New Haswell PC, ~$1300

WonkleFinkle

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Hey guys, this is my first post. I'm looking at building a haswell gaming PC and for the last two weeks and been scouring a lot of different websites in order to put together what i think will work best for me. Some things I was looking for:

-~$1200 for the tower. This is a rather hard limit.
-Use it for gaming and some CAD work. No adobe or video editing.
-Want it to be silent
-Maybe a mild overclock, like 15-25%.
-Wanted to use Haswell, as the mobo will then be compatible with new chips for the next few years

This is what i ended up selecting (note that the monitor is included here):
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($177.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($95.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.73 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($241.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($96.56 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($16.00 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.74 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($149.48 @ Amazon)
Total: $1321.45


One thing to note:
-I am not near a microcenter but will take a trip out to Houston soon which will have one so I can pick up a part or two. It'll have to fit in airline luggage so definitely can't buy all the parts there and furthermore, if i get something that is faulty, i won't be able to return it. So risky items that are usually DOA are not an option.
-Future plans: eventually hook up the PC to a TV as well to use as almost a console too (steam's big picture mode really makes this possible and enjoyable). I'll probably get a sound card too and upgrade to a blu-ray drive when this happens, so i'll need the room for that.

Otherwise, i have two main questions...
1. Motherboard.
I feel like this might be overkill, especially because i'm not really that hardcore of a PC guy. I really liked the BIOS UI, different "states" (away, normal, gaming) ability, fanXpert2, the "intelligent processors". I'm sure that other mobos have these options too, its just that the more i looked at the Asus site, the professional website design slowly got to me and made it seem like the superior product. Also, for those that might try to play with my build, i do want wifi, so add an adapter back in if you swap something out.
That being said, I did look into boards from MSI (which general consensus was poor QC and customer support), ASRock (which general consensus was cheap and flimsy, though good - a "value" item), and Gigabyte (actually still considering this). I was looking at the UD4H from gigabyte and saw that it had "10k black caps" whereas the Asus I chose has 5k. Obviously, lifespan deals with more than just this part, though it got me wondering about the overall build quality between these boards (and more) and which one would be the best. Considering i'm putting down close to $200, i'd like it to last.

2. GPU.
Forums go back and forth on the GTX 760 and AMD 7950, with the GTX usually barely sliding out on top. That being said, I'm pretty intrigued by the game deal offered by AMD, so i'm really leaning that way. But i still had a question regarding the "future proofing" of both items. GPUs seem to increase in performance much more dramatically than any other item, so this question might be pointless, but considering that the AMD one is 3Gb over 2Gb and has a faster memory interface, will it be better in the long run? Keep in mind that i'll also be attaching this PC to a TV in the future, if this makes a difference.

That being said, I'm quite ready to pull the trigger on this, just wanted to double check with some more experienced guys first. Thanks for any input in advance! Feel free to say i'm thinking the wrong way about all of this too.

 
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The MSI Z87 GD65 is the big performance / ruggedability / value leader this round

That being said, I did look into boards from MSI (which general consensus was poor QC and customer support)

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_z87_gd65_gaming/12.htm

MSI has been using components that meet or exceed MIL-STD-810G for some time as part of its Military Class build philosophy. Parts such as Super Ferrite Chokes that run at up to 35 degree Celsius lower temperatures, have a 30% higher current handling capacity, and a 20% improvement in power efficiency; Tantalum filled Hi-C Caps that are are up to 93% efficient; and "Dark Capacitors" that feature Lower ESR and a ten-year lifespan all tied into a PCB with improved...
The MSI Z87 GD65 is the big performance / ruggedability / value leader this round

That being said, I did look into boards from MSI (which general consensus was poor QC and customer support)

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_z87_gd65_gaming/12.htm

MSI has been using components that meet or exceed MIL-STD-810G for some time as part of its Military Class build philosophy. Parts such as Super Ferrite Chokes that run at up to 35 degree Celsius lower temperatures, have a 30% higher current handling capacity, and a 20% improvement in power efficiency; Tantalum filled Hi-C Caps that are are up to 93% efficient; and "Dark Capacitors" that feature Lower ESR and a ten-year lifespan all tied into a PCB with improved temperature and humidity protections as part of the "Military Essentials" package......In the end MSI's Z87-GD65 is a board that comes with an expansive feature set that includes all your basics and the extras that set them apart such as the V-Check points, upper end audio, Dual BIOS ROMs, KIller Network package, Military Class IV package, and a three-year warranty. Couple that with good looks that carry the dragon theme through the board, and you have a winning combination at $189.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/msi_z87_gd65_gaming_review/15

Now and again a motherboard appears that is so obviously brilliant, and so affordable, that we wonder if anything will be able to top it. For a while that crown was held by the ASUS Sabertooth, both in X58 and then P67 variants. Then MSI stole the crown with the Z77 MPower. Looking at the Z87 GD65 Gaming we think it's going to take something extraordinary to top it, such is the perfect storm of price, performance, features and looks.

The switch to Military Class 4 has given us an extremely ready overclocker too. You're always thermally limited when overclocking and the i7-4770K is one of the most demanding around. Considering the amount of cooling we're using we think that although the GD65 is capable of bringing 5GHz from our i7-4770K you'd need a proper water loop to make the most of it.

Performance is outstanding. The stock results were a particular highlight. We know a lot of people still just like to put their CPU in and go, without overclocking it first. Despite how easy it is these days we know that the fear factor still exists. So you'll be glad to know that the MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming really rocks hard even at stock settings. Naturally the overclocking is blistering too, with some OC3D records broken.

MSI have laid the gauntlet down to all the other manufacturers. Gorgeous to look at, blistering performance and all at a very affordable price, the MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming is not only the new benchmark for Z87 motherboards, but probably for all motherboards.

faster RAM
RAM $80 - (2 x 4GB) Muskin CAS 9 DDR3-1866 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226223

Don't see the 7950 choice .... only 86% of the "performance per dollar" compared to 760. And SLI works.... CF has gotten better w/ 13.8 beta drivers but still not equal to SLI
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_GTX_760_TF_Gaming/29.html

Ya have SLI / CF capable MoBo but only a 550 watt PSU ?
$100 TX750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021

But if ya do that, this $150 combo gets you a better case, a bigger and better PSU and puts $47 back in ya pcket
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1390811
 
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