. I'm new to overclocking though and the noise that starts happening scares me but I think thats the fans.


Yeh, it seems very much hit and miss, I'm yet to overclock but I'll look into it soon. It's gunna be nerve-racking though, hate the thought of breaking my card...
August 4, 2013 4:37:01 PM



This is what I mean, conflicting reviews/benchmarks. As far as I can tell they are as good as each other, and with the 7950 being a very good overclocker, I'm pretty sure I've made the better choice for my preferences (Overclocking Potential > Extra Details (PhysX)).
August 4, 2013 4:39:14 PM

From what I've been told the two things that could mess up your card are Voltage and raising the clocks too high too fast.
I don't touch Voltage. CCC doesn't even have that option.
I don't touch the memory anymore because it doesn't seem to give me any boost in performance at all.
When I first got the card I raised the core to max (1200) and Memory to max (1525) or so. Started playing Tomb Raider and it froze on me and wouldn't let me do anything until I closed Tomb Raider. I think it froze because I raised the core all the way to 1200 and didn't touch the voltage. Another thing is when you overclock your card will get hotter. When I tried to overclock another time I raised the core and memory together and noticed the card was getting a lot hotter than normal. When it got to 83 degrees I set it back to default.

From my experience raising the memory doesn't give you much and makes the card run a lot hotter. If you are going to OC I would suggest raising the power to 20% and increasing the core clock a little bit at a time until you find a speed you like and are comfortable with. Then play a game and if it doesn't crash after an hour you should be good to go.
August 4, 2013 4:42:11 PM

Pavel Pokidaylo said:
From what I've been told the two things that could mess up your card are Voltage and raising the clocks too high too fast.
I don't touch Voltage. CCC doesn't even have that option.
I don't touch the memory anymore because it doesn't seem to give me any boost in performance at all.
When I first got the card I raised the core to max (1200) and Memory to max (1525) or so. Started playing Tomb Raider and it froze on me and wouldn't let me do anything until I closed Tomb Raider. I think it froze because I raised the core all the way to 1200 and didn't touch the voltage. Another thing is when you overclock your card will get hotter. When I tried to overclock another time I raised the core and memory together and noticed the card was getting a lot hotter than normal. When it got to 83 degrees I set it back to default.

From my experience raising the memory doesn't give you much and makes the card run a lot hotter. If you are going to OC I would suggest raising the power to 20% and increasing the core clock a little bit at a time until you find a speed you like and are comfortable with. Then play a game and if it doesn't crash after an hour you should be good to go.


A little bit at a time does seem to be the best way to go. I think I'll use a gpu stress test, then once I find the peak, I'll go into some Battlefield and see how it holds up.
August 4, 2013 4:46:39 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
I have not seen any conflicting results unless the site hand picked just a small amount of games ... the results I have seen have been very consistent. When you consider frame latency, even w/ the new 13.8 drivers, the spread gets a bit wider.

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4525/11/nvidia-geforce-...
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4525/21/nvidia-geforce-...
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4525/23/nvidia-geforce-...



I meant it conflicted with the video I linked in the first post about the 760's 1080p Performance where it lost to the 7950 every time.
August 4, 2013 4:57:24 PM

What I like about techpowerup is that they test the cards on 18 different games. You can check the fps of the 760 vs the 7950 in all of them.
In most of the games the 760 does get a few more fps. You can also check the different overclocks they did for the different brands.
You probably know this already but the 7950 has 3 gigs of memory and a wider memory bus than the 760 which may translate into better performance in the future.

I ran Crysis 3 on my 7950 and it was great. I see all these graphs on how all these cards get low fps in that game. The 7950 is supposed to get 34fps with max settings and no AA. I played the game with max settings and 2X SMAA and got a constant 60fps without any overclocking. The only thing I had to turn down is the shadows from Very high to High. I didn't see any visual difference from turning down the shadows. I even tried turning them down to low and still saw no difference.

I bought the 7950 about 2 weeks prior to the release of the 700 series. If the 700 series was out at that time I would have probably ordered the 760 because it would be 50 bucks cheaper and would have replaced the 7950 in the best gpu for money page.
That being said, I don't regret getting the 7950 and not the 760 because I don't think they are much different.
Now if the 770 was out at the time I may have ordered that instead :) 
August 4, 2013 4:59:48 PM

Yea Vlat I've watched that video a few times also. I've used it to backup my claim but it was shot down immediately. People say Linus favors AMD and that's why the 7950 beats the 760 in his videos. Linus does do the reviews and benchmarks with all the cards overclocked though so that may be a factor in the 7950s upper hand.
August 4, 2013 5:01:04 PM

Pavel Pokidaylo said:
What I like about techpowerup is that they test the cards on 18 different games. You can check the fps of the 760 vs the 7950 in all of them.
In most of the games the 760 does get a few more fps. You can also check the different overclocks they did for the different brands.
You probably know this already but the 7950 has 3 gigs of memory and a wider memory bus than the 760 which may translate into better performance in the future.

I ran Crysis 3 on my 7950 and it was great. I see all these graphs on how all these cards get low fps in that game. The 7950 is supposed to get 34fps with max settings and no AA. I played the game with max settings and 2X SMAA and got a constant 60fps without any overclocking. The only thing I had to turn down is the shadows from Very high to High. I didn't see any visual difference from turning down the shadows. I even tried turning them down to low and still saw no difference.

I bought the 7950 about 2 weeks prior to the release of the 700 series. If the 700 series was out at that time I would have probably ordered the 760 because it would be 50 bucks cheaper and would have replaced the 7950 in the best gpu for money page.
That being said, I don't regret getting the 7950 and not the 760 because I don't think they are much different.
Now if the 770 was out at the time I may have ordered that instead :) 


This proves that no matter how many stats and graphs you read, it really comes down to the card you have bought. But a 770, now that would have been great, but it's an extra £100 :/ 
August 4, 2013 5:03:56 PM

Pavel Pokidaylo said:
Yea Vlat I've watched that video a few times also. I've used it to backup my claim but it was shot down immediately. People say Linus favors AMD and that's why the 7950 beats the 760 in his videos. Linus does do the reviews and benchmarks with all the cards overclocked though so that may be a factor in the 7950s upper hand.


If that is overclocked then that looks pretty good for the 7950. I would have thought Linus would be pro-Nvidia as they were his "Official Graphics Partner" at some stage and I think he had Nvidia in his personal build too.
August 4, 2013 5:05:45 PM

Yea I really like the performance I get from the 7950 for the most part. I can play practically any game at max settings and get really high fps.
But I want more. I want to be able to play any game at max settings and never see my fps dip from 60 lol. I'm thinking about adding a second 7950. It's either that or sell the 7950 and get a 770 or 7970 ghz ... or two :) 
August 4, 2013 5:11:02 PM

Pavel Pokidaylo said:
Yea I really like the performance I get from the 7950 for the most part. I can play practically any game at max settings and get really high fps.
But I want more. I want to be able to play any game at max settings and never see my fps dip from 60 lol. I'm thinking about adding a second 7950. It's either that or sell the 7950 and get a 770 or 7970 ghz ... or two :) 


You've only had it a month or so and you already want to upgrade O_o It's the curse of the freedom to upgrade, once you've bought one card, it still plays in the back of your mind that you want even better performance xD
August 4, 2013 5:18:27 PM

It's because of the FPS dips I see in some games. Witcher 2 for example, sometimes the fps drops from 60 to 40. I know the game caters to Nvidia but still. I don't like to see any stutter or lag or w.e you wanna call it. I want to have perfectly smooth gameplay and I'm willing to invest.
I thought I could get it from one 7950 because I wasn't too familiar with the higher end cards. Like I said it's great for the most part and it may be someones dream performance but I need more. Besides, it's just another 300 bucks to add a second 7950. My Cable/Internet/Phone bill is more than that lol
August 4, 2013 5:26:41 PM

Pavel Pokidaylo said:
It's because of the FPS dips I see in some games. Witcher 2 for example, sometimes the fps drops from 60 to 40. I know the game caters to Nvidia but still. I don't like to see any stutter or lag or w.e you wanna call it. I want to have perfectly smooth gameplay and I'm willing to invest.
I thought I could get it from one 7950 because I wasn't too familiar with the higher end cards. Like I said it's great for the most part and it may be someones dream performance but I need more. Besides, it's just another 300 bucks to add a second 7950. My Cable/Internet/Phone bill is more than that lol


Chances are a card upgrade won't happen for me for a few years or so, Battlefield 4 is supposedly going to be about the same graphics wise so that's fine and after that I'll just have to tone the graphic settings down and deal with it xD
August 4, 2013 6:46:20 PM

Yea it will still be good. I just want to be able to play any game with maxed out settings and 60fps.
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