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August 4, 2013 4:30:36 PM

Alright. I'm kinda new to all of this but I need a new graphics card. My system is so old its obsolete! Here is a link to a page about my computer: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Docume... . That page should give you all the information you need. I need a new graphics card desperately. Oh and some more information about the computer; I replaced the hard drive with a new 1TB hard drive running Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit. I also replaced the cooling fan for the CPU as well. If anymore information is needed please tell me right away. thanks!

Edit: I also want a cheap but good one. I need one that can handle most standard Steam games like Team Fortress 2, Arma 2 Operation Arrowhead, Garry's Mod, and Grand Theft Auto IV. Thanks!

Edit: I think i found a good one! tell me if you think this will do: http://www.testfreaks.com/graphics-cards/zotac-geforce-... .
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August 4, 2013 6:32:21 PM

Not to many slimline cards that will work in there unless you change the psu.
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August 5, 2013 8:57:06 AM

cia24 said:
Not to many slimline cards that will work in there unless you change the psu.


Can you give me an example as to how this would work?
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August 6, 2013 11:25:30 AM

maith1 said:
byogamingpc said:
You might be able to make a Sapphire HD 7750 Low Profile http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0095MRLJ2/ref=as_li_q... work.


How would stuff not work? i would assume all video cards are universal, right? And is there a good on like that but under $100?



If you've got a slimline case you don't have a lot of space which means you'd have to get a card to fit. The 7750 Low Pro may fit. The card will work for sure but whether you can the the cover back on the case was the possible problem.
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August 8, 2013 9:44:18 PM

He's right about all of that. There seems to be a lot of restrictions regarding your OG PC. I would probably spend the 100 on a new mobo and RAM with integrated graphics and not waste another dime trying to stretch that thing out any longer. Seems like she's had a good run. Time to put her down. If anything I would wait for the 7730 to come out your still lookin at an open case but its supposed to be sub 100 probably pretty straight forward as well.
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August 10, 2013 12:23:36 PM

Alright sorry i have not been on in a while. I have figured something out. I believe my motherboard has 2 PCI ports (Regular PCI not PCI-Express which is pissing me off) and i need a video card to fit that. A link to the motherboard is here: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Docume...

So can anyone find one that will fit for under $75? (thats my budget). The case seems fairly large enough to fit something.

Edit: Has someone invented a small device that can plug into the PCI slot and convert it to PCI-E? If not, that would be a very helpful device for people all around the world. I would buy it i know that.

Edit: I am looking at this right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... .
It looks nice, is fairly cheapish, low profile, and has directx 11 support (what i wanted all along). Is this the one?
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August 11, 2013 1:57:39 AM

maith1 said:
Alright sorry i have not been on in a while. I have figured something out. I believe my motherboard has 2 PCI ports (Regular PCI not PCI-Express which is pissing me off) and i need a video card to fit that. A link to the motherboard is here: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Docume...

So can anyone find one that will fit for under $75? (thats my budget). The case seems fairly large enough to fit something.

Edit: Has someone invented a small device that can plug into the PCI slot and convert it to PCI-E? If not, that would be a very helpful device for people all around the world. I would buy it i know that.

Edit: I am looking at this right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... .
It looks nice, is fairly cheapish, low profile, and has directx 11 support (what i wanted all along). Is this the one?


http://www.ebay.com/bhp/pci-express-to-pci-adapter-card

Looking at everything no matter what you're not gonna be happy or satisfied with the results I'd take that 70 invest it into a new mobo then go after a 7730 or 7750 both cards would do reasonable with your cpu,ram, and psu. Anything else you'd really just going to be dumping money into a no win situation. Its MHO thats why no one else has really touched this thread. Im not trying to offend but its probably a $150 job to get it to run and no promises that it would run satisfactory. CPU is decent Ive seen worse, DDR2 ram is slow but I have a friend who is able to run some games like that. The problem is the budget you need to convert your PCI slot to PCIe around $25, and then a 7730(which I dont believe has come out yet) 7750-7770 radeon card. All which are not gonna be found unless used for less than $90 and that is a hard price to come by. It can be done but youre looking at investing more than you're budget allows. I do hope someone comes along and proves me wrong but its been a couple days since you've posted and I only see my and that other guys reply. Again I'd put that $70 in a new mobo with a PCIe slot. Get a couple more GB of RAM, Then buy a $100 GPU and you should be good to go. Other than that, save your money for a better rig.
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August 12, 2013 7:49:18 AM

danscan11 said:
maith1 said:
Alright sorry i have not been on in a while. I have figured something out. I believe my motherboard has 2 PCI ports (Regular PCI not PCI-Express which is pissing me off) and i need a video card to fit that. A link to the motherboard is here: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Docume...

So can anyone find one that will fit for under $75? (thats my budget). The case seems fairly large enough to fit something.

Edit: Has someone invented a small device that can plug into the PCI slot and convert it to PCI-E? If not, that would be a very helpful device for people all around the world. I would buy it i know that.

Edit: I am looking at this right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... .
It looks nice, is fairly cheapish, low profile, and has directx 11 support (what i wanted all along). Is this the one?


http://www.ebay.com/bhp/pci-express-to-pci-adapter-card

Looking at everything no matter what you're not gonna be happy or satisfied with the results I'd take that 70 invest it into a new mobo then go after a 7730 or 7750 both cards would do reasonable with your cpu,ram, and psu. Anything else you'd really just going to be dumping money into a no win situation. Its MHO thats why no one else has really touched this thread. Im not trying to offend but its probably a $150 job to get it to run and no promises that it would run satisfactory. CPU is decent Ive seen worse, DDR2 ram is slow but I have a friend who is able to run some games like that. The problem is the budget you need to convert your PCI slot to PCIe around $25, and then a 7730(which I dont believe has come out yet) 7750-7770 radeon card. All which are not gonna be found unless used for less than $90 and that is a hard price to come by. It can be done but youre looking at investing more than you're budget allows. I do hope someone comes along and proves me wrong but its been a couple days since you've posted and I only see my and that other guys reply. Again I'd put that $70 in a new mobo with a PCIe slot. Get a couple more GB of RAM, Then buy a $100 GPU and you should be good to go. Other than that, save your money for a better rig.


This is one of the best replies i have gotten yet. Its probably a good idea to get a new mobo but will it be able support all my new additions? Will I have to get a new processor? Will I have to get more new parts besides the ones I already have? I have a new hard drive (SATA), a CD/DVD drive (SATA), a 4 pin CPU Cooling fan, 2 240-pin (I believe) RAM, and I think that is it. Can someone suggest me a good one because I am a little busy. Thank you.
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August 12, 2013 11:56:47 PM

You have a good start. If your looking for a solid GPU one that wont strain your PSU, stick with the 7750 no extra plugs needed it plugs into your PCI slot only. With the Catalyst Control suite it makes it great for Movies and games. Your cpu is really like falling off a cliff solid performance a little slow but once you get into gaming it just falls off the edge and crashes. Its about $40 cpu for $85 you can get one thats as functional as an i3 which can handle team fortress and bf2-3; AMD Athlon X4 750k $85. With that in mind you'l need a mobo with a socket to fit that, GIGABYTE GA-F2A85XM-D3H FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard $80.00. Then you have ddr2 ram, you need ddr3 Kingston HyperX 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C10D3B1/8G this is 2x4GB stcks $55.00. Yeah a new psu unit is a must I didnt realize it was only 160w. You need at least a 350w psu I havent seen a modern rig be sold with less than 300w's. Presler is wrong in the GPUS though, the 650ti is good card the 770 is overkill for what you want besides the 770 is $400+ you can get away with upgrading your whole PC for that much maybe less. So far 80+85+55=220, PSU RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black ATX-612WEBP 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply $90.00 I went case/psu because no one thinks about the fact they would need one until they get their parts and its too late, I've done it a couple times. You get a 500w PSU with it as well more than enough power for what you need and a case, for $90 bucks what you would spend on one or the other outside of this combo. $360.00 and you should be chugging away at team fortress. This price may be able to be knocked down a little I just wanted to show you what you would be in for. In your circumstance its honestly more than a simple GPU into a slot and you'll get nice graphics and thats it. This info. is what I'll leave you with for you to think about. PC's are amazing machines but on the other hand sometimes they can be chores because you head down a rabbit hole not knowing if you do one thing you'll more than likey have to do something else. If you want to persue the upgrade's I'd be more than happy to send you links and pricing for you to look over. The ones I sent are general suggestions. I can even go into explainations of why I chose that mobo, but I kinda already did with the CPU and PSU/case. So like I said I'll keep an eye out for your reply. Again Im not trying to be mean and I hope you dont think I was or am, I was just trying to let you know this is gonna be a labor of love. If its budget constraints, trust me I know about those, I was sitting on an old 2008 AMD processor , 4GB of ddr2 ram and I built my rig up being smart, now Im sitting pretty with a great PC.
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August 13, 2013 7:52:03 PM

danscan11 said:
You have a good start. If your looking for a solid GPU one that wont strain your PSU, stick with the 7750 no extra plugs needed it plugs into your PCI slot only. With the Catalyst Control suite it makes it great for Movies and games. Your cpu is really like falling off a cliff solid performance a little slow but once you get into gaming it just falls off the edge and crashes. Its about $40 cpu for $85 you can get one thats as functional as an i3 which can handle team fortress and bf2-3; AMD Athlon X4 750k $85. With that in mind you'l need a mobo with a socket to fit that, GIGABYTE GA-F2A85XM-D3H FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard $80.00. Then you have ddr2 ram, you need ddr3 Kingston HyperX 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C10D3B1/8G this is 2x4GB stcks $55.00. Yeah a new psu unit is a must I didnt realize it was only 160w. You need at least a 350w psu I havent seen a modern rig be sold with less than 300w's. Presler is wrong in the GPUS though, the 650ti is good card the 770 is overkill for what you want besides the 770 is $400+ you can get away with upgrading your whole PC for that much maybe less. So far 80+85+55=220, PSU RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black ATX-612WEBP 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply $90.00 I went case/psu because no one thinks about the fact they would need one until they get their parts and its too late, I've done it a couple times. You get a 500w PSU with it as well more than enough power for what you need and a case, for $90 bucks what you would spend on one or the other outside of this combo. $360.00 and you should be chugging away at team fortress. This price may be able to be knocked down a little I just wanted to show you what you would be in for. In your circumstance its honestly more than a simple GPU into a slot and you'll get nice graphics and thats it. This info. is what I'll leave you with for you to think about. PC's are amazing machines but on the other hand sometimes they can be chores because you head down a rabbit hole not knowing if you do one thing you'll more than likey have to do something else. If you want to persue the upgrade's I'd be more than happy to send you links and pricing for you to look over. The ones I sent are general suggestions. I can even go into explainations of why I chose that mobo, but I kinda already did with the CPU and PSU/case. So like I said I'll keep an eye out for your reply. Again Im not trying to be mean and I hope you dont think I was or am, I was just trying to let you know this is gonna be a labor of love. If its budget constraints, trust me I know about those, I was sitting on an old 2008 AMD processor , 4GB of ddr2 ram and I built my rig up being smart, now Im sitting pretty with a great PC.


This might be the most helpful response yet (I think the closer too)! I will take in your advice and everyone elses and if I have more problems I can just come back right? ;)  Thank you everyone for helping me out.
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August 15, 2013 7:27:43 AM

maith1 said:
danscan11 said:
You have a good start. If your looking for a solid GPU one that wont strain your PSU, stick with the 7750 no extra plugs needed it plugs into your PCI slot only. With the Catalyst Control suite it makes it great for Movies and games. Your cpu is really like falling off a cliff solid performance a little slow but once you get into gaming it just falls off the edge and crashes. Its about $40 cpu for $85 you can get one thats as functional as an i3 which can handle team fortress and bf2-3; AMD Athlon X4 750k $85. With that in mind you'l need a mobo with a socket to fit that, GIGABYTE GA-F2A85XM-D3H FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard $80.00. Then you have ddr2 ram, you need ddr3 Kingston HyperX 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C10D3B1/8G this is 2x4GB stcks $55.00. Yeah a new psu unit is a must I didnt realize it was only 160w. You need at least a 350w psu I havent seen a modern rig be sold with less than 300w's. Presler is wrong in the GPUS though, the 650ti is good card the 770 is overkill for what you want besides the 770 is $400+ you can get away with upgrading your whole PC for that much maybe less. So far 80+85+55=220, PSU RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black ATX-612WEBP 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply $90.00 I went case/psu because no one thinks about the fact they would need one until they get their parts and its too late, I've done it a couple times. You get a 500w PSU with it as well more than enough power for what you need and a case, for $90 bucks what you would spend on one or the other outside of this combo. $360.00 and you should be chugging away at team fortress. This price may be able to be knocked down a little I just wanted to show you what you would be in for. In your circumstance its honestly more than a simple GPU into a slot and you'll get nice graphics and thats it. This info. is what I'll leave you with for you to think about. PC's are amazing machines but on the other hand sometimes they can be chores because you head down a rabbit hole not knowing if you do one thing you'll more than likey have to do something else. If you want to persue the upgrade's I'd be more than happy to send you links and pricing for you to look over. The ones I sent are general suggestions. I can even go into explainations of why I chose that mobo, but I kinda already did with the CPU and PSU/case. So like I said I'll keep an eye out for your reply. Again Im not trying to be mean and I hope you dont think I was or am, I was just trying to let you know this is gonna be a labor of love. If its budget constraints, trust me I know about those, I was sitting on an old 2008 AMD processor , 4GB of ddr2 ram and I built my rig up being smart, now Im sitting pretty with a great PC.


This might be the most helpful response yet (I think the closer too)! I will take in your advice and everyone elses and if I have more problems I can just come back right? ;)  Thank you everyone for helping me out.


Yeah I just wanted to be upfront and everything, if you got a cheap GPU its probably really old and I would hate to say oh yeah thats fine and it backfire. Don't hesitate to PM me if you have anything on your mind. Any question no matter how stupid you might think it is. Believe me Ive asked plenty. Also most if not all the guys/girls on here are REALLY friendly and they know what its like to be in your's or someone else's shoes. Even if I can't answer I'll find someone who can. I have a couple guys I throw things too when I can't seem to figure something out. Again not many people answered cause they either couldn't, had the same feeling I did when I answered, or didn't wanna make you feel cruddy. Again PM me if you need anything I'm almost always on here at least once or twice a day.
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August 15, 2013 4:49:15 PM

danscan11 said:
maith1 said:
danscan11 said:
You have a good start. If your looking for a solid GPU one that wont strain your PSU, stick with the 7750 no extra plugs needed it plugs into your PCI slot only. With the Catalyst Control suite it makes it great for Movies and games. Your cpu is really like falling off a cliff solid performance a little slow but once you get into gaming it just falls off the edge and crashes. Its about $40 cpu for $85 you can get one thats as functional as an i3 which can handle team fortress and bf2-3; AMD Athlon X4 750k $85. With that in mind you'l need a mobo with a socket to fit that, GIGABYTE GA-F2A85XM-D3H FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard $80.00. Then you have ddr2 ram, you need ddr3 Kingston HyperX 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C10D3B1/8G this is 2x4GB stcks $55.00. Yeah a new psu unit is a must I didnt realize it was only 160w. You need at least a 350w psu I havent seen a modern rig be sold with less than 300w's. Presler is wrong in the GPUS though, the 650ti is good card the 770 is overkill for what you want besides the 770 is $400+ you can get away with upgrading your whole PC for that much maybe less. So far 80+85+55=220, PSU RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black ATX-612WEBP 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 500W Power Supply $90.00 I went case/psu because no one thinks about the fact they would need one until they get their parts and its too late, I've done it a couple times. You get a 500w PSU with it as well more than enough power for what you need and a case, for $90 bucks what you would spend on one or the other outside of this combo. $360.00 and you should be chugging away at team fortress. This price may be able to be knocked down a little I just wanted to show you what you would be in for. In your circumstance its honestly more than a simple GPU into a slot and you'll get nice graphics and thats it. This info. is what I'll leave you with for you to think about. PC's are amazing machines but on the other hand sometimes they can be chores because you head down a rabbit hole not knowing if you do one thing you'll more than likey have to do something else. If you want to persue the upgrade's I'd be more than happy to send you links and pricing for you to look over. The ones I sent are general suggestions. I can even go into explainations of why I chose that mobo, but I kinda already did with the CPU and PSU/case. So like I said I'll keep an eye out for your reply. Again Im not trying to be mean and I hope you dont think I was or am, I was just trying to let you know this is gonna be a labor of love. If its budget constraints, trust me I know about those, I was sitting on an old 2008 AMD processor , 4GB of ddr2 ram and I built my rig up being smart, now Im sitting pretty with a great PC.


This might be the most helpful response yet (I think the closer too)! I will take in your advice and everyone elses and if I have more problems I can just come back right? ;)  Thank you everyone for helping me out.


Yeah I just wanted to be upfront and everything, if you got a cheap GPU its probably really old and I would hate to say oh yeah thats fine and it backfire. Don't hesitate to PM me if you have anything on your mind. Any question no matter how stupid you might think it is. Believe me Ive asked plenty. Also most if not all the guys/girls on here are REALLY friendly and they know what its like to be in your's or someone else's shoes. Even if I can't answer I'll find someone who can. I have a couple guys I throw things too when I can't seem to figure something out. Again not many people answered cause they either couldn't, had the same feeling I did when I answered, or didn't wanna make you feel cruddy. Again PM me if you need anything I'm almost always on here at least once or twice a day.


Alright thanks! I will ask you any questions if I have more. Thanks for the help!

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