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fabby :
Ok, so around 2 weeks ago I was having issues with my internet mainly being my bandwidth feeling a lot limited due to the fact that I was unable to stream to twitch TV anymore due to insufficient bandwidth, I have been streaming fine for 2 months until 2 weeks ago due to that problem. So I started trouble shooting everything, checking my network card, virus's, malware, etc. Everything fine, then I check my actual power levels and noticed my upload power level was at 54, while my download power levels were fine. Book a technician he comes, replaced a wire outside my house and leaves, upload power level goes down to 52, still too high. Call another, he replaces an even longer wire that was torn and it's back down to 43. I thought that my have fixed it but nothing had changed, call another technician he tests my line and stuff, says it's fine but there was a report about a node on a pole that was having network problems, next day come and i'm told that the node was fixed. My problems still persist with my bandwidth, I have another technician come out, but this time he brought along a friend, a supervisor, and someone to work on the node manually. Like all other technicians they run the ol' speed test and it's giving proper speeds. They check everything around my house, test my signal, check the node, everything is fine, speedtest is fine, and still my problem persists and the bandwidth is still fluctuating. Now i'm stuck posting here and seeing what alternatives I have other than switching to FIOS.
Thanks.
P.S. i'm not even sure how to explain my problem to the employee's when they all only check how your speed tests are doing?
Edit - my wireless gateway was also replaced on the 3rd visit.
Oh and example, not wanting to advertise but here's my examples..
http://www.twitch.tv/fable687/b/443265424 starts around 5:45
compared to like,
http://www.twitch.tv/fable687/b/436840475
where I stream for 3 hours with 0 frames dropped, and starting 2 weeks ago this new problem arose where just 5 mins in I get tons of frame drops, and when I go check why something is up with my bandwidth..
thanks.
~fabbbyyy
By "upload power" do you mean upload rate? Who is your ISP and what package do you have from them?
Oh now upload speed/rate it's something else that deals with the modem signal which shouldn't be a factor now since its fixed sorry for the confusion and I have comcast 50 down 11 up
Okay. The reason I asked is because you talk about signal power as if lower is better, it's the other way around. "upload power level of 54" doesn't mean much. There are two separate metrics which are important for gauging signal quality.
First is Signal Power or RMS signal amplitude. This is measured in dBmV, or a logarithmic ratio relative to 1 millivolt RMS. This ratio is logarithmic, so a 1 millivolt signal would have 0 dBmV. Why? 10Log(1mv real signal / 1mv reference signal) = 0. dB stands for deciBel, Bel indicates that it's a logarithmic value, and deci indicates that it's one tenth, 88dB = 8.8B. The output of the Log() function is multiplied by ten to convert it from Bels to deciBels.
If the signal power is too low, the receiving amplifier won't be able to make any sense of it as it will be indistinguishable from background noise. If the signal power is too high, it could damage the equipment.
For DOCSIS 1.x - 3.x (cable) the signal power has a wide valid range of +8dBmv to upwards of +52dBmv depending on the particular standard. This means that RMS signal amplitudes between 2.5 millivolts and almost 800 millivolts are valid. However, the recommended range is between 35 dBmV and 52 dBmV. Some standards allow for it to go a bit higher, so if it was at 54 dBmV you were already in a good position.
The second, and immensely more important metric is the signal to noise ratio. When the receiver amplifies the signal that was sent along the line it also amplifies the thermal, radio frequency, and electrical noise on the line. Coaxial cable is rather well shielded but it is not immune to noise entirely. specifically, RG-59 cable used to deploy most cable networks in the late 20th century is not suitable for digital transmission and should be replaced with RG-6 cable. The signal to noise ratio works a lot like the signal strength. It's logarithmic but rather than compare a real signal to a reference value, it compares the ratio of the RMS signal amplitude to the RMS noise amplitude (or the signal power to the noise power since they're directly related by a factor of two). Since SNR is a relative ratio between two values of the same unit rather than absolute value itself, it's measured in dB rather than dBmV.
In an ideal world noise wouldn't exist. This would mean that the SNR would be 10Log(Vsignal/0) which would be undefined due to zero noise. Even if the noise were present but infinitesimally small the SNR would approach infinity. This means that a high SNR is very desirable as it makes it easier to separate the signal from the noise, which reduces the occurrence of transmission errors at any particular transmission rate. Since the SNR can approach infinity there's no upper cap on the SNR but typical SNR for cable hookups is in the 30-40 range.
You can see here that when it comes to signals, higher ratios are generally better.
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11 megabits per second is 1.375 megabytes per second. Decent enough to stream but it doesn't leave a whole lot of room for overhead. Have you tested this when you are the only person on the internet in your residence, or even better when you are the only person connected to the uplink? If not, please do so.
Finally, DOCSIS uses shared nodes. The upstream and downstream bandwidth to each node is quite high, that node then branches off to connect to a number of households. Cable companies usually leave a bit of overhead on each node to ensure quality of service but occasional congestion is not unheard of. If someone nearby is torrenting 24/7, they may have an impact on your quality of service, especially considering that most cable companies configure the data channels for optimal download rates rather than upload rates. Rather than having your cable company fiddle with your line, have them check the node.
Let me know if you have any further questions.