Is it worth it to upgrade to the GTX 780?
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David Lugarov
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To give you a comparaison, the 780 SC ACX by EVGA is faster than a Titan which is 300+$ extra. You can play BF3 on ultra settings with some good AA on while still getting over 120 fps in a mid sized to large map. I have 2 of these in SLI, and going for a triple monitor build, right now, it's just overkill.
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No, it's not worth the upgrade.
You can get two 760s for $160 less and still get more performance than any 780 or the Titan. The 760 SLI will be able to max out any game out there for over two years. By the time you'd need to upgrade the 780, the 760 SLI is still going strong. And that $160 saved means you can upgrade that much sooner if need be.
The only thing that might limit the performance of dual 760s with future games is the 2GB of VRAM. But if you don't game on 4K resolution of multiple monitors, that's not likely going to be an issue. Even then, you can prevent that from ever becoming an issue by buying two 4GB 760s. That's more memory than a 780, lots more performance, and it still doesn't cost you more than a single 780.
The only scenario where the 780 is worth it is if you either don't have an SLI motherboard or you plan to SLI the 780 at a later date. In any other case the 780 simply is not worth it, neither by price-performance or absolute performance.
You can get two 760s for $160 less and still get more performance than any 780 or the Titan. The 760 SLI will be able to max out any game out there for over two years. By the time you'd need to upgrade the 780, the 760 SLI is still going strong. And that $160 saved means you can upgrade that much sooner if need be.
The only thing that might limit the performance of dual 760s with future games is the 2GB of VRAM. But if you don't game on 4K resolution of multiple monitors, that's not likely going to be an issue. Even then, you can prevent that from ever becoming an issue by buying two 4GB 760s. That's more memory than a 780, lots more performance, and it still doesn't cost you more than a single 780.
The only scenario where the 780 is worth it is if you either don't have an SLI motherboard or you plan to SLI the 780 at a later date. In any other case the 780 simply is not worth it, neither by price-performance or absolute performance.
Alternatively you could get a GTX 770 and save yourself $260 over a 780. In two years that $260 buys you a card that is faster than either the 780, the Titan or quite possibly even the 760 SLI. And for that first two years the 770 will still be able to max out most games and play even the most demanding games on high settings.
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In a couple years, upcoming games like for example, if there ever is, a Crysis 4, two 760s will struggle, and low fps = stutter. Plus, 2 cards need a 750 to 800 watt PSU. And an SLI capable mobo, and SLI capable PSU. That said, 780 is a better bet as he can always find the money to upgrade to 2 or get a better PSU or whatever else the OP wants later on.
Sorry but that's just awfully incorrect.
Why do you think two 760s would "struggle" in two years? That is highly unlikely given that they're much, much faster than a GTX Titan now. Do you expect Titan, a $1000 card, to struggle with games two years from now? If the 760s will struggle, then so will the 780 and the Titan - and much earlier, too.
And pray tell, how would buying a 780 make an upgrade more affordable? If you buy two 2GB 760s you'll save $160 compared to a 780. More if you buy the second 760 three or four months from now and not right away.
Two years from now you can get a card that is faster a Titan for $250, or in three years a card that is faster than two Titans in SLI. The $160 you saved now is going to go a long way towards that upgrade.
Not that you need to upgrade in 2 years if you have SLI 760s. They will easily last you for three years if you don't insist on absolute highest details in every game (they will do them in most, even two years from now). Meanwhile, buying a slower 780 means you'll have to sacrifice details that much sooner and you'll have less money to make the upgrade to begin with.
Lastly, you really don't need an 800W PSU for SLI. You can run dual 760s on almost any system with a 650W PSU. A 750W PSU will easily handle two 780s with power left to spare.
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Not all games are optimized for SLI, I have SLI 780s, and I'm really let down by their performance on games like Far Cry 3, which scale terribly, Metro 2033 is another example, it just makes me wonder, what for? And I build pcs myself, almost daily, and I get many complaints that SLI is barely making a difference in some games, of course, games like BF3 will scale perfectly, but sometimes, it just sucks to see that your PC isn't being used fully. The second card gets lonely.
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Not all games are optimized for SLI, I have SLI 780s, and I'm really let down by their performance on games like Far Cry 3, which scale terribly, Metro 2033 is another example, it just makes me wonder, what for? And I build pcs myself, almost daily, and I get many complaints that SLI is barely making a difference in some games, of course, games like BF3 will scale perfectly, but sometimes, it just sucks to see that your PC isn't being used fully. The second card gets lonely.
Fair enough, but even if the 760 SLI doesn't scale perfectly for every game, I've still yet to see it lose to a stock 780 in any single game. That includes the Metro 2033.
At worst it's neck and neck with the Titan and overclocked 780, which is saying a lot for a setup that costs $500 or $160 less. In games where the SLI works better it's demolishes 780 and beats even the Titan with a fairly considerable margin.
That's a value that is very hard to beat, given that it doesn't actually lose to cards that are much more expensive than it is.
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