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August 8, 2013 4:36:45 AM

Hi,

I've been playing around with components within my PC for years now, swapping out hard discs, installing an SSD, new graphics cards, RAM etc. but my PSU recently exploded (And I do mean it went bang, wrote off my MOBO and started smoking like a chimney!) and I'm wanting to build myself a gaming PC from scratch as I was due a mother board and processor update anyway, but I've never done it all from scratch before!

The list of components I've "gathered" as my potential build is below, but I'm slightly unsure on compatibility and ensuring I've actually bought everything I need. I've also some slight concern about whether or not I've got a big enough PSU?!

I've been shopping on Amazon and come up with the below.

Case - Cooler Master HAF X USB 3.0 XL ATX Case - £124.99
MOBO - Asus Maximus VI Hero Motherboard (Intel Z87, DDR3, S-ATA 600, ATX, PCI Express 3.0, USB 3.0, Sonic Radar, Extreme Engine Digi+ III, Socket 1150) - £168.21
PSU - Corsair CX750 Builder Series CX 750w ATX/EPS 80 Plus Bronze - £589.99
Disc Drive - LiteOn IHOS104 4x SATA Internal BD-ROM Drive Bar Including Cyberlink software £28.90 (I also have my existing DVD ROM to plug back in)
SSD - Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5 Inch SATA Solid State Drive £128.20 (Again, i have another SSD already to plug in)
RAM - Kingston Technology XMP Beast Series 16GB 2400Mhz DDR3 CL11 DIMM Desktop Memory Module (Kit of 2) £131.91
CPU - Intel i7 4770k Quad Core Retail CPU (Socket 1150, 3.5Ghz 8MB, Haswell, 84w, Intel Graphics, BX80646I74770K, 4th Generation Intel Core Turbo Boost Technology 2.0) - £248.94
Cooling - Corsair 120mm Hydro Series H80i Digital High Performance Rad All-In-One Liquid CPU Cooler - £75.27

Any and all help appreciated!

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August 8, 2013 4:41:00 AM

Maximum Budget? What will the machine be used for? Do you care about noise?

edit: accidentally a letter
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August 8, 2013 4:42:28 AM

Yeah, gaming? No GPU? Total budget?
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August 8, 2013 4:53:54 AM

Hi,

Yes it will be for gaming, forgot to mention the GPU, I still have a GTX 465 which runs every game I currently own at high graphics without much issue (Was running with a Q9550 processor until the PSU gave up) so I was putting off getting a new one, but I want forward compatibility so I can easily upgrade in future.

Noise isn't much of a problem no, I'm tucked away in the little bedroom upstairs where the wife can't hear me :-)

Budget in the region of £1000-£1200 ideally.

Cheers all!
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August 8, 2013 5:11:39 AM

OK lets see now. First off, you are overspending on so many things, CPU and RAM being the most prominent.
Games for example are not even capable of using Hyperthreading in MOST titles.
2400MHz is too much considering you sacrifice on CAS latency, a decent 1866MHz CAS9 kit is a much more balanced and cost effective choice.

I am assuming you do not play games on a 1080p monitor? Since the GTX465 would not be keeping up in larger resolutions.

The Corsair CX PSUs are nice BUDGET units, but for a power build you need better. 750w is also too much by miles.
SSD, the Samsung 840 is not the greatest, but I see its on promotion. Normally I would say go for a 840 PRO as they are not much more, but as i said, its pretty cheap at the moment.

Right so with ALL of that said and done : This would be my suggestion. Its much cheaper, which could potentially allow you to get a very nice GPU and a nice HD monitor as well.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1pElQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1pElQ/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1pElQ/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£183.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£88.51 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£153.57 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£67.86 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£125.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£58.69 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£69.95 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£12.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £761.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-08 13:18 BST+0100)

EDIT : Fixed 2 broken links...
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August 8, 2013 5:13:33 AM

What I would do.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£183.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£62.39 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£69.28 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£39.55 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£125.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.63 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£499.99 @ Dabs)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case (£88.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£67.97 @ Dabs)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£12.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1197.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-08 13:12 BST+0100)

If you feel your card is good enough then don't spend the £500 on a 780! But with such a big budget I don't see why not.
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August 8, 2013 5:19:30 AM

what are your preferred retailers ?
do you have your old HDDs?

how about this if you don't need a HDD or dvd-rom :


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£184.24 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£62.39 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87-D3HP ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£102.96 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£39.55 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£124.84 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£318.50 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case (£95.00 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£74.09 @ Aria PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.39 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1069.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-08 14:01 BST+0100)
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August 8, 2013 5:32:38 AM

Quality answers both, thanks.

I am curious though, I've always been led to believe that the processor is the force that really drives the PC and you've bothy suggested i scrap the 4770k and go for the i5? I'm only asking as it benchmarks significantly lower!

You're right i don't worry about HD gaming yet but again, my monitor went not so long ago (Streak of bad luck i think!) so i've been using an old TV, but that, with the graphics card, is something that i will upgrade in time!

Thanks again!
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August 8, 2013 5:36:16 AM

BENCH being the key word. :D 

Physically the I7 ONLY has 4 VIRTUAL threads above the I5, which in most real world applications and games can barely be used. (Exception being professional apps like Photoshop).
Those threads almost never translate into a better user experience for average home use and gaming.

So yeah, well enjoy!
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August 8, 2013 5:36:57 AM

Kurshu said:
What I would do.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£183.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£62.39 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£69.28 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£39.55 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£125.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.63 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£499.99 @ Dabs)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case (£88.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£67.97 @ Dabs)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£12.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1197.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-08 13:12 BST+0100)

If you feel your card is good enough then don't spend the £500 on a 780! But with such a big budget I don't see why not.


May I ask why are you suggesting a B85 chipset with a K-series CPU?
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August 8, 2013 5:38:06 AM

Rafeed Iqbal said:
what are your preferred retailers ?
do you have your old HDDs?


Hi, no real preference on retailer, so long as i can trust them! I prefer to buy online with a credit card for protection.

I do have a 1TB drive and a SSD but thats currently just a boot disc, it's only small and I want a larger SSD.
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August 8, 2013 5:40:52 AM

Novuake said:
BENCH being the key word. :D 

Physically the I7 ONLY has 4 VIRTUAL threads above the I5, which in most real world applications and games can barely be used. (Exception being professional apps like Photoshop).
Those threads almost never translate into a better user experience for average home use and gaming.

So yeah, well enjoy!


Much appreciated! Hence why i'm on here asking rather than at home building a rig for £££'s without asking the experts! :-)

I'll take all that on board, and again, thanks for the advice!
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August 8, 2013 5:46:38 AM

No problem, always happy to help... :) 
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August 8, 2013 6:03:52 AM

kenty7 said:
Rafeed Iqbal said:
what are your preferred retailers ?
do you have your old HDDs?


Hi, no real preference on retailer, so long as i can trust them! I prefer to buy online with a credit card for protection.

I do have a 1TB drive and a SSD but thats currently just a boot disc, it's only small and I want a larger SSD.


edit: the threads close :( 
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August 8, 2013 6:23:18 AM

Rafeed Iqbal said:

edit: the threads close :( 


If it were closed you could not comment. :p 
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August 8, 2013 7:17:59 AM

Novuake said:
Rafeed Iqbal said:

edit: the threads close :( 


If it were closed you could not comment. :p 


best answer was chosen. thats what i meant to say.
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August 8, 2013 7:25:23 AM

Rafeed Iqbal said:

best answer was chosen. thats what i meant to say.


Ah, achievement hunting, you will get over it at some stage...
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