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Mojoe134

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My specs:
300 watt psu
Asus Radeon HD 7750 1gb
5.50 gbs RAM
some 1080p monitor
DELL 04GJJT
And the small guy with some serious guns: amd athlon II X2 250

Im a gamer and i want to know do to make my what i can do to make this system run better so i was thinking about installing a new cpu. It has to be under 120$, and has be one at will fit in my systems wattage. Can someone point me down the right path? I want to play games like arma 2 The elder scrolls online and rome total war 2. Before you start any of the much needed recommendations! Read this: As soon as i downloaded Java 64 bit to play minecraft a bit better because of all the good reviews my system seemed to slow down and i could barely play a VERY simple arma 2 editor mission and i had to play Minecraft single player at 40 fps. Wierd huh? And before that it was hard to play arma 2 multiplayer games like wasteland and takistani life if the server had more than 30 people it would always drop below 20 fps and no matter how much i lowered the settings it would be like benchmarked (stuck) on 15 or 10. Please recommend a cpu. But if you feel that there is something wrong with some software or hardware on my pc, by all means enlighten me.
 
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an asus 7750 might draw 75w at idle, but not when gaming. honestly all 7750s regardless of manufacturer would draw very similar amounts of power for the most part. The sapphire doesn't draw 400w, that is the power supply recommendation for that video card. If it drew 400 watts you'd...
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@serge44

really? I have 300 watts how much did i go over? is that the problem? Is my system acting up because it doesn't have enough energy? Do i need a better watted psu or a new psu AND a new cpu to play game like arma 2? The minimal fps i can get before heading over to my ps3, is 25 fps.
 
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So your saying that any phenom II with less than 95W will not go over my wattage limit (with the same 300 watt psu) even in the most cpu intensive parts of ArmA 2? And will my system not go under 25 fps on arma 2 and any game weaker than Arma 2?
 
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The minimum recommended wattage for your video card is 400W. That's total power consumption. I can't tell for sure if either your CPU or video card have gotten power shortages; when they do, they tend to throttle down their performance. If this has been happening, then a new, larger PSU will solve that.

Either way, I'd think of replacing it. It's not that your video card or CPU are too power hungry, it's just that 300W aren't enough for a gaming PC. Some of the newer video cards have requirements of 500W or more. Newer Phenom IIs are 95W, but other new processors are around 125W. If you add fast ram, a couple of hard drives, some fans, etc etc etc, you know.

There are some PSUs out there that are 1000W or more, and unless you're running a 3-way SLI I believe that's overkill. For 1 good video card, a decent CPU and all, get a 650W PSU, make sure it's 80+ certified (this relates to power efficiency).
 
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If you read the threads, it looks like replacing the PSU would be an excellent choice. Select a 65W processor if you absolutely have to keep your 300W PSU. I have no clue how fast that system will be with a new CPU, particularly when your final selection is not yet known. Checking benchmarks with similar components should help, but other factors affect performance.
 
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@serge44

idk know how to notify you so if the message is all funky its because im going through trial and error.

Ok you've been a TON of help. So if the Asus Radeon HD 7750 really takes 400 watts then declared my a novice noob assistant of a simpleton! Man thats serious wish i knew about it sooner. So now ill need a 650 watt psu? Jesus what kind of money will i need to dig up from that? Can you tell me about one? I need the cheapest 650 you can find me. I just have no idea where to start! Just too many options risks ideas and game d goals! It was so much simpler with a ps2 just get a console and your game and be done with it.
 
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Idk but its a 300 watt dell inspiron 570 psu. But theres another thing. if my gpu uses 400 watts my cpu uses 100 and the tack on 60 for a heatsink memory and fans. You have 560 watts. So is it recommended to get a 650 watt psu instead of a 600 one or am i just punching trees and it wont make a difference?

the crappy dell psu wont do anything so ik i have to get a 550 watt minimum psu
 
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An HD 7750 draws 43W maximum. Your current system requires a 200W PSU, but a 300W PSU obviously is better. Why not use http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine to calculate your PSU requirements? If you use a 7550 GPU, then a 95W CPU won't be a problem. Earlier I didn't recommend a 95W CPU because you were mentioning high PSU requirements for the video card, but I read back all posts and nowhere could I find the reason for such powerful PSUs. Please clarify what GPU you'll be using. A 400W GPU is very powerful and you need a high performance CPU to take advantage of it.
 
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I toldyou what dont you understand i have a 400 watt gpu 95 watt cpu and about 50 watts of misc. So why are you saying that i need to have a 300 watt psu of which i already have? Anyways thanks @serge44 all i need now is a sub 120$ psu thatll have 600 watts minimum.
 
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OOoh big mistake my gpu is the SAPPHIRE radeon hd 7750 not an asus radeon 7750 and as i was researching the sapphire radeon hd 7750 and that recommend it draws 400 watts. The Asus Radeon HD 7750 (The one i was talking about but dont have) draws a max of 75W. Is this right or am i just reading too much 'internet'?
 
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an asus 7750 might draw 75w at idle, but not when gaming. honestly all 7750s regardless of manufacturer would draw very similar amounts of power for the most part. The sapphire doesn't draw 400w, that is the power supply recommendation for that video card. If it drew 400 watts you'd have to have a 600w power supply at the very least.

Honestly I would recommend upgrading your power supply first. If that doesn't improve the situation, then get the phenom II. I'd recommend getting a 500w or so. It never hurts to go higher than what you need.
 
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did i ever tell you i love you? haha jkjk but SERIOUSLY FINALLY i get a god damned straight answer instead of a riddle of question supposedly answering my question u have helped alot thank you
 
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You want a new PSU and that's fine, but a Radeon 7750 has no power connector; it's a low power card that draws its power from the PCIe connector.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102969&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL080713CA&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL080713CA-_-EMC-080713-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsVideoCards-_-14102969-L01A A reviewer wrote "Pros: Runs well with dell factory power supply in which total DC output will not exceed 300 watts. Power supply is rated for 17 amps at +12VA and 9 amps on +12VB; 10 amps on +3.3V, 13 amps on +5V."

A 400W GPU requires 34 amps on the +12V rail for the GPU alone. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202036 This GPU draws more than 300W; that's why it has two 8-pin power connectors.

You definitely can replace your PSU, but it won't improve performance of your system. If you are on a limited budget, you should first invest in a better CPU, but it ultimately is your money.
 
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