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August 5, 2013 10:47:16 PM

Is this gaming build any good? I've done some research but I am new to computers and could be doing it all wrong. I want to keep it below £500 if I can. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1oMXs
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August 5, 2013 11:01:07 PM

Drop the wired LAN card. the motherboard has built in LAN.

Everything else looks good to me.
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August 5, 2013 11:07:23 PM

A number of problems with this build:
1. You only have one memory module chosen. You could be getting dual-channel benefits from 2x2GB as opposed to 1x4GB, which would essentially double your memory bandwidth.
2. I would definitely aim for at least 8GB of RAM, but you could always upgrade the RAM later and add another 4GB module, which would also take care of problem #1.
3. You could get slightly faster RAM - the processor supports DDR3-1866 (try for 9CAS latency or lower) (Corsair is often a little overpriced, I would go with Crucial for the brand).
4. The motherboard has a built-in network card, as is standard in motherboards these days, hence you don't need the extra StarTech PCI Network Adapter, unless you have a specific reason for needing two network adapters (besides the wireless adapter).
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August 5, 2013 11:40:10 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£58.50 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard (£45.30 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£31.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£80.50 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN727N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (£5.49 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£37.44 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£34.99 @ Maplin Electronics)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£13.02 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.39 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor (£85.02 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £501.63
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-06 07:38 BST+0100)


BENIFITS
1. Ram running in dual channel would be faster
2. Better quality power supply
3. Graphic card at lower price
4. Removed lan card as u ll not need it
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August 5, 2013 11:48:36 PM

adamsunderwood said:
A number of problems with this build:
1. You only have one memory module chosen. You could be getting dual-channel benefits from 2x2GB as opposed to 1x4GB, which would essentially double your memory bandwidth.
2. I would definitely aim for at least 8GB of RAM, but you could always upgrade the RAM later and add another 4GB module, which would also take care of problem #1.
3. You could get slightly faster RAM - the processor supports DDR3-1866 (try for 9CAS latency or lower) (Corsair is often a little overpriced, I would go with Crucial for the brand).
4. The motherboard has a built-in network card, as is standard in motherboards these days, hence you don't need the extra StarTech PCI Network Adapter, unless you have a specific reason for needing two network adapters (besides the wireless adapter).


Wow! Surprised to get a reply so quick. Yes I am planning on upgrading the memory later on. So I have fiddled around a bit more with it and this is what I got. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1oNHv I decided to stick with the ram I have as I couldn't find anything cheaper. Also forgot to add a CPU cooler. What do you think?
Also in regards to cases, what are my options? (Sorry I don't know much)
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August 6, 2013 12:08:53 AM

krispykid said:
adamsunderwood said:
A number of problems with this build:
1. You only have one memory module chosen. You could be getting dual-channel benefits from 2x2GB as opposed to 1x4GB, which would essentially double your memory bandwidth.
2. I would definitely aim for at least 8GB of RAM, but you could always upgrade the RAM later and add another 4GB module, which would also take care of problem #1.
3. You could get slightly faster RAM - the processor supports DDR3-1866 (try for 9CAS latency or lower) (Corsair is often a little overpriced, I would go with Crucial for the brand).
4. The motherboard has a built-in network card, as is standard in motherboards these days, hence you don't need the extra StarTech PCI Network Adapter, unless you have a specific reason for needing two network adapters (besides the wireless adapter).


Wow! Surprised to get a reply so quick. Yes I am planning on upgrading the memory later on. So I have fiddled around a bit more with it and this is what I got. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1oNHv I decided to stick with the ram I have as I couldn't find anything cheaper. Also forgot to add a CPU cooler. What do you think?
Also in regards to cases, what are my options? (Sorry I don't know much)


The case is fine. I mean as long as it looks pretty, has decent ventilation, and everything fits, a case is more or less a case. And the CPU cooler should fit in that case, but you may want to research it and look up the dimensions and try to calculate it all out just to double-check. Though, it's definitely not going to be the most effective CPU cooler, but it'll surely be better than the stock cooler, and it's probably about as good as you're going to get in that price range and at that size. You may want to pick up some Arctic Silver thermal compound, as I'm sure whatever thermal paste it comes with is nowhere near as good.
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August 6, 2013 12:15:18 AM

adamsunderwood said:
krispykid said:
adamsunderwood said:
A number of problems with this build:
1. You only have one memory module chosen. You could be getting dual-channel benefits from 2x2GB as opposed to 1x4GB, which would essentially double your memory bandwidth.
2. I would definitely aim for at least 8GB of RAM, but you could always upgrade the RAM later and add another 4GB module, which would also take care of problem #1.
3. You could get slightly faster RAM - the processor supports DDR3-1866 (try for 9CAS latency or lower) (Corsair is often a little overpriced, I would go with Crucial for the brand).
4. The motherboard has a built-in network card, as is standard in motherboards these days, hence you don't need the extra StarTech PCI Network Adapter, unless you have a specific reason for needing two network adapters (besides the wireless adapter).


Wow! Surprised to get a reply so quick. Yes I am planning on upgrading the memory later on. So I have fiddled around a bit more with it and this is what I got. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1oNHv I decided to stick with the ram I have as I couldn't find anything cheaper. Also forgot to add a CPU cooler. What do you think?
Also in regards to cases, what are my options? (Sorry I don't know much)


The case is fine. I mean as long as it looks pretty, has decent ventilation, and everything fits, a case is more or less a case. And the CPU cooler should fit in that case, but you may want to research it and look up the dimensions and try to calculate it all out just to double-check. Though, it's definitely not going to be the most effective CPU cooler, but it'll surely be better than the stock cooler, and it's probably about as good as you're going to get in that price range and at that size. You may want to pick up some Arctic Silver thermal compound, as I'm sure whatever thermal paste it comes with is nowhere near as good.


Okay so do you get a cooler with the motherboard then? And this might be a stupid question but whats the difference between a heatsink and a cpu cooler. Thanks for the support by the way.
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August 6, 2013 12:18:50 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£58.50 @ Scan.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£22.85 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard (£45.30 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£40.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£80.50 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN727N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (£5.49 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z5 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£38.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: XFX 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£34.99 @ Maplin Electronics)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£13.02 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.39 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor (£85.02 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £536.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-06 08:18 BST+0100)


Corrected ur built
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August 6, 2013 12:21:07 AM

Now to clear it all out


A cpu comes with a heatsink or sometimes its called cooler
The stock heatsink is good enough but if u wanna overclock u will have to get a aftermarket heatsink like the one i added will make u able to overclock to 4.3+ it also comes with a decent thermal compound
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August 6, 2013 12:21:44 AM

Now to clear it all out


A cpu comes with a heatsink or sometimes its called cooler
The stock heatsink is good enough but if u wanna overclock u will have to get a aftermarket heatsink like the one i added will make u able to overclock to 4.3+ it also comes with a decent thermal compound
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August 6, 2013 12:28:40 AM

Sn1992 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£58.50 @ Scan.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£22.85 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard (£45.30 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: GeIL Enhance CORSA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£40.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card (£80.50 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN727N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (£5.49 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z5 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£38.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: XFX 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£34.99 @ Maplin Electronics)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£13.02 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.39 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: Hannspree HE225DPB 21.5" Monitor (£85.02 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £536.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-06 08:18 BST+0100)


Corrected ur built


Thanks. I don't think I'm going to overclock to start with, so I'll leave the cooler for now. Now for the memory, how is it that you tell what I compatible? And why do you suggest those ones?
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August 6, 2013 12:33:33 AM

Yeah thats good if u dont wanna o.c. Dont get a cooler use the stock one

They are compatible
U have to check the speed and voltage supported by cpu

I suggested these because they are cheap but great performers 8gb ram that is good performing under 50£ is hard to find and heres a review on ram
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1344/pg8/geil-enh...
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August 6, 2013 12:36:59 AM

Sn1992 said:
Yeah thats good if u dont wanna o.c. Dont get a cooler use the stock one

They are compatible
U have to check the speed and voltage supported by cpu

I suggested these because they are cheap but great performers 8gb ram that is good performing under 50£ is hard to find and heres a review on ram
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1344/pg8/geil-enh...


Okay, thank you for the support. Ill hopefully be able to get my PC up and running soon.
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August 6, 2013 12:41:27 AM

Yeah great
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