Building my first PC! [Assistance/Discussion]

illusi0nist · Aug 6, 2013

Hey everyone! I am very new to the hardware game, recently I have decided that I really want to build my first computer. I have had a Dell Inspiron laptop for a few years and used it mostly for gaming and research. Now, at the time it was a wonderful computer but it just cannot handle what I need it to anymore!

To hopefully give some more clarity on the type of computer I am working to build, I will give a brief description on what I intend to use it mostly for. I plan to use the laptop I have currently and turn it into a research station for pen-testing, the computer I hope to build will be mostly for gaming and running multiple VM's at times.

One of my good friends created a build for me in which I am most likely going to make, I would greatly appreciate any feedback/opinions on the build and perhaps if there is a better deal for certain parts or anything along those lines. My maximum budget/investment into this project is probably around what the build is now, $1,400-$1,500.

Link To Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1nrQ2#incompatibilities

I really hope to learn something new from all the great minds here! Seems like a wonderful community. I have always wanted to build my own computer and hopefully soon I can let everyone know how it went!

Thanks for reading!

-Travis

skyhide · Aug 6, 2013

Everything seems in place but why not
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901
Instead of
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116902&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

socialassassin · Aug 6, 2013

illusi0nist :

Hey everyone! I am very new to the hardware game, recently I have decided that I really want to build my first computer. I have had a Dell Inspiron laptop for a few years and used it mostly for gaming and research. Now, at the time it was a wonderful computer but it just cannot handle what I need it to anymore!

To hopefully give some more clarity on the type of computer I am working to build, I will give a brief description on what I intend to use it mostly for. I plan to use the laptop I have currently and turn it into a research station for pen-testing, the computer I hope to build will be mostly for gaming and running multiple VM's at times.

One of my good friends created a build for me in which I am most likely going to make, I would greatly appreciate any feedback/opinions on the build and perhaps if there is a better deal for certain parts or anything along those lines. My maximum budget/investment into this project is probably around what the build is now, $1,400-$1,500.

Link To Build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1nrQ2#incompatibilities

I really hope to learn something new from all the great minds here! Seems like a wonderful community. I have always wanted to build my own computer and hopefully soon I can let everyone know how it went!

Thanks for reading!

-Travis

Are you planning on overclocking? If yes, change the CPU in that build to 4770K. If no, you will not need an aftermarket cooler nor a Z87 mobo.
And change the RAM to a 1.5V model, and if you're running multiple VMs, Id up it to 16GB to be safe.

illusi0nist · Aug 6, 2013

socialassassin :

illusi0nist :

Are you planning on overclocking? If yes, change the CPU in that build to 4770K. If no, you will not need an aftermarket cooler nor a Z87 mobo.
And change the RAM to a 1.5V model, and if you're running multiple VMs, Id up it to 16GB to be safe.

I heard the rule is that if you don't know how to over-clock, don't...Eventually I plan to, would there be no benefit to having a cooler nonetheless? I suppose I should just go with it anyway so when I do over-clock everything is in order.

mouse24 · Aug 6, 2013

illusi0nist :

socialassassin :

I heard the rule is that if you don't know how to over-clock, don't...Eventually I plan to, would there be no benefit to having a cooler nonetheless? I suppose I should just go with it anyway so when I do over-clock everything is in order.

You'd still need a CPU capable of overclocking. Ones with a (K) at the end denote the capability to be overclocked. (unlocked multiplier, technically you can overclock a non K proc but only very slightly)

socialassassin · Aug 6, 2013

illusi0nist :

socialassassin :

I heard the rule is that if you don't know how to over-clock, don't...Eventually I plan to, would there be no benefit to having a cooler nonetheless? I suppose I should just go with it anyway so when I do over-clock everything is in order.

How about this?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1oS5s

illusi0nist · Aug 6, 2013

socialassassin :

illusi0nist :

How about this?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1oS5s

Ah, so that is 16Gigs and a 770k. So the "K" overclockable, I'm learning new stuff already! Now I know I am asking very basic questions and I apologize, would there be any chance that all this won't fit into the Corsair mid-tower? Would you recommend a "Cooler-Master" enclosure to keep everything from getting too hot?

skyhide · Aug 6, 2013

Ah, so that is 16Gigs and a 770k. So the "K" overclockable, I'm learning new stuff already! Now I know I am asking very basic questions and I apologize, would there be any chance that all this won't fit into the Corsair mid-tower? Would you recommend a "Cooler-Master" enclosure to keep everything from getting too hot

The K actually stands for Unlocked cores unlike some intel Processor requires the user to pay to get unlocked cores.

"IntelEnthusiast":
The K on the Intel® Core™ processors is used to show that the processor has an unlocked multiplier. By unlocking the multiplier it allows easy overclocking of the processor. Since overclocking is generally through to be an enthusiast feature we have disabled some features on the Intel Core i5-2500K and Intel Core i7-2600K.

The differences between the Intel Core i5-2500 and the Intel Core i5-2500K.

Intel Core i5-2500
-TXT (Trusted Execution Technology) a business level virus protection feature.
-VT-d (Virtualization with Directed I/O) allows you to assign hardware to VMs
-Intel HD 2000 Graphics

Intel Core i5-2500K
-Unlocked Multiplier allows easy overclocking.
-Intel HD 3000 Graphics

The difference between these two processors are the same differences between the Intel Core i7-2600 and the Intel Core i7-2600K.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team

socialassassin · Aug 6, 2013

illusi0nist :

socialassassin :

Ah, so that is 16Gigs and a 770k. So the "K" overclockable, I'm learning new stuff already! Now I know I am asking very basic questions and I apologize, would there be any chance that all this won't fit into the Corsair mid-tower? Would you recommend a "Cooler-Master" enclosure to keep everything from getting too hot?

It should all fit with no problem!
One more thing, I noticed you have a 4GB video card which isnt really needed unless you're gaming at very high resolutions. If you are running on a 1080p monitor, you can save $50 or so by going with the 2GB version.

illusi0nist · Aug 6, 2013

socialassassin :

illusi0nist :

socialassassin :

Ah, so that is 16Gigs and a 770k. So the "K" overclockable, I'm learning new stuff already! Now I know I am asking very basic questions and I apologize, would there be any chance that all this won't fit into the Corsair mid-tower? Would you recommend a "Cooler-Master" enclosure to keep everything from getting too hot?

It should all fit with no problem!
One more thing, I noticed you have a 4GB video card which isnt really needed unless you're gaming at very high resolutions. If you are running on a 1080p monitor, you can save $50 or so by going with the 2GB version.

Hm, I will look into that, I need to check my monitor. One last question, do you think I need any more cooling fans or any sort of thing along those lines if I plan to do some overclocking in the future?

socialassassin · Aug 6, 2013

illusi0nist :

socialassassin :

illusi0nist :

It should all fit with no problem!
One more thing, I noticed you have a 4GB video card which isnt really needed unless you're gaming at very high resolutions. If you are running on a 1080p monitor, you can save $50 or so by going with the 2GB version.

Hm, I will look into that, I need to check my monitor. One last question, do you think I need any more cooling fans or any sort of thing along those lines if I plan to do some overclocking in the future?

You should be ok for a moderate overclock, if you want to push the CPU more, you can upgrade your cooler to something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032

illusi0nist · Aug 6, 2013

socialassassin :

illusi0nist :

socialassassin :

Hm, I will look into that, I need to check my monitor. One last question, do you think I need any more cooling fans or any sort of thing along those lines if I plan to do some overclocking in the future?

You should be ok for a moderate overclock, if you want to push the CPU more, you can upgrade your cooler to something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032

I think I will stick to the basics when it comes to overclocking for now, thanks for all the help! I really appreciate it! Hopefully I can let you guys know how it went when it's finished! Again, I really appreciate the help, I would be stuck in the sandbox without you guys. Thanks!

socialassassin · Aug 6, 2013

No problem, that's what the forum is for. Good luck on your build!

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