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I'm trying to build my first PC and I want to make it run fast. What I want from this PC is fast rendering, gaming, video editing and 3d animation. I have two picture, one of Intel and the other one of AMD. I want to know which one will give me the best performance and if I need to change some parts. I don't want to go higher than $1,500 and please give me a great answer/solution..

Things I will be doing on the PC include:
● Video Editing/Sony Vegas, After Effects, and Cinema 4D.
● Recording in 1080p HD.
● Gaming - Crysis 3, Far Cry 3, Upcoming.
● Watching/Streaming 1080p video.
● Using the SSD as a boot drive along with frequently used programs.
● Overclocking maybe if is possible for both.

AMD: http://gyazo.com/e61d00a9b0af4cbbb00253dab68bf7cb

Intel: http://gyazo.com/bcf1bcf66f8b8fac9ab6216d9ba26344

(Don't bother looking at the other 'stuffs', such as keyboard, mouse, etc. Only monitor).
 
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The 4770 will be faster than the 8350 as the 8350 compare to the similar priced 3570k/4670k even if it have 8 cores that runs faster than both 4 cores 3.4ghz Intel...

Depending on the software you're using, consider AMD GPUs for OpenCL and Nvidia for Cuda optimised software (just make sure your program is OpenCL capable before buying a 7970)

In cinebench (3D rendering benchmark) the 3770k stock scores 7.41Pts while the 8150 scores 5.99 (so the 8350 is around 6.5) so unless you plan to hit 5Ghz with the 8350, the 4770 will be faster as it's even faster than the 3770k

PS:: if you plan to overclock, get the 4770"K" as the 3770k OC to 4.83ghz score 9.98Pts (for reference a 6 cores HT 3960X score 10.51)

Oh and don't worry all the part...
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The links are working now. And yes I am big into video rendering so as 3d animation.
 
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The 4770 will be faster than the 8350 as the 8350 compare to the similar priced 3570k/4670k even if it have 8 cores that runs faster than both 4 cores 3.4ghz Intel...

Depending on the software you're using, consider AMD GPUs for OpenCL and Nvidia for Cuda optimised software (just make sure your program is OpenCL capable before buying a 7970)

In cinebench (3D rendering benchmark) the 3770k stock scores 7.41Pts while the 8150 scores 5.99 (so the 8350 is around 6.5) so unless you plan to hit 5Ghz with the 8350, the 4770 will be faster as it's even faster than the 3770k

PS:: if you plan to overclock, get the 4770"K" as the 3770k OC to 4.83ghz score 9.98Pts (for reference a 6 cores HT 3960X score 10.51)

Oh and don't worry all the part you'd listed are compatible
 
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Well, I will be using after effect, sony vegas pro, cinema 4d and other 3d programs and photoshop. Where can I see if the software is compatible for the OpenCL. You didn't actually tell me which system should I pick (Maybe you did and I didn't see it).
 
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I would pick the 4770 over the 8350 unless you plan on OC the 8350 to 5Ghz (as it's what it need to be on par with a stock 4770)

Check on the software website, generally they list it in the specs... to help you i search a little and it seems that all the software you use are OpenGL compatible (not OpenCL that is AMD only) and will even use the onboard GPU on the 4770 if you weren't having a dedicated GPU as the HD 4600 is OpenGL capable... In clear, you don't have any problem choosing any brands but i know that AMD Gpus are faster at OpenGL so the 7970 is the best choice for you and you had built the perfect config with this one: http://gyazo.com/bcf1bcf66f8b8fac9ab6216d9ba26344

More and faster ram would be a great choice too, it'll reduce you rendering times by a lot (as rendering take a lot of ram, not like gaming) i would suggest a minimum of 16GB with 1600CL9 but since the Haswell have a better memory controller than Ivys and i run 2133mhz CL10, i would recommend 16 or 32 Gb of 2133mhz or 2400mhz (check rebate and brands, i got my 16gb for 150$ so not much more than you we're planning to put in ram)

PS: 16GB 1600CL9 vs 16GB 2133CL10 was about 20% reduce rendering time for a 1080p H.264 32min long scene with a stock 3770k (once OC to 4.83ghz, the 2133mhz reduce the rendering time by 35-40% vs 1600CL9 (1680Mhz at 105 Baseclock) but it was running at 2240mhz with the 105mhz base clock)

FYI: tested using a GTX680SC and VideoStudio Pro X5, the only changing component is ram
 
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So do this means I keep the 4770 and the 7970 without any problem with the software I use.
 
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You should add 1-2TB of space for your projects because i do not see them in your list of things to get.

try using this as a base
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($85.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS229H-P 21.5" Monitor ($134.02 @ Amazon)
Total: $684.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-09 00:02 EDT-0400)

you can choose whatever CPU/mobo and GPU
(take out the CPU cooler if you are not getting an unlocked CPU)
 
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Yeah it'll work but the Nvidia cards aren't as powerfull at computing as the AMD cards so it'll be a little slower (unless you use a CUDA enabled program like i explain and that don't seems to be the case with your current softwares...)

I don't know how much difference that will actually makes as the 680 is a beast and the 770 is basically a really OC 680 (i have a SC version and i barely touch the stock 770 with my personal OC with good cooling, etc...)

Maybe it's not even noticeable !!! (i render often using that config and it's really fast so it's not a problem)

I know that AMD cards tends to be better at OpenGL than NVIDIA cards and all the programs you use are OpenGL, anyway the 7970 is cheaper than a 770 and will play anything you'll throw at it at or about max settings anyway, the only difference is only if you need Physx or not
 
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Do the 7970 has a option like the gtx. Called physx. I really like that setting for the gtx. It looks awesome in some games.
 
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really comes down to which you want spawn killker says amd will be slightly better with software but at the same time you want the physx...personally would go for the 770 becuase i really like physx too :)
 
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I like Nvidia a little more due to the support they offer and the fact that every drivers they make have almost no bugs compare to AMD that try to make better drivers and create some troubles with other things doing that

With Nvidia, newer driver = instant install and get better results while AMD = newer drivers, wait to see if people have troubles then install...

PS: if it was my choice i would go for the 770 and wait 30 sec more on the rendering of a 10 min movie ;) (totally approx but you see the point)
 
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