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FX-6100 bottlenecking my HD 7770? Need help?

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August 6, 2013 10:48:35 PM

Hi guys i need to know if this is really bottlenecking.

I usually play battlefield 3, on High settings, SSAO, NO AA at 1680x1050 resolution. The frame rate is around 38 - 60+ fps which is reasonable.

On the map Tehran Highway at a 64player server however, my fps drops to 26fps sometimes especially when viewing at a far distance (the US base).

I thought the 6100 can't bottleneck this midrange card. Here are the usage info.

Cpu: 75-80%
gpu: 70% sometimes spikes up to 99% but immediately drops back down.

Is this a bottleneck? BTW singleplayer averaging at 50fps + never drops below 40.

Do I need to buy a new gpu? Or overclock my cpu?

EDIT: When turn down the settings to medium, framerates are good.

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August 6, 2013 10:55:14 PM

Battlefield 3 is notoriously CPU intensive in large multiplayer maps, due to the below average PER CORE performance of the Bulldozer 6100, you will struggle on such a large player map.
Its not really a bottleneck but because you are playing at 1680*1050, your GPU does not need to work that hard, while your CPU is falling behind.
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August 6, 2013 10:58:15 PM

hmmm it would more likely be your gpu certain sections in battlefield drop fps like kharg island on top of that building which is the russian's first flag drops my fps because the view you can see the whole map i would try slightly overclocking your graphics card by 50mhz or so and overclock your cpu aswell. but for the future i would look to be upgrading if your getting battlefield 4. hope this helps :) 
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August 6, 2013 10:58:33 PM

Novuake said:
Battlefield 3 is notoriously CPU intensive in large multiplayer maps, due to the below average PER CORE performance of the Bulldozer 6100, you will struggle on such a large player map.
Its not really a bottleneck but because you are playing at 1680*1050, your GPU does not need to work that hard, while your CPU is falling behind.


I'm playing at 1680x1050 because the framerates are the same no matter what i set it to. Weird :/ 
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August 6, 2013 11:00:32 PM

MadRetch said:
hmmm it would more likely be your gpu certain sections in battlefield drop fps like kharg island on top of that building which is the russian's first flag drops my fps because the view you can see the whole map i would try slightly overclocking your graphics card by 50mhz or so and overclock your cpu aswell. but for the future i would look to be upgrading if your getting battlefield 4. hope this helps :) 


My gpu is actually overclocked with 75mhz. Cpu is at stock with turbo switched off. You have a 7770 as well?
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August 6, 2013 11:00:43 PM

kebbz said:
Novuake said:
Battlefield 3 is notoriously CPU intensive in large multiplayer maps, due to the below average PER CORE performance of the Bulldozer 6100, you will struggle on such a large player map.
Its not really a bottleneck but because you are playing at 1680*1050, your GPU does not need to work that hard, while your CPU is falling behind.


I'm playing at 1680x1050 because the framerates are the same no matter what i set it to. Weird :/ 


Yip, another indication your CPU is lacking. Do you have an aftermarket cooler and decent motherboard to overclock on? Easiest way to test it is by OCing a little.
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August 6, 2013 11:30:11 PM

Yes what Novuake said above you need to tell us what motherboard you have and if you are running a aftermarket cpu cooler or not! no i have a MSI 7870 hawk
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August 7, 2013 12:52:00 AM

Novuake said:
kebbz said:
Novuake said:
Battlefield 3 is notoriously CPU intensive in large multiplayer maps, due to the below average PER CORE performance of the Bulldozer 6100, you will struggle on such a large player map.
Its not really a bottleneck but because you are playing at 1680*1050, your GPU does not need to work that hard, while your CPU is falling behind.


I'm playing at 1680x1050 because the framerates are the same no matter what i set it to. Weird :/ 


Yip, another indication your CPU is lacking. Do you have an aftermarket cooler and decent motherboard to overclock on? Easiest way to test it is by OCing a little.


MadRetch said:
Yes what Novuake said above you need to tell us what motherboard you have and if you are running a aftermarket cpu cooler or not! no i have a MSI 7870 hawk


I cheaped out on mobo when I started this build.
It's an Asrock N68-VS3. stock cooling for the 6100 :( 

So this is 100% cpu bottleneck right?
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August 7, 2013 1:01:03 AM

yes it seems that way! :\ heres a good motherboard that can overclock and is cheapish but quality http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and here is a cheap cooler that would be enough to handle a good overclock what your looking for. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 7, 2013 1:07:56 AM

MadRetch said:
yes it seems that way! :\ heres a good motherboard that can overclock and is cheapish but quality http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and here is a cheap cooler that would be enough to handle a good overclock what your looking for. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Thanks man! unfortunately i cant buy stuff online in my country. But i should be able to find a board with similar specs. Thanks again. been a great help
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August 7, 2013 1:16:25 AM

Wait wait wait!

If this is your board. http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68-VS3%20FX/?cat=CPU

Then it supports a FX6300, that would make it STUPID to buy a new mobo instead of just a better CPU since its like only a 30$ diff.
Just make sure your EXACT board number as the VS3 has many versions.
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August 7, 2013 1:39:34 AM

Novuake said:
Wait wait wait!

If this is your board. http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68-VS3%20FX/?cat=CPU

Then it supports a FX6300, that would make it STUPID to buy a new mobo instead of just a better CPU since its like only a 30$ diff.
Just make sure your EXACT board number as the VS3 has many versions.


Yes I have a the VS3 FX board. So you recommend Getting the FX 6300 instead of overclocking?
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August 7, 2013 1:52:47 AM

kebbz said:
Novuake said:
Wait wait wait!

If this is your board. http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68-VS3%20FX/?cat=CPU

Then it supports a FX6300, that would make it STUPID to buy a new mobo instead of just a better CPU since its like only a 30$ diff.
Just make sure your EXACT board number as the VS3 has many versions.


Yes I have a the VS3 FX board. So you recommend Getting the FX 6300 instead of overclocking?


DEFINITELY! The problem is with the Bulldozer series, which are the 4100, 4150, 6100, 8150 etc.
By moving to the Piledriver (6300 for example), your problem should be solved.

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August 7, 2013 2:51:11 AM

yes this is true bulldozer was a bad bad chip! and his comment is right i was only giving you options for overclocking
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August 7, 2013 8:50:56 PM

Novuake said:
kebbz said:
Novuake said:
Wait wait wait!

If this is your board. http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68-VS3%20FX/?cat=CPU

Then it supports a FX6300, that would make it STUPID to buy a new mobo instead of just a better CPU since its like only a 30$ diff.
Just make sure your EXACT board number as the VS3 has many versions.


Yes I have a the VS3 FX board. So you recommend Getting the FX 6300 instead of overclocking?


DEFINITELY! The problem is with the Bulldozer series, which are the 4100, 4150, 6100, 8150 etc.
By moving to the Piledriver (6300 for example), your problem should be solved.



but am i able to overclock the 6300 on this board?
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August 7, 2013 9:51:50 PM

Still not, no. But the 6300 is enough of an improvement without having to overclock.
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August 7, 2013 10:55:20 PM

Novuake said:
Still not, no. But the 6300 is enough of an improvement without having to overclock.


Thanks man i might look into that.
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October 28, 2013 11:54:22 PM

kebbz said:
Novuake said:
Battlefield 3 is notoriously CPU intensive in large multiplayer maps, due to the below average PER CORE performance of the Bulldozer 6100, you will struggle on such a large player map.
Its not really a bottleneck but because you are playing at 1680*1050, your GPU does not need to work that hard, while your CPU is falling behind.


I'm playing at 1680x1050 because the framerates are the same no matter what i set it to. Weird :/ 


I have a 7770 and had a core 2 duo, same thing happened, no matter at what settings and what res i play i would get 20 fps everywhere. Then i bought a i7 4770k and now i get 50-60 fps at 1920x1080 medium settings with ultra textures and sweetfx.

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