Skyrim stutter! Tried almost everything

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In Skyrim I got this fairly constant stutter. Every few seconds (1-5 orso) while moving its like skyrim skips a few frames. A constant micro lag/stutter. Though on rare occasions it plays fine for 1-2 minutes.
While playing skyrim my cpu is doing around 50% and my gpu hardly 60% usage. Playing windowed mode or using a frame limiter didn't work.

The weird thing is that bf3 plays flawless. I have done a clean install of windows and this didn't fix the problem either. I have got 2 hd radeon 7850s in crossfire, but I've got it disabled. I tried removing the second graphics card aswell, but that didn't help either. I also tried using a single processor, but that only added a weird horizontal disturbance in the screen.

My drivers are up to date. I'm using the new amd 13.8 beta driver with the pacing ability, though that only effects play while crossfire is enabled.

The problem occured after I had installed my seconds graphics card and also reinstalled my drivers. I've no idea what's causing the problem.

Although the fps isn't related to the stuttering, sometimes the fps of skyrim drops to 40 fps while the gpu and cpu stay around 50% usage. (also note that it's around 50%, they are not capped)

Here are my specs:

PSU: Corsair gs 600
GPU: 'HD radeon 7850 sapphire dual-x' (x2)
CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K
Motherboard: asus p8z77-v lx
RAM: 8GB
HDD: 2TB
SSD: 60GB
Case: CORSAIR Carbide Series 300R Black ATX Compact PC Gaming Chassis

Thank you for reading and I hope someone can help me out.
 
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could be a driver issue, download driver fusion and 13.8 beta again.

uninstall current driver and dont restart.
run driver fusion and clean amd drivers then restart.
install the drivers as custom install and only install display and hdmi drivers and catalyst control.

see if this helps then we can move on from there.
 
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I used to have an older driver when the problem occured. I just reinstalled windows and used the dvd that came with the graphics card to install the drivers. I had the same problem with those. After that I installed the new driver (13.8) for better performance with other games while using crossfire, though still the same problem with skyrim. When I reinstalled windows I formatted everything exept for a recovery partition. This would clean all that's left from previous drivers right?
 
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Okay done and tested with skyrim, though I still get the same stutter.
 
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ok grab a program called radeon pro, and create a profile on it for skyrim.
have skyrim highlighted and on the right set something called flip queue to 2 and enable vsync and also look for a control called dynamic frame control and set it to 59 fps or to 1 fps bellow your refresh rate and see if that helps.

radeon pro is brilliant, it lets you setup and enable many things that arent available in catalyst control centre and features that arent available in games themselves.

radeon pro needs to keep running to detect the games as you load them and enable the options, if you go onto the OSD tab on each game you can setup fps counters, ram use and gpu utilisation displays to show how well your gpu's are running.
 
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Thnx for your reply again. I think I already tried that with a mod. There it was renderaheadlimit =2 and fps =60. Though i'll try it with readeonpro right now.
 
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Although all the OSD settings are gray and unclickable, with Fraps I was able to see that radeon pro was doing its work, because the fps were indeed limited at 59. Though the stutter is still there.
Also BF3, that I had to redownload because of the fresh windows installation, had just finished downloading and I tested it and again BF3 is running flawless. (on ultra with max AA & texture filtering, though than I do use crossfire. With Skyrim I turn it off. Though when I do enable crossfire with skyrim the stutter will still be there, but the gpu usage will be splitted)
Also the stuttering looks like a stutter when the game is loading content like large areas of grass, trees and details of mountains, but than shorter and way more often and happening happening when no enviroment or anything else is being loaded.
 
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does the stuttering occur when your hdd is being accessed, knowing skyrim being a large open world game it could be slow hdd access causing the stutter? is the hdd old it could be that the drive is on its way out.

you need to select the radio button next to ost settings to enable the osd and then set a position and then select the gpu stats you want to show.

read some other forums and apparently its a problem with skyrim itself and crossfire, what sort of performance do you get with a single card if its over 60fps anyway then you have all the performance you would need if you have a 60hz monitor.
 
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My HDD is 1 year old now. I also have a SSD with enough space for skyrim. So I could reinstall it on that one. I have A 60HZ monitor and I'm not using crossfire with skyrim like I said earlier. I just bought my second graphics card 2 weeks ago. before that it ran perfectly with 1 graphics card. Though even when I remove my second graphics card it will still stutter, so I think that rules out crossfire.
I can enable osd now, though what options shows HDD transfers?
 
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Under the OSD tab I can't find any HDD options, only GPU options. I enable all GPU options and these were the results:
62% usage
2249 RPM (38%)
VRAM 776 MB of 2048 MB
64 degrees C
 
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Thnx again for all your replies. I don't think defragging will help since I already installed skyrim 4 times whil defragging my 2 hdd in between once. Though I'm going to install it on my SSD. After some playing on ultra low, it looks like the stutter is less, but not gone.
 
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Didn't help either. I noticed that lowering my graphics (way lower than I used to play with 1 GPU) does help lowering the amount of stutter. Though when playing on ultra the GPU usage won't go past 80% and the cpu is around 60% tops.
 
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Yes it's updated to the latest version and yes I've physically removed my second card and that had the same effect. Though after reading this http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/115273-13-skyrim-movement-stuttering I'm going for one last shot by switching mouses...
 
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oh right, try a wired mouse if you have one.

funnily i had strange perfomrance issues on my pc that were cleared up when i replaced my wireless mouse, got a razer deathadder 3.5g instead.

the old mouse was donkeys old, first gen laser mouse, it had been through the wars, coke spilled on it, dropped more times than can be remembered and it still ticked on.
 
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