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Issue with 7970-From 60FPS to 40 then skipping frames.

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August 9, 2013 8:22:23 AM

A couple of days ago I was asking here in the forum if my 7970 is performing the way it should,with my i7 860 @ 3,6Ghz.
According to synthetic benchmarks and GPU usage in games,it is performing the way it should.
But now I am here once again because I am seeing more than 60FPS in games yet, they stutter to 30,40FPS every now and then and also games tend to skip frames and feel slow.
I see minimum 60FPS yet it feels like it is actually 20FPS and,as I said,every game is skipping frames.
Also,the GPU is making weird noises like coil whine(it's a second hand GPU I bought a couple of days ago, yet it is only 2 months old).
If it helps. I run a Core i7 860 O.C. to 3,6Ghz(I'm pretty sure it's stable),8GB DDR3 RAM 1333Mhz downclocked to 1020Mhz(because of the O.C.),ASUS P7P55LX motherboard and I think this is really important to mention. I have a PSU I bought a couple of years ago,it's the Cooler Master Real Power M620W 80PLUS.
Does it help if I say that when I bought the PSU,I bought it refurbished,yet in all this time,with my old 6850 and 7850 it never let me down neither do games felt like skipping frames/suttering.
I was getting low FPS on the 6850 and 7850 compared to the 7970,of course,but no stutter or frame-skip was present.
Help guys?
Cheers.

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August 9, 2013 8:33:44 AM

Also, for example, playing Metro:Last Light at top settings(1080p and no SSAA) I am getting constant 60FPS but the game tends to "freeze" every couple of seconds, like I am hitting a wall and can't move when I press the keys.
Also,when quiting the game,Windows 7 says I should switch to basic aspect because I am getting low on resources.
In The Witcher 2,I get non-responsive keyboard during more than 10 seconds and the back to normal,on maximum settings.
On high settings, everything's just fine(except for the tzzzz,fuzzzzzz, coil-whine, I guess).
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August 9, 2013 8:38:44 AM

i believe it is the speed of your ram that is bottle necking you, you want to try clocking the ram up to 1600mhz at least if possible
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August 9, 2013 8:44:58 AM

mauller07 said:
i believe it is the speed of your ram that is bottle necking you, you want to try clocking the ram up to 1600mhz at least if possible


I can't, it's a 1333Mhz memory and I'm not going to try overclocking it last time I did that was a total disaster.

Also, I have another stable O.C. profile on my mobo, it's 3,4Ghz and the RAM's working close to it's defaults clocks(1320Mhz), still I get the same stutter and poor performance.
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August 9, 2013 8:47:21 AM

it would be better to go with that option for best performance because even with the cpu being clocked higher its just going to be waiting more on your ram since its clocked lower.

it could be a driver issue, get the latest amd beta driver 13.8 and driver fusion.

uninstall current amd driver and dont restart.
run driver fusion amd driver cleaner and restart.
install amd driver as custom and only install display and hdmi driver.

see if this help at all.
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August 17, 2013 3:46:28 AM

Having the same problem from every driver i use. No matter what driver i use always stutter/frame skipping. Its really annoying i have a Gigabyte 7970 Ghz editon. Any fix?
using 2 monitors, tried using one kinda helped. Still there tried many many many methods of reinstalling/uninstalling drivers. Clean install of windows (While back) Used to have a 6970 never had a problem with that. Just this 7970. Don't know why! Been like this for a few months. Mainly windowed mode games especially source games.
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August 17, 2013 3:51:51 AM

grab hw monitor and check your temperatures.
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August 17, 2013 5:00:59 AM

mauller07 said:
grab hw monitor and check your temperatures.


Yeah, i get like 60 degrees celcius GPU playing Counter strike go. Get about 60 degrees cpu
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August 17, 2013 5:10:38 AM

do you have another psu you could try? it could be that its your psu unable to cope and whining or is the whine definitely coming from the gpu?

is your psu fairly old, what wattage is it also? the 7970 will definitely be using more power than your older cards did.
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August 17, 2013 5:12:13 AM

mauller07 said:
do you have another psu you could try? it could be that its your psu unable to cope and whining or is the whine definitely coming from the gpu?


No, i dont get whining. I just get stutter/framskipping. I don't have another PSU to try unfortunately.
Although, This mainly occurs when playing windowed mode/Fullscren windowed mode as i have two monitors and i usually multitask. This problem has been bugging me so much.
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August 17, 2013 5:19:12 AM

Well It turns out this just started happening to me and a few others on Final Fantasy ARR. 60 frames for the first 5 minutes and drops to >5 fps and eventually crashes. I'm running everything at stock settings I have a i7-950 12gb ram and crossfired 7970's with a 1000 watt xfx platinum psu
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August 17, 2013 5:22:28 AM

This sucks, i've been trying to deal with this since december last year. It comes back every now and then. I might just try to sell my 7970 and buy a Nvida 780 or something.
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August 17, 2013 5:24:51 AM

final hunter try fresh installing your drivers using driver fusion and see if it helps and install the latest amd beta driver 13.8 and make sure frame pacing and vsync is on.

oh firaaero i thought you were op to begin with since he says his card whines lol. how powerful is your psu?

something you could try firaaero is to get radeon pro and add the games to the list and change the flip queue option for each game to 1 under the advanced tab if you use crossfire have it set to 2
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August 17, 2013 5:25:17 AM

Thought the beta drivers were going to fix this issue by introducing microstuttering...
I made sure I used the 13.8 drivers when I installed these 2 gpus last week. I'll look into the others. Thanks
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August 17, 2013 5:31:01 AM

FinalHunter said:
Thought the beta drivers were going to fix this issue by introducing microstuttering...
I made sure I used the 13.8 drivers when I installed these 2 gpus last week. I'll look into the others. Thanks


Yeah... i was on my 13.6 beta that was okay. Then i decided to install 13.8 drivers and back to the salty mines i am. If you get it working. Don't ever update again until you absolutely have to. It's messed up i really want to sell this card and get and nVidia card. I'm sick of this 7970 all these problems with stutter and incompatibilities i've been having. If you're enjoying you're 7970 then, that's great! I would love mine if it worked well for me.
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August 17, 2013 5:32:47 AM

mauller07 said:
final hunter try fresh installing your drivers using driver fusion and see if it helps and install the latest amd beta driver 13.8 and make sure frame pacing and vsync is on.

oh firaaero i thought you were op to begin with since he says his card whines lol. how powerful is your psu?

something you could try firaaero is to get radeon pro and add the games to the list and change the flip queue option for each game to 1 under the advanced tab if you use crossfire have it set to 2


Hmmm. Never tried that. Yeah i have Radeon pro. I also have a 750w psu which i think it plenty or at least enough for what i have. i also got 8gb ram, i7 3770k (stock), samsung 840 ssd
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August 17, 2013 5:34:28 AM

run driver fusion to clean the amd driver remnants after you uninstall one and before installing the next for best compatibility.
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August 17, 2013 5:36:59 AM

mauller07 said:
run driver fusion to clean the amd driver remnants after you uninstall one and before installing the next for best compatibility.


Never tried driver fusion. I've tried amd's removal tool, driver sweeper, manually removing it by uninstalling ( deleting registry, other files) none of that helped. Ill try the Driver fusion but currently trying the queue option to '1' thing atm so far so good, only when im alt tabbed like right now it's stuttering because i think its set to idle fps to like 15 or something. But sometimes when i play it always stutters like i am alt tabbed
CSGO
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August 17, 2013 5:41:42 AM

oh right i see, yeah driver fusion is the updated version of driver sweeper so it could make a difference.

the flip queue is a brilliant change, it makes the cpu prepare fewer frames ahead of the gpu from its default of 3 and tends to reduce stutter and input lag when you change it to a lower value from the default of 3.

also make sure your bios is up to date incase its an incompatibility at all.
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August 17, 2013 5:44:36 AM

mauller07 said:
oh right i see, yeah driver fusion is the updated version of driver sweeper so it could make a difference.

the flip queue is a brilliant change, it makes the cpu prepare fewer frames ahead of the gpu from its default of 3 and tends to reduce stutter and input lag when you change it to a lower value from the default of 3.

also make sure your bios is up to date incase its an incompatibility at all.


Hmmm... Nice i think this worked! Will report back soon, or tomorrow. If i don't get this problem anymore then it's awsome! Thanks for the help. If it happens again the stutter, i guess ill try updating my mobo drivers. If not. Will be lurking around again!

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August 17, 2013 5:47:28 AM

Spoke too soon! Had a good round of CS : GO and thought this was all over. Then bam! second round stutter everywhere! GOd damn
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August 17, 2013 5:48:37 AM

I'll try more stuff tomorrow. Too tired for now, guess ill just play fullscreen or something :S no more multitasking when i die
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August 17, 2013 5:53:21 AM

what antivirus are you using by chance? firaaero
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August 17, 2013 6:00:30 AM

mauller07 said:
what antivirus are you using by chance? firaaero


Hmm. Avast! Never speculated my antivirus. But i might try uninstall it since i don't really need an anti-virus, just have it for the sake of it.
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August 17, 2013 6:05:28 AM

i would get rid of avast, it could be the problem, its a terrible system hog and can cause all kinds of performance problems, its horrendous how people reccomend it to anyone.

grab AVG instead if you want an antivirus.
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August 17, 2013 6:08:26 AM

mauller07 said:
i would get rid of avast, it could be the problem, its a terrible system hog and can cause all kinds of performance problems, its horrendous how people reccomend it to anyone.

grab AVG instead if you want an antivirus.


Sorry, not too fond of AVG. Just got rid of Avast though. AVG has too many false positives on it. Probably don't need an anti-virus anyways. Havent gotten one in a while, if i do, i could just system restore or run malware bytes in a safe mode
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August 17, 2013 6:09:58 AM

no worries, i would run ccleaner file cleaner then the registry cleaner multiple times also after removing avast.
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August 17, 2013 6:13:38 AM

mauller07 said:
no worries, i would run ccleaner file cleaner then the registry cleaner multiple times also after removing avast.


Ohhh thumbs up for that! You keep reminding me of all these useful programs that i have!
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August 17, 2013 6:29:15 AM

Hmm, started up a live stream on my second monitor and started making my game stutter :/ 
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August 17, 2013 6:37:42 AM

what you using to stream? if its xsplit its a bloated pile of crap, try open broadcaster instead its lightweight and has a 64bit client, it also uses less resources for the same resolution and bitrate as well as the client itself being far more light weight than xsplit.
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August 17, 2013 6:47:10 AM

mauller07 said:
what you using to stream? if its xsplit its a bloated pile of crap, try open broadcaster instead its lightweight and has a 64bit client, it also uses less resources for the same resolution and bitrate as well as the client itself being far more light weight than xsplit.


naa i was watching a livestream, wasnt doing one. I took off my second monitor, didnt experience any stutter... I think theres something with amd and multimonitor setups or something? got a friend with a 7950 though, he doesnt have any problems :S
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August 17, 2013 6:50:30 AM

how is your monitor connected? maybe try using a different connection.

you might want to reinstall flash player, it could be broken as well, could also disable hardware acceleration on flash and see if it makes a difference.
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August 17, 2013 7:19:00 AM

mauller07 said:
how is your monitor connected? maybe try using a different connection.

you might want to reinstall flash player, it could be broken as well, could also disable hardware acceleration on flash and see if it makes a difference.


Using a DVI on my second monitor and a HDMI on my primary. I am going to get a VGA cable if i can find one and try that out.
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August 17, 2013 8:02:05 AM

i would try flash player still, it can cause funny problems like that, especially with hardware support enabled if its bugged out.
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August 17, 2013 8:07:20 AM

Hey mauler... My issue is only with the new ffxiv beta. Metro LL plays perfect on max settings 1920x1200
any ideas
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August 17, 2013 8:13:30 AM

well you just summed up the problem, its a beta,you cant expect it to be perfect, you might want to reinstall the client from fresh if its had a large update recently.
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August 17, 2013 5:08:56 PM

FinalHunter said:
Well It turns out quite a few people seem to be experiencing the same problem with the 7000 series radeons. I'm not sure if their is anything we can do to fix it.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ARR-Test/threads/101077-Ra...


Can't access those forums :(  anywyays, using a VGA cable made no difference.... This sucks.
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August 17, 2013 9:32:56 PM

Well it seems that 13.4 drivers seems to have fixed it Firaaero. lower performance but they work. so I guess its a win
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August 20, 2013 6:16:34 AM

Ehh, i reinstalled 13.8 beta like the 1000th time, think it done the trick 0.o but uhh. I ran minecraft and it ran like poop. Is that normal? I mean 7970?
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August 21, 2013 4:27:49 AM

If like me you had issues installing the first one you may notice something slightly amusing with the installer on this one. :whistle:  ;) 
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August 21, 2013 8:45:35 PM

I have also posted many threads about this in the past :/  how long have yo uhad your 7970 for masakuruwolverine?
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August 22, 2013 4:56:16 AM

Oh god, installed 13.8beta 2 and its evven worse stutter on cs go than before! Oh god
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August 22, 2013 5:02:47 AM

Maybe just swap it out for a titan?
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August 22, 2013 5:05:25 AM

something someone else done that sorted a problem with their card is to lower your vcore slightly.

should be able to do it with msi afterburner.
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August 22, 2013 5:13:25 AM

mauller07 said:
something someone else done that sorted a problem with their card is to lower your vcore slightly.

should be able to do it with msi afterburner.


On MSI afterburner it says my 'Core Voltage' ('mV)' is on the lowest slider. I cant even move it up or down :S

EDIT:
OH yeah shiettt, i forgot my Gigabyte 7970 GHz edition is voltage locked. So uhh. Kinda screwed there :S
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August 22, 2013 6:07:03 AM

Okay, i think its something to do with my second monitor at this point. I kinda took over this thread :/  Hope OP doesnt mind :( 
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August 22, 2013 6:38:39 AM

firaaero said:
Okay, i think its something to do with my second monitor at this point. I kinda took over this thread :/  Hope OP doesnt mind :( 


I'm beginning to, especially seeing some of the language being used (and quoted).
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