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August 7, 2013 2:41:39 PM

I've been browsing this site for a few weeks and i've learned a little bit. A friend agreed to help in choosing parts for my first build.

My intentions: Moderate amount of gaming(fifa 13, counter-strike, minecraft, and if possible i'd like to give a go at bf3 and other popular console games). I wanted to buy a console but didnt want to fork out 400$ for a ps4 or xbox one when im not that serious of a gamer. I wanted to build a budget comp for gaming that can rival the ps3 at least and be able to watch movies and browse the web with. My budget i told my friend was 450$ and I wanted a smaller computer so i went with a micro ATX board.

Build:

MB- MSI 760 GM/P23 Micro ATX 49.99 or ASUS AM3+ Micro ATX 54.99
CPU- AMD FX 6300 119.99
RAM- G Skill Ripjaws 8GB 67.99
Case- Roswell FBM Dual Fans Micro-ATX Comp Case 29.99
Hard Drive- Western Digital 2500 AAKX 250GB 54.99
PSU- DiabloTek PHD Series 450W 29.99
Optical Drive- Lite-On DVD-Rom CD-Rom 16.99

Total: About $374.99

The MBs both have integrated graphics and my friend told me i should use them for a little bit and then upgrade a bit later to a better graphics card that way i can really see the difference(kind of a learning experience).

I came under my budget.I thought i'd post this so i could get some helpful suggestions as to whether i should choose some other parts that could increase the performance perhaps and to make sure everything is compatible.

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August 7, 2013 3:00:52 PM

well 450 is pretty low. a decent graphics card will use 300 of that alone.

i like intel i cant help you with an amd system.

Are you going to use windows 7?do you already have legal cd key for it?
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August 7, 2013 3:01:36 PM

If you can spare $20, jump up to a fx-6300 CPU, a 4100 is a worse option than a Phenom II which you could get for cheaper...and, don't pull the trigger on that hard drive, you can find 1 TB drives for $5 more than that pretty often right now.
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August 7, 2013 3:04:15 PM

ericlw said:
well 450 is pretty low. a decent graphics card will use 300 of that alone.


With his kind of budget constraints i doubt he'll go throwing at GTX 670 on there or anything though, i have a 7850 on a 430 Watt and it's happy as a clam

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August 7, 2013 3:05:23 PM

This would be the best build u can have with latest piledriver cores that are in fx 8350
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A55M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($70.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Raidmax Atlas ATX-295WB ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $359.23
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 18:04 EDT-0400)
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August 7, 2013 3:06:22 PM

Yes but he will spend more money in the long run by choosing that system.

to be more fair what performance do you expect out of games?

If your going to game at 1024x768 then it might work.
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August 7, 2013 3:10:46 PM

I will be using Windows 7 and have not yet purchased that. I know my budget is very low compared to most builds ive seen here but im not looking to maximize everything. I just want a system that can rival most consoles and allow me to surf the web.

I swapped out the fx 6300 for the 4100 and updated the total. What should i be paying attention to when looking for CPUs? Im mostly going off newegg's rating system more than anything sad to say.
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August 7, 2013 3:13:12 PM

Why are u saying so???
That system is optimised for him and a 6300 system would be like 400-450$
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August 7, 2013 3:14:12 PM

Jayrock205 said:
I will be using Windows 7 and have not yet purchased that. I know my budget is very low compared to most builds ive seen here but im not looking to maximize everything. I just want a system that can rival most consoles and allow me to surf the web.


Get the built i suggested
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August 7, 2013 3:16:45 PM

i do agree sn1992 system is better. good luck. you might also look at microcenter close out and regular priced stuff and they can be quite a bit cheaper then newegg.
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August 7, 2013 3:18:08 PM

Jayrock205 said:
I will be using Windows 7 and have not yet purchased that. I know my budget is very low compared to most builds ive seen here but im not looking to maximize everything. I just want a system that can rival most consoles and allow me to surf the web.

I swapped out the fx 6300 for the 4100. What exactly is different about the 2?


For $20 more you're getting two more cores, and the Vishera archtecture which is an approximate 15% performance boost on top of the extra cores, it's just a much better processor for a little bit more money. I would hate to see anyone buy a 4100 new when there's so many better things for a little more (or a little less, like a Phenom II x4 970).

The obove mentioned system is a good balance though, you'll actually get some decent gaming out of it, and not need to upgrade anything for a while. I don't care what on-board graphics that motherboard has (probably an HD 4250 or even an HD 3000) you'll have no fun playing anything besides solitaire with it (that's about all on-board is good for).
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August 7, 2013 3:22:25 PM

Not that it's much help here since you seem eager to build now, but if you could wait and save up another $100, it will make a huge difference in your build. $450 is about the lowest I recommend going to be able to play at 1080 on med-high settings. Integrated graphics aren't terrible, but you aren't going to be happy with them for games in most cases. $350 is a start, but you will be hurting for an upgrade very quickly.

Generally I would suggest for a $450 budget, intel pentium on a mATX board, 8gb of RAM, with a 650ti BOOST. That's just because I have been ultimately unimpressed with AMD/ATI for the past 4-5 years.
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August 7, 2013 3:23:59 PM

Sn1992 said:
Jayrock205 said:
I will be using Windows 7 and have not yet purchased that. I know my budget is very low compared to most builds ive seen here but im not looking to maximize everything. I just want a system that can rival most consoles and allow me to surf the web.


Get the built i suggested


No questions asked? haha. What is the main flaw of the build i have posted now besides the fact that on board graphics aren't useful for most gaming?

Just trying to learn

Jaxem said:
Jayrock205 said:
I will be using Windows 7 and have not yet purchased that. I know my budget is very low compared to most builds ive seen here but im not looking to maximize everything. I just want a system that can rival most consoles and allow me to surf the web.

I swapped out the fx 6300 for the 4100. What exactly is different about the 2?


For $20 more you're getting two more cores, and the Vishera archtecture which is an approximate 15% performance boost on top of the extra cores, it's just a much better processor for a little bit more money. I would hate to see anyone buy a 4100 new when there's so many better things for a little more (or a little less, like a Phenom II x4 970).

The obove mentioned system is a good balance though, you'll actually get some decent gaming out of it, and not need to upgrade anything for a while. I don't care what on-board graphics it has (probably an HD 4250 or even an HD 3000) you'll have no fun playing anything besides solitaire with it.


Thank you for explaining that.


And to answer a question above about the performance im seeking, I just want at the minimum console quality.

Thank you all for the many helpful replies.
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August 7, 2013 3:26:46 PM

They are based on microarchitechture and core
I ll list u the core architechture in the format of their performance and latestness

1.piledriver cores (all fx x3xx cpus and some fm2 cpus like 750k )
2.bulldozer core (all fxx1xx cpus like 4100 they are a little improvement over deneb cores )
3.deneb cores (mostly all phenom ll cpus like phenom ll 970 )



Now we come to core count

Its the no. Of cores the cpu have
More the core more the performance



I think that would make it clear







Dont frget to close the post
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August 7, 2013 6:55:59 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB Video Card ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $493.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 21:55 EDT-0400)
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August 11, 2013 9:09:14 AM

Sn1992 said:
This would be the best build u can have with latest piledriver cores that are in fx 8350
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A55M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($70.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Raidmax Atlas ATX-295WB ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $359.23
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-07 18:04 EDT-0400)



Im sorry i didnt respond earlier. I have been quite busy. I like the looks of this build after the brief research i have done.

Anyhow im wondering 3 things.

Can i switch the mid tower to a microatx mini tower and still fit all components inside?

And also should i fork out a little bit more money and go for the 7790 graphics card as i've heard its a better performer?

When i get the hang of computer gaming and i save up more money, does this build allow me to upgrade a little bit to enhance performance?

Thank you


AMD Anthlon Quad Core 750k 84.99

ASROCK FM2 AMD A55 MOBO 49.99

GSKILL 8GB RAM 66.99

Western Digital 1TB BLue Hard Drive 62.99

Radeon 7770 GPU 139.99

Roswell MINI ATX TOWER CASE 29.99

Corsair 430Watt PSU 39.99

total= 438.94

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August 11, 2013 9:23:22 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A55M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($134.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill Line-M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $438.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-11 12:20 EDT-0400)





u ll get much better than a 7770 by a 7850 i added but 7790 would not be a noticeable
i added a micro atx mini tower
a better power supply


u can upgrade ur gpu later to a 7950
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August 11, 2013 9:42:17 AM

Thank you. I think I will go with that build.
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August 11, 2013 9:43:37 AM

yeah it will be good
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