HP Envy 700 - QVC, good for gaming?

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http://www.qvc.com/HP-Envy-700-Desktop-PC---Core-i5,-8GB-RAM,-2TBHD-Desktop-PCs-Computers-Electronics.product.E270964.html?sc=E270964-User&cm_sp=VIEWPOSITION-_-4-_-E270964&catentryImage=http://images-p.qvc.com/is/image/e/64/e270964.001?$uslarge$

I have no money to spend on a gaming rig, so paying monthly is my best option. Is this a good deal? I know the 3470 is on the same tier as 3570K, plus if ever needed I can upgrade to the 3570K with the Intel H61 chipset. Added to that, I get 2TB HDD AND 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM, with a couple of extra goodies. I know I'd have to put a graphics card in it, but for the price, is this good?
 
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You'll likely have to get a better POWER SUPPLY as well to support better graphics, and with the amount of money you're spending it would make sense to get a GTX760 (about $260) graphics card.

Your TOTAL cost, not counting tax/shipping is thus:
$840 + $260 + $80 = $1180

*With about $1200 to play with you would be better off BUILDING your own rig instead.

I know you say you don't have the money, but the PAYMENT details for this PC stipulate there are FIVE payments. The FIRST is due when you buy it then the remaining FOUR are monthly.

If you can afford to pay for this PC over a period of FOUR MONTHS, I strongly advise you simply WAIT a little and build your own PC.

If you wait until you have the funds for the entire PC you'll get a...
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You'll likely have to get a better POWER SUPPLY as well to support better graphics, and with the amount of money you're spending it would make sense to get a GTX760 (about $260) graphics card.

Your TOTAL cost, not counting tax/shipping is thus:
$840 + $260 + $80 = $1180

*With about $1200 to play with you would be better off BUILDING your own rig instead.

I know you say you don't have the money, but the PAYMENT details for this PC stipulate there are FIVE payments. The FIRST is due when you buy it then the remaining FOUR are monthly.

If you can afford to pay for this PC over a period of FOUR MONTHS, I strongly advise you simply WAIT a little and build your own PC.

If you wait until you have the funds for the entire PC you'll get a better rig overall for slightly less than you'd pay with the one listed.

*If you want a parts breakdown for a $1200 PC (including Windows) just ask.

(You could save up for everything except the graphics card and use the Intel iGPU in an i5-3570K. Then save a little more for a GTX760 or whatever.)
 
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The analysis above me is good.

Unfortunately, if you want to drive a Ferrari, you have to be able to afford one. Lots of people would like to have it, but in reality, it might not be possible for you to get it.

I think you should save up for a few months, get a side job, or cut your expenses so you can get the computer you want.
 
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**Here's a PARTS LIST**
(You may wish to PRINT THIS so you can stare at it as a guideline if you do decide to build your own).

You can play around with that a bit (make sure of compatibility) and you may wish a better CASE, larger hard drive etc, but it's the PRICE I'd like to point out. By the time you buy a new graphics card and power supply, you were up to almost $1200 by getting the pre-built.

By building your own (not counting tax/shipping) you can do this cheaper and may have some better parts as well (such as the motherboard). Also when you have PROBLEMS you probably have to send the entire pre-built back.

It's also FUN to build your own. Will you encounter a few issues? Sure. Will you feel great when you solve them? Yep.

*My EXAMPLE BUILD, based on Haswell:
motherboard $100:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130697

cpu $240:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899

cpu HSF: $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

DDR3 $69 (2x4GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231546

PSU $90:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071

CASE $50:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129181
*case example only
- get USB3 front
- get both FRONT and top-rear EXHAUST fans if possible
- make sure Graphics card fits length-wise (a common problem. I've not verified this case)

Windows 8 64-bit OEM $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416550
*don't get Windows 7 as Windows 8 is superior, but DO get Start8 from Stardock for $5 if the new interface annoys you (I did).
Windows 8 + Start8 gives you the advantages of Windows 8 while avoiding the new interface.

DVD burner $18:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136259
*has M-DISC support. Archival discs. Great idea for pictures/video ($30 for 10x4500MB discs).

Hard Drive $65:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339


TOTAL COST (without graphics card):
$762
*Not counting graphics card. You can use the iGPU until you can afford the graphics card.

Other:
Graphics card, GTX760 ($260):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130932

Total cost (with graphics card)

$1022

(For the original pre-built, you definitely would have wanted to replace the PSU, the CPU HSF and possibly add a front intake if it didn't have one.)

OTHER:
- partition hard drive in TWO (if one HDD only)
- Install main chipset and other important DRIVERS from motherboard site
- update BIOS if needed
- run MEMTEST to test memory and Prime95 to test CPU
- mild overclock to 4.2GHz of CPU is optimal IMO (keep Intel power saving profiles to reduce heat/power, but still get an overclock.)
- setup FAN CONTROL software
 
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