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August 6, 2013 5:41:24 PM

My budget suddenly just went up 100 dollars more than I expected so I thought I would come back here and ask what the best system for gaming I could in terms of both load time and graphical performance was.
I do not need an Os, mouse, keyboard, or monitor, being able to overclock is not required but would be nice. Thanks in advance, if you choose to leave more than 1 build please explain to me (and I am an idiot so try not to be too technical) the differences between the builds.
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August 6, 2013 6:07:25 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1p5Eq

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($21.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $553.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-06 21:07 EDT-0400)
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2013 6:10:15 PM

Basics for a budget build, but it's upgradable.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($92.13 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($80.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $551.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-06 21:06 EDT-0400)

Solid beginning for a gaming Pc in the CPU. Motherboard is a standard choice to pair with it, but it allows you to upgrade to an octacore Cpu down the road if you'd like. Good deal on a solid graphics card. Nice budget Psu that is still decent enough quality for this system. 1TB HDD. I chose a different case than I normally would, but it's a good price and BitFenix seems to make good enclosures. Solid Ram and obligatory optic drive. Ideally we'd stick an nVidia 760 video card in this build, but the budget doesn't quite allow for it. If you don't need an optical drive, then you can just squeak one in.
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August 6, 2013 6:11:19 PM

For graphical performance I believe the 7870 xt is only 200 right now and that will be far better than the boost which is a gimped gtx 660, otherwise I belive the build is solid.
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August 6, 2013 6:14:35 PM

My build, compared to Swordkd's gets more for your money. He has a quad-core CPU; I have a octo-core. He has a GPU with 4200-something on Passmark; mine is 4800-something. Plus, you get 2 Terrabytes instead of one.
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August 6, 2013 6:21:38 PM

Here is a 650 dollar build with the GPU (7870xt) I would recommend substituting for any of the following in the two above builds. Also if you prefer Intel here is a 606 dollar build with disk drive which you could remove to make it 590.

650 Build
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1p5GG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1p5GG/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1p5GG/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B75 PRO3-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $655.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-06 21:17 EDT-0400)

606 Build
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1p5Ma
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1p5Ma/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1p5Ma/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $606.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-06 21:21 EDT-0400)
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a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2013 6:22:36 PM

TheN00bBuilder said:
My build, compared to Swordkd's gets more for your money. He has a quad-core CPU; I have a octo-core. He has a GPU with 4200-something on Passmark; mine is 4800-something. Plus, you get 2 Terrabytes instead of one.


And you have a 430w PSU for a video card that lists 450w as being the minumum required. Granted, you have the room in the budget for a higher wattage PSU.

A regular 7870 performs better in games than the 650 ti boost too. Crysis 3 the difference is quite a bit at 1080p, and the 7870ghz edition runs faster. Passmark is just one metric, and not even a good one. So for gaming, the Phenom II 965 + 7870ghz will outperform a fx8320 + 650 ti boost.

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August 6, 2013 6:28:00 PM

Swordkd said:
A regular 7870 performs better in games than the 650 ti boost too. Crysis 3 the difference is quite a bit at 1080p, and the 7870ghz edition runs faster. Passmark is just one metric, and not even a good one. So for gaming, the Phenom II 965 + 7870ghz will outperform a fx8320 + 650 ti boost.




I agree with you about the 7870 Swordkd and think it is a great card however I do beilieve that the room left in your budget would allow for a 7870 le/xt (or gimped 7950) to be put in and give polio23 a little extra graphics performance still under his 600 dollars.
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August 6, 2013 6:33:53 PM

combine1237 said:
Swordkd said:
A regular 7870 performs better in games than the 650 ti boost too. Crysis 3 the difference is quite a bit at 1080p, and the 7870ghz edition runs faster. Passmark is just one metric, and not even a good one. So for gaming, the Phenom II 965 + 7870ghz will outperform a fx8320 + 650 ti boost.



True, true. I didn't realize they'd lowered the price on the XT/LE boards. They are great if under 200.


I agree with you about the 7870 Swordkd and think it is a great card however I do beilieve that the room left in your budget would allow for a 7870 le/xt (or gimped 7950) to be put in and give polio23 a little extra graphics performance still under his 600 dollars.


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August 6, 2013 9:23:30 PM

So with the 7950 what is the damage on cash? Is the i5 better than the fx6300. Also something tells me an 8 core is a tad excessive... Also I can live with 500gb of storage of I could get a faster HD or better GPU.
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August 6, 2013 9:32:56 PM

Also of I could .make 700 (and not a penny more work) what would you do.
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August 6, 2013 10:25:51 PM

Well, if you are ok with dealing with MiR's, then this is *just* under budget. You'll just be over till the rebates start coming back, but you could probably wait on the Ram or something so you don't have all of it spent out at once. Will take longer to build, but you'll always find comparable Ram on sale for the same price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $685.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 01:27 EDT-0400)

Upgraded the Cpu and Motherboard. Better gaming performance, no overclocking however. Upped the Gpu as well. The Powercolor has gotten good reviews, and actually has some overclocking head room so you can squeeze more performance out of it, and it's a great price. Upped the PSU due to slightly higher video card needs, but this Rosewill Hive 650 is a good product. One of the few Rosewill's that will get recommended.

There is a total of 55 dollars in MiR's for this build though, so you won't spend over 700 total, it'll cost more than that before the rebates come back. Of course, not including any tax you'll have to pay. I live in Oregon, so I never think about that. :p 
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August 6, 2013 10:56:52 PM

Why the i5 over the fx6300. Is it substantially better?
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August 6, 2013 11:18:35 PM

Quite a bit, yes. Here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-fr... You'll want to notice the results for The Elder Scrolls, and Starcraft II. Those 2 games are more Cpu dependent than the others, so the resulting differences in FPS are even greater. The results you'll find the closest will be the 3550. The Cpu I linked is 100mhz slower, but a newer architecture, so it'll most likely balance out at the least.
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August 6, 2013 11:37:10 PM

Swordkd said:
Well, if you are ok with dealing with MiR's, then this is *just* under budget. You'll just be over till the rebates start coming back, but you could probably wait on the Ram or something so you don't have all of it spent out at once. Will take longer to build, but you'll always find comparable Ram on sale for the same price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H87M Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $685.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 01:27 EDT-0400)

Upgraded the Cpu and Motherboard. Better gaming performance, no overclocking however. Upped the Gpu as well. The Powercolor has gotten good reviews, and actually has some overclocking head room so you can squeeze more performance out of it, and it's a great price. Upped the PSU due to slightly higher video card needs, but this Rosewill Hive 650 is a good product. One of the few Rosewill's that will get recommended.

There is a total of 55 dollars in MiR's for this build though, so you won't spend over 700 total, it'll cost more than that before the rebates come back. Of course, not including any tax you'll have to pay. I live in Oregon, so I never think about that. :p 

the issue here is before rebates it is 794 dollars. When i say 700 I mean literally 700 dollars and not a dime more. Im not willing to put 800 dollars out there while i wait on rebates.
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August 7, 2013 6:31:16 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-M LE Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $654.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 09:29 EDT-0400)

754 dollars, minus 41 dollars in promo discounts, minus 13 dollars in combo deals which means that it's exactly 700 dollars out of pocket. The 45 dollars in MiR's are just gravy. Slight drop in Cpu and compatible motherboard, but you won't notice a difference. Again though, taxes.
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August 7, 2013 8:48:56 AM

Swordkd said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-M LE Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $654.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 09:29 EDT-0400)

754 dollars, minus 41 dollars in promo discounts, minus 13 dollars in combo deals which means that it's exactly 700 dollars out of pocket. The 45 dollars in MiR's are just gravy. Slight drop in Cpu and compatible motherboard, but you won't notice a difference. Again though, taxes.


For the record I do not mean to sound like a jerk or anything and I really REALLY appreciate all of your help. Cash is a little strapped but I can probably make this work. I am just trying to get as much detail as possible. This latest build you showed me seems absolutely perfect. Questions, is there room for upgrade about a year from now? Secondly What kind of performance can I expect given these specs?
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August 7, 2013 9:04:03 AM

I just checked and with tax before rebates your most recent build runs 774 dollars.
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August 7, 2013 9:17:52 AM

I am going to go with your build for now but my last question is if there is a comparable ram for cheaper or if not this will suit me fine.
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August 7, 2013 11:13:28 AM

Well, there was some Ram from a different brand that was cheaper. I generally try and stay away from brands that I haven't seen reviews for, but I'm sure it'll work fine. There isn't much of an upgrade for the cpu/motherboard for the build. You could throw a faster cpu in, but its not going to be worth it. If you think thats something you'll want to do, I can rework the build to allow for an upgrade path, and save money. You'll just lose performance for now. It will mean going with an Amd build that allows you to buy a new cpu after the next Amd cpus are released later this year.
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August 7, 2013 2:15:31 PM

Swordkd said:
Well, there was some Ram from a different brand that was cheaper. I generally try and stay away from brands that I haven't seen reviews for, but I'm sure it'll work fine. There isn't much of an upgrade for the cpu/motherboard for the build. You could throw a faster cpu in, but its not going to be worth it. If you think thats something you'll want to do, I can rework the build to allow for an upgrade path, and save money. You'll just lose performance for now. It will mean going with an Amd build that allows you to buy a new cpu after the next Amd cpus are released later this year.


Would the price point be lower? For the record I already purchased the psu and optical drive because the sale ended today so I had to and idk if that will affect you building.
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August 7, 2013 2:54:06 PM

Also is the 660 or 660ti better or worse in your opinion than the 7950

Also my monitor only game with a vga . it has a dvi port but no HDMI. So I need an adapter or dvi cable with your build?
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August 7, 2013 3:24:47 PM

Your video card should come with an adapter. The 7950 is much better than even a 660ti. The optical drive would be the same no matter what. The Psu was an amazing deal for that model, so that's great. I'll play around with the build when I get home and post it. It will be at least a little cheaper.
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August 7, 2013 6:59:38 PM

Ok, dropped down on the Cpu, and video card(sale ended on the other one), but you have a clear upgrade path. Couldn't find any other Ram that would work without resorting to a mail in rebate, so stuck with what i'd chosen originally. Also had to change out the case because it was only for matx boards. It will save you money and allow you to upgrade it down the road with the next generation Amd 8-core Cpu. The video card isn't a slouch either, and costs less to make up for it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($92.13 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.06 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $621.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 21:57 EDT-0400)

I left the Psu and optical drive there.

:edit: Double-checked, the video card comes with a DVI - VGA adapter.
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August 7, 2013 7:37:00 PM

Swordkd said:
Ok, dropped down on the Cpu, and video card(sale ended on the other one), but you have a clear upgrade path. Couldn't find any other Ram that would work without resorting to a mail in rebate, so stuck with what i'd chosen originally. Also had to change out the case because it was only for matx boards. It will save you money and allow you to upgrade it down the road with the next generation Amd 8-core Cpu. The video card isn't a slouch either, and costs less to make up for it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($92.13 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($119.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.06 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $621.11
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 21:57 EDT-0400)

I left the Psu and optical drive there.

:edit: Double-checked, the video card comes with a DVI - VGA adapter.


the video card the 7950 is still on sale until the 12th man. Also why this cpu over the fx-6300 i keep hearing so much about?
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August 7, 2013 8:41:45 PM

The video card is still on sale, but you don't get a rebate. So it's 30 dollars more expensive than what it was. The fx6300 is probably the best budget Cpu in the FX line for gaming, but, it doesn't significantly outperform the Phenom II 965 for the extra 30 dollars or so. Last comparison I saw was an article right here on Tom's where they tested 18 cpu's under 200 dollars in gaming benchmarks. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-fr... They used a Phenom II 980 which is faster than the 965, but even taking that into account there isn't a reason to spend the extra 20-30 dollars. In some games the Phenom II actually performed better. Check it out for yourself, if you think it's worth it you can just swap in the fx6300. Same socket. I just wouldn't want to recommend spending the extra money when you are already thinking about being able to upgrade it in the future. I actually already linked that article I just realized, but it's still a good reference.

:edit: So I just checked the 7950, and you are right. It wasn't showing up on pcpartpicker as being at 200. So if you can squeeze the money in there, I'd definitely get that card.
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August 7, 2013 9:02:39 PM

So it all comes down to this. Between the 3 CPUs listed which would you go with personally. Is the base build featuring the i5 going to be suboptimal in the next 2 years? Does it far surpass the other 2 cards? If I could buy something solid now and get good fps on most games on medium to high settings and expect to get the same performance for at least 2 years with upcoming titles I may just go with the Intel.
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August 7, 2013 9:09:51 PM

You would definitely be able to get good performance with the Intel Cpu. Honestly, I kinda like the idea of going with Amd because you get to save money now, and then just throw in the latest and greatest octa-core Cpu from Amd for a good boost in performance. The one wild card to consider right now, is the next generation consoles. They both have Amd octa-core processors. So when a company decides to do a port to pc, which Cpu do you think will be optimized for those titles? Another thing I like is you can buy a Cpu cooler down the road(think 30 - 50 dollars) and overclock the processor easily for even more performance. You won't be able to do that with the Intel build.

Basically, if you think you'll want to upgrade the cpu later, buy the Amd Phenom 965/Fx6300. If you don't want to worry about it, just spend th extra now and buy the 3350p Intel processor. Either way, I'd say that you can game at high - ultra settings with that video card with any Cpu listed here.

Personally, after switching from a Phenom II 940 overclocked to stock 965 levels(3.4ghz) and upgrading to an Intel 3570k, I'd buy the 965 and plan on purchasing a cooler in the next 3 -6 months, and upgrading Cpu's in the next 6 months to a year.
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August 7, 2013 9:36:35 PM

Swordkd said:
You would definitely be able to get good performance with the Intel Cpu. Honestly, I kinda like the idea of going with Amd because you get to save money now, and then just throw in the latest and greatest octa-core Cpu from Amd for a good boost in performance. The one wild card to consider right now, is the next generation consoles. They both have Amd octa-core processors. So when a company decides to do a port to pc, which Cpu do you think will be optimized for those titles? Another thing I like is you can buy a Cpu cooler down the road(think 30 - 50 dollars) and overclock the processor easily for even more performance. You won't be able to do that with the Intel build.

Basically, if you think you'll want to upgrade the cpu later, buy the Amd Phenom 965/Fx6300. If you don't want to worry about it, just spend th extra now and buy the 3350p Intel processor. Either way, I'd say that you can game at high - ultra settings with that video card with any Cpu listed here.

Personally, after switching from a Phenom II 940 overclocked to stock 965 levels(3.4ghz) and upgrading to an Intel 3570k, I'd buy the 965 and plan on purchasing a cooler in the next 3 -6 months, and upgrading Cpu's in the next 6 months to a year.


If I go with the fx-6300 should I use the build you lsited with the 965 or the intel build (interms of case and mother board.)
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August 7, 2013 11:02:51 PM

Except for the video card if you can afford it, use the Amd build. The case I listed for the Intel build is micro-atx only, and the motherboard for the Amd is an Atx, so won't fit.
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August 7, 2013 11:58:43 PM

Swordkd said:
Except for the video card if you can afford it, use the Amd build. The case I listed for the Intel build is micro-atx only, and the motherboard for the Amd is an Atx, so won't fit.


what do you mean except for the video card because I am definitely getting that.
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August 8, 2013 6:30:27 AM

Ok, then make sure you get the case from the amd build. That's all.
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August 8, 2013 5:37:57 PM

You show the Amd Case at 29.99 but I show it at 49.99 before Tax? any other cheaper case that will give the same performance?
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August 8, 2013 6:40:47 PM

Meh, went off sale then. There is this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002UDK9U6/?tag=pcpapi-20 I've actually worked on a pc using that case, and I like the cooling options and cable routing for a cheap case. All of the other cheap cases use a top mounted PSU, which isn't as good. And they don't look as well designed on the inside as the NZXT.
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August 8, 2013 6:55:14 PM

Swordkd said:
Meh, went off sale then. There is this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002UDK9U6/?tag=pcpapi-20 I've actually worked on a pc using that case, and I like the cooling options and cable routing for a cheap case. All of the other cheap cases use a top mounted PSU, which isn't as good. And they don't look as well designed on the inside as the NZXT.


I mean I am willing to do the 49.99 still but if i am paying that much I don't want a case that has 2 reviews and only 4 eggs on newegg. If you know of a like bomb case for 49.99 i could make it work.
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August 8, 2013 9:59:27 PM

Well, if you sign up for a free shoprunner account(you can cancel within the time frame and not get charged anything) you can get free shipping from newegg on this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... It's got 34 reviews and 5 eggs on newegg, I'll link the amazon one because it's free shipping. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005869J4O/?tag=pcpapi-20 I just read a review on it, and it's definitely solid for that price point. Barring a good sale in the next day or two(it is the weekend though) that's probably your best bet. There is also the Cooler Master Haf 912 case which is solid, but doesn't have USB 3.0 sockets on the case. If you are ok with that, I'd check that one out too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 8, 2013 10:27:36 PM

Swordkd said:
Well, if you sign up for a free shoprunner account(you can cancel within the time frame and not get charged anything) you can get free shipping from newegg on this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... It's got 34 reviews and 5 eggs on newegg, I'll link the amazon one because it's free shipping. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005869J4O/?tag=pcpapi-20 I just read a review on it, and it's definitely solid for that price point. Barring a good sale in the next day or two(it is the weekend though) that's probably your best bet. There is also the Cooler Master Haf 912 case which is solid, but doesn't have USB 3.0 sockets on the case. If you are ok with that, I'd check that one out too. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


usb 3.0 is definitely not important for me.
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August 8, 2013 10:42:17 PM

Well there ya go then. Two good cases to choose from, but the Haf 912 has a lot more reviews on it on newegg. Not my favorite case(I like the Haf 922 and XM more), but it's solid.
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