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Intel 4570+ HD 7850 or AMD FX-6300+ HD 7870 for gaming

Should I get the Intel 4570 and the HD 7850 or the AMD FX-6300 and the HD 7870. I didn't feel that the HD 7870 would do me any better than the HD7850. This is partially because I use an ancient computer! What do you think? Should I save the extra money I get by choosing the FX 6300 or spend it to get a slightly better HD 7870 instead of the HD 7850? Or should I not choose the FX 6300 in the first place? FYI I will be gaming. I am more comfortable with the Intel, for some reason. I feel the AMD is mysteriously lower priced for some reason(con). What do you think?
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  1. what's ur total budget and location? u can probably get an i5 and a 7870 (how much more does it cost compared to the 7850) or a GTX 660
  2. In a gaming rig, it's your video card

    Buy the best video card you can afford.
  3. AMD + 7870 would be the one I would suggest. Anyways tell us your budget. We might be able to fit in a better graphics card for the same price.

    But for now I would say AMD FX 6300 + 7870 would be more powerful for gaming.
  4. jinayhvora said:
    what's ur total budget and location? u can probably get an i5 and a 7870 (how much more does it cost compared to the 7850) or a GTX 660

    My budget is expandable. But as of now, it is around $1150-1200. My location is India. Well, the 7850 is around $252 and the 7870 is $275. BTW:

    Which should I get?
  5. Okay, so what is your budget in Rupees. I also live in India.

    And do you need a monitor?
  6. Best answer
    u can easily get an i5 and a 7870 or even a 760 at that budget
  7. If you need a Monitor, then this should be the one to get. It is a very powerful rig which would play any game you throw at it at 1080p high-ultra at more than 40-50 FPS easily without breaking a sweat and also it is well within your budget.

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 Quad Core (₹12375 @ Flipkart)
    Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Motherboard (₹4150 @ Flipkart)
    RAM: 2 x Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 4 GB 1600Mhz (₹5026 @ Flipkart)
    HDD: WD Blue WD10EZEX 1 TB (₹4032 @ Flipkart)
    Video Card: ZOTAC GTX 760 AMP Edition 2GB (₹23693 @ Flipkart)
    PSU: Seasonic S12II 620 Watts PSU (₹5199 @ Flipkart)
    Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R (₹4965 @ TheItDepot)
    DVD Drive: Asus DRW-24D3ST DVD Burner (Black) (₹1114 @ Flipkart)
    Monitor: Dell S2240L 21.5 inch LED (₹9396 @ Flipkart)
    Total: ₹69950
  8. Sangeet Khatri said:
    Okay, so what is your budget in Rupees. I also live in India.

    And do you need a monitor?

    My total budget is Rs.70,000
  9. ssayand-1385890 said:
    Sangeet Khatri said:
    Okay, so what is your budget in Rupees. I also live in India.

    And do you need a monitor?

    My total budget is Rs.70,000


    If that is the case, then refer to the build I posted above. It is the best for your budget and needs.
  10. jinayhvora said:
    u can easily get an i5 and a 7870 or even a 760 at that budget


    Sangeet Khatri said:
    ssayand-1385890 said:
    Sangeet Khatri said:
    Okay, so what is your budget in Rupees. I also live in India.

    And do you need a monitor?

    My total budget is Rs.70,000


    If that is the case, then refer to the build I posted above. It is the best for your budget and needs.


    These are the potential specs for the potential computer:

    As of now, the grand total is Rs. 53021 or $873. One important thing I forgot to mention is that I am open saving. What I mean is that just cause I have a budget of $1200 or Rs. 70,000. I am not comfortable with buying a GPU worth Rs. 20,000 or $330. The maximum I am willing to spend on the GPU is Rs.17,000 or $280.
  11. in that case a GTX 660 will do u good (i forgot but i believe it costs under 17) but if u can afford it a 760 will be an excellent upgrade over the 660
  12. Can I please know that why are you not comfortable in buying a 20,000 Rupees GPU? I mean it is the most important component when it comes to gaming. Other than that you have got everything covered, now you just need to spend more on the graphics card.

    The 760 should be the one you should get as it is within your budget and it is much more awesome than the 7870 or a 660 or even a 660 Ti.

    Please, go for the 760. You would be much happier with that.
  13. Sangeet Khatri said:
    If you need a Monitor, then this should be the one to get. It is a very powerful rig which would play any game you throw at it at 1080p high-ultra at more than 40-50 FPS easily without breaking a sweat and also it is well within your budget.

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 Quad Core (₹12375 @ Flipkart)
    Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Motherboard (₹4150 @ Flipkart)
    RAM: 2 x Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 4 GB 1600Mhz (₹5026 @ Flipkart)
    HDD: WD Blue WD10EZEX 1 TB (₹4032 @ Flipkart)
    Video Card: ZOTAC GTX 760 AMP Edition 2GB (₹23693 @ Flipkart)
    PSU: Seasonic S12II 620 Watts PSU (₹5199 @ Flipkart)
    Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R (₹4965 @ TheItDepot)
    DVD Drive: Asus DRW-24D3ST DVD Burner (Black) (₹1114 @ Flipkart)
    Monitor: Dell S2240L 21.5 inch LED (₹9396 @ Flipkart)
    Total: ₹69950


    I'm not very familiar with Nvidia cards. Can you please tell me the pros of getting the card you mentioned (Zotac GTX 660) instead of the XFX HD 7870 that I mentioned.
    Also, please mention the advantages of getting an Nvidia card over an AMD (ATi) card. Most of my friends are recommending Nvidia, but they were talking out of experience with the HD 7790 and the GTX 560(I think). One aspect of Zotac that I did not like is that it does not match with the coloring scheme of my chassis' fan lights.
  14. NVidiahave generally better driver support, though by now even AMDs are good enough, the 760 can beta the 7870 and runs head-t0-head with a 7950
    if u don't like the Zotac Colours u can wait for the other manufacturer's cards to come out
  15. You should at least get a 80 Plus Bronze PSU for that expensive rig and hence get the Seasonic 620W PSU which has much less failure rate than the Corsair PSU which is just 80 Plus and hence unsuitable for this rig.

    Also the 300R is a better overall performer, but the HAF 912 Plus is not a bad case either. It is just that I prefer the 300R more. If you find a windowed version of the 300R then go for that one instead.

    Also you should get two sticks of memory as getting a single stick of RAM can potentially degrade performance.

    So think about these things. Especially the PSU and RAM as it is important for a rig that is priced so high.
  16. There is really nothing like one company is better than the other. It is just at particular price points a card from one company is better or cheaper for the same price so we recommend that one instead. It is never Nvidia vs AMD. It is just card vs card. I mean it depends on price and performance. That is all.

    Both Nvidia and AMD are head to head with each other. There is no winner between the two of them.
  17. Sangeet Khatri said:
    Can I please know that why are you not comfortable in buying a 20,000 Rupees GPU? I mean it is the most important component when it comes to gaming. Other than that you have got everything covered, now you just need to spend more on the graphics card.

    The 760 should be the one you should get as it is within your budget and it is much more awesome than the 7870 or a 660 or even a 660 Ti.

    Please, go for the 760. You would be much happier with that.


    I am not too comfortable with the concept of a 20000 GPU because, well I don't know, I think I'll be using my computer for single threaded stuff a little more than multi threaded( I am assuming that single threaded means Web, Youtube, Torrents; and multi threaded means Games overall). I don't mean that games will be like once every 2 weeks or anything. Also, the concept of a Rs.20000($330) GPU is just plain crazy to me, because I'm not that intense of a gamer.
    Also, the link you mentioned in your previous solution is for the 660. I'll be ordering all my parts from flipkart, and on flipkart, I found that a 760 costs 21-24000: Just not gonna happen(My mind is wired that way).
    So now it's between these two:

    Between these two, price is not a problem. The only problem in my mind is that the Zotac cooler will stand out(Orange color) from my Blue lighted interiors =bad. But however, for these prices, I don't think that matters much! So, please tell me the name of the one which has better performance overall. If any, please state the difference between AMD and Nvidia, specifically between these cards.
    In the end, I want the biggest bang for my buck!
  18. Sangeet Khatri said:

    Also you should get two sticks of memory as getting a single stick of RAM can potentially degrade performance.

    Does a heat spreader do any difference in RAM?
  19. jinayhvora said:
    NVidiahave generally better driver support, though by now even AMDs are good enough, the 760 can beta the 7870 and runs head-t0-head with a 7950
    if u don't like the Zotac Colours u can wait for the other manufacturer's cards to come out

    Any particular company that is best at the GTX760?
  20. Sangeet Khatri said:
    You should at least get a 80 Plus Bronze PSU for that expensive rig and hence get the Seasonic 620W PSU which has much less failure rate than the Corsair PSU which is just 80 Plus and hence unsuitable for this rig.

    Also the 300R is a better overall performer, but the HAF 912 Plus is not a bad case either. It is just that I prefer the 300R more. If you find a windowed version of the 300R then go for that one instead.

    Also you should get two sticks of memory as getting a single stick of RAM can potentially degrade performance.

    So think about these things. Especially the PSU and RAM as it is important for a rig that is priced so high.

    Okay, so I've changed the potential PSU but the thing about the RAM is a bit of a story:
    I selected the Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4gb), but it was not compatible with my mobo. So I decided to get the Corsair Vengeance 8GB. The reason why I selected the corsair Vengeance was cause I thought the heat spreader would do me good. Also, please don't try to restrict the important parts, because of their cost. As I told you earlier, my budget is expandable to fit the parts.
    Also, the Kingston RAM you mentioned is not compatible with my mobo. Can you please select the RAM from this list of compatible RAM:

    Also, I think I'll go with the HAF 912 instead. I like the design a little more.
    P.S Thanks for advising me about the PSU. I was not very sure about the performance of my earlier selected PSU.
  21. ssayand-1385890 said:
    jinayhvora said:
    what's ur total budget and location? u can probably get an i5 and a 7870 (how much more does it cost compared to the 7850) or a GTX 660

    My budget is expandable. But as of now, it is around $1150-1200. My location is India. Well, the 7850 is around $252 and the 7870 is $275. BTW:

    Which should I get?


    $275 for a 7870, wow prices must be high in india.
  22. thanksforthefish87 said:
    ssayand-1385890 said:
    jinayhvora said:
    what's ur total budget and location? u can probably get an i5 and a 7870 (how much more does it cost compared to the 7850) or a GTX 660

    My budget is expandable. But as of now, it is around $1150-1200. My location is India. Well, the 7850 is around $252 and the 7870 is $275. BTW:

    Which should I get?


    $275 for a 7870, wow prices must be high in india.

    What!? How much is a 7870 where you live? Can you please state the cost of a GTX 660 and 760?
  23. ssayand-1385890 said:
    thanksforthefish87 said:
    ssayand-1385890 said:
    jinayhvora said:
    what's ur total budget and location? u can probably get an i5 and a 7870 (how much more does it cost compared to the 7850) or a GTX 660

    My budget is expandable. But as of now, it is around $1150-1200. My location is India. Well, the 7850 is around $252 and the 7870 is $275. BTW:

    Which should I get?


    $275 for a 7870, wow prices must be high in india.

    What!? How much is a 7870 where you live? Can you please state the cost of a GTX 660 and 760?



    U.S.A prices:

    760: $250
    7870: $185
    660: $210
  24. thanksforthefish87 said:
    ssayand-1385890 said:
    thanksforthefish87 said:
    ssayand-1385890 said:
    jinayhvora said:
    what's ur total budget and location? u can probably get an i5 and a 7870 (how much more does it cost compared to the 7850) or a GTX 660

    My budget is expandable. But as of now, it is around $1150-1200. My location is India. Well, the 7850 is around $252 and the 7870 is $275. BTW:

    Which should I get?


    $275 for a 7870, wow prices must be high in india.

    What!? How much is a 7870 where you live? Can you please state the cost of a GTX 660 and 760?



    U.S.A prices:

    770: $250
    7870: $185
    660: $210

    Damn! This makes me want to move to USA!
  25. 770 for 250? more like 760,
    anyway u can have ur stuff imported from the US, there honestly isn't a resonable difference in prices of other major components except GPUs, but u can use some intermediate shipping companies to get ur stuff from the US
  26. jinayhvora said:
    770 for 250? more like 760,
    anyway u can have ur stuff imported from the US, there honestly isn't a resonable difference in prices of other major components except GPUs, but u can use some intermediate shipping companies to get ur stuff from the US


    Edit: Typo I meant 760
  27. jinayhvora said:
    770 for 250? more like 760,
    anyway u can have ur stuff imported from the US, there honestly isn't a resonable difference in prices of other major components except GPUs, but u can use some intermediate shipping companies to get ur stuff from the US

    Can you name a few?
    Also, I think that the customs here makes us pay Rs.61 for every $1 of the product! $1 is Rs61 anyway. So that means if I order a $250 product, then I have to pay $500($250+$250)!
    Tell me If I'm wrong.
  28. Can anyone please select the RAM from this list of compatible RAM?
    Here's the list:

    1. Corsair DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMV4GX3M1A1333C9) [http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-ddr3-4-gb-1-x-gb-pc-ram...]
    2. Corsair DDR3 4 GB(1 x 4GB) PC RAM (CMV4GX3M1A1600C11) [http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-ddr3-4-gb-1-x-4gb-pc-ra...]
    3. G.Skill Sniper DDR3 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) PC RAM (F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR) [http://www.flipkart.com/g-skill-sniper-ddr3-8-gb-2-x-4-...]
  29. ssayand-1385890 said:
    jinayhvora said:
    770 for 250? more like 760,
    anyway u can have ur stuff imported from the US, there honestly isn't a resonable difference in prices of other major components except GPUs, but u can use some intermediate shipping companies to get ur stuff from the US

    Can you name a few?
    Also, I think that the customs here makes us pay Rs.61 for every $1 of the product! $1 is Rs61 anyway. So that means if I order a $250 product, then I have to pay $500($250+$250)!
    Tell me If I'm wrong.


    check this one out http://www.shipito.com/
    i have no knowledge of customs, but it certainly isn't that high or the card would cost double of what it already does
  30. go with i5

    7870/gtx 660
  31. ssayand-1385890 said:
    Can anyone please select the RAM from this list of compatible RAM?
    Here's the list:

    1. Corsair DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMV4GX3M1A1333C9) [http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-ddr3-4-gb-1-x-gb-pc-ram...]
    2. Corsair DDR3 4 GB(1 x 4GB) PC RAM (CMV4GX3M1A1600C11) [http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-ddr3-4-gb-1-x-4gb-pc-ra...]
    3. G.Skill Sniper DDR3 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) PC RAM (F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR) [http://www.flipkart.com/g-skill-sniper-ddr3-8-gb-2-x-4-...]


    Your choice of RAMs should be largely driven by your motherboard selection and their 'qualified vendor list' which you should review.

    Otherwise, the FX6300 - Asus M5A97 R2 was around Rs 14500. That was the best deal that I saw that would pair-up with the fastest video card you can afford.
  32. I have a similar expandible budget.
    My mind is wired in a similar way as to not allow me to spend 20k+ on a gpu

    And
    In my build also the budget needs to adjust around the Haf 912 with window (and a sexy blue led fan on it)

    So here is my buile which i am going to buy from lamington road mumbai in a few days

    Fx 6300. 7500rs
    Asus m5a97evo r2.0 7500rs
    gskill rpijaws x 2x4gb 5400rs
    seasonic s12ii 620w 5200rs
    haf912 w Window 5500rs
    Wd blue 1tb 4000rs
    Dell s2240l 8500rs(not sure of monitor)
    7870 -16k rs or gtx 760 - 21k rs (confused here) (but Will mostly go with the 7870)

    But I was thinking of a crossfire after 2years! So still not sure of the x16 x4 pci will bottleneck 2x7870
  33. with that kind of a budget, u do not get a 6300
    Get an i5
  34. jinayhvora said:
    with that kind of a budget, u do not get a 6300
    Get an i5


    IF it was aimed at me, can you help me make one please?
  35. acid1drinker said:
    jinayhvora said:
    with that kind of a budget, u do not get a 6300
    Get an i5


    IF it was aimed at me, can you help me make one please?

    I think he was talking to you in the first place.
  36. acid1drinker said:
    I have a similar expandible budget.
    My mind is wired in a similar way as to not allow me to spend 20k+ on a gpu

    And
    In my build also the budget needs to adjust around the Haf 912 with window (and a sexy blue led fan on it)

    So here is my buile which i am going to buy from lamington road mumbai in a few days

    Fx 6300. 7500rs
    Asus m5a97evo r2.0 7500rs
    gskill rpijaws x 2x4gb 5400rs
    seasonic s12ii 620w 5200rs
    haf912 w Window 5500rs
    Wd blue 1tb 4000rs
    Dell s2240l 8500rs(not sure of monitor)
    7870 -16k rs or gtx 760 - 21k rs (confused here) (but Will mostly go with the 7870)

    But I was thinking of a crossfire after 2years! So still not sure of the x16 x4 pci will bottleneck 2x7870


    You have a good build.

    The issue with a CrossFire in 2 years is that 20nm video cards will be 'mature' and a single video card solution is always preferable to 2 video cards.

    If a future Crossfire is the course you wish to pursue, the Asus 990X Evo would be the appropriate motherboard solution.
  37. Wisecracker said:
    acid1drinker said:
    I have a similar expandible budget.
    My mind is wired in a similar way as to not allow me to spend 20k+ on a gpu

    And
    In my build also the budget needs to adjust around the Haf 912 with window (and a sexy blue led fan on it)

    So here is my buile which i am going to buy from lamington road mumbai in a few days

    Fx 6300. 7500rs
    Asus m5a97evo r2.0 7500rs
    gskill rpijaws x 2x4gb 5400rs
    seasonic s12ii 620w 5200rs
    haf912 w Window 5500rs
    Wd blue 1tb 4000rs
    Dell s2240l 8500rs(not sure of monitor)
    7870 -16k rs or gtx 760 - 21k rs (confused here) (but Will mostly go with the 7870)

    But I was thinking of a crossfire after 2years! So still not sure of the x16 x4 pci will bottleneck 2x7870


    You have a good build.

    The issue with a CrossFire in 2 years is that 20nm video cards will be 'mature' and a single video card solution is always preferable to 2 video cards.

    If a future Crossfire is the course you wish to pursue, the Asus 990X Evo would be the appropriate motherboard solution.



    Thanks for the input sir. Can you please help me more elaborately over here: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1802692/confused-7870-7870xt-gtx-760-7950.html
    Please i am very confused and need a pc soon ;(
  38. I still believe u should stick with an i5 for the budget, due to both better raw CPU performance and xhipset features, if u really wanna go AMD (which i dont recommend) get atleast the 8320
    I would make a build for u, but right now my PC is kinda down, give me a day or two
  39. jinayhvora said:
    I still believe u should stick with an i5 for the budget, due to both better raw CPU performance and xhipset features, if u really wanna go AMD (which i dont recommend) get atleast the 8320
    I would make a build for u, but right now my PC is kinda down, give me a day or two


    Okay, but i need to take a quick decision within 2days max! Please if possible try and help a bit faster :(
  40. He can't do it.

    For the price of a comparable Intel processor, you may purchase both the FX6300 & Asus M5A97 motherboard.
  41. Wisecracker said:

    He can't do it.

    For the price of a comparable Intel processor, you may purchase both the FX6300 & Asus M5A97 motherboard.



    Even I know, but he seems confident enough so no harm in waiting ;-)
  42. Easy for u to say when it's middle of the night here and ur PC is not virus infected, and how can u even cmpare a 6300 to an i5, if u were talking about 8320/50 I could have understood but not a 6300, sorry
    So here u have my build, with an i5 and a GTX 770 for 71k, which I consider awesome for the price


    CPU Intel Core i5 4570 Rs 14750

    Motherboard: GA-B85M-D3H Rs 6400

    Some Lamington Road stores were giving this combo for Rs 20500 when I last checked, that was when Haswell CPUs had just arrived there

    RAM Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600 it's about 2100 on flipkart, but it's out od stock, check at Lamington Road

    EDIT: Forgot to mention, get 2 of these, i have included the price of 2 in the total

    GPU: GTX 770....Rs 30-32k approx, depending on brand, flipkart has a very poor selection currently so can't link

    HDD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda Rs 4500

    Case: get anything which the shop recommends, make sure it has front panel USB 3.0, these ppl keep a good seleaction from brands like NZXT, CM, again flipkart has a poor selection here

    PSU: This is important, do not get the local PSU that the shop guy tells u, get this Seasonic 520W Bronze Certified Rs 4750
  43. Easy for u to say when it's middle of the night here and ur PC is not virus infected, and how can u even cmpare a 6300 to an i5, if u were talking about 8320/50 I could have understood but not a 6300, sorry
    So here u have my build, with an i5 and a GTX 770 for 71k, which I consider awesome for the price
    CPU Intel Core i5 4570 Rs 14750
    Motherboard: GA-B85M-D3H Rs 6400
    Some Lamington Road stores were giving this combo for Rs 20500 when I last checked, that was when Haswell CPUs had justarrived there
    RAM [http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-xms3-ddr3-4-gb-1-x-gb-pc-ram-cmx4gx3m1a1600c9/p/itmd2ryprvhxjqcu] Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600 it's about 2100 on flipkart, but it's out od stock, check at Lamington Road
    GPU: GTX 770....Rs 30-32k approx, depending on brand, flipkart has a very poor selection currently so can't link
    HDD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda Rs 4500
    Case: get anything which the shop recommends, make sure it has front panel USB 3.0, these ppl keep a good seleaction from brands like NZXT, CM, again flipkart has a poor selection here
    PSU: This is important, do not get the local PSU that the shop guy tells u, get this Seasonic 520W Bronze Certified Rs 4750




    4GB ram isnt sufficent. [Another 4gigs increases the build to 72.5k]
    You haven't included a monitor. [That increases your build to 80k - my budget is 65k max ]
    The best way to survive in the continuous ever changing technology is to not overspend at 1 time rather save and upgrade more often to what is required! [Therefore not really a fan of the 770]
  44. i have edited my build a little, check it out, if u want a monitor in the budget then the only logical choice is stepping down to a 760 and upgrading later
  45. jinayhvora said:
    i have edited my build a little, check it out, if u want a monitor in the budget then the only logical choice is stepping down to a 760 and upgrading later


    Your build:

    Intel i5 4570 -14.5k
    Ram - 4.2k
    Psu - 4.7k
    mobo - 6.4k
    moinotr - 8.5k
    760 - 21k
    1tb- 4.5k
    Case Haf 912 - 5.5k
    ----------------
    Total = 68.8k

    My build:
    Fx 6300. 7500rs
    Asus m5a97evo r2.0 7500rs
    gskill rpijaws x 2x4gb 5400rs
    seasonic s12ii 620w 5200rs
    haf912 w Window 5500rs
    Wd blue 1tb 4000rs
    Dell s2240l 8500rs
    7870 -16k or 760 -21k
    ------------------------------------
    Total = 59.6k or 64.6k

    I think ill stick with my own build as my max budget is 65k!
  46. fine, if u want to stick to AMD get an 8320, do not get a 6300
    and i though i was making a build for the OP?
  47. jinayhvora said:
    fine, if u want to stick to AMD get an 8320, do not get a 6300
    and i though i was making a build for the OP?


    But then i need to compromise on my graphic card.
    It's either 6300+760 or 8320+7870?
  48. u will have no problems with the 6300 for now, but remember it will bottleneck any GPU better than the 760-7950
  49. jinayhvora said:
    u will have no problems with the 6300 for now, but remember it will bottleneck any GPU better than the 760-7950


    Will it bottleneck 9850/9870 ?

    I am not going to upgrade/change my build for atleast 2.5 years. After which i will be in my final year of undergraduation so i wont be playing much [except for Dota ;P]

    So This rig is going to be my companion for 4 years of gaming and coding! [Without any significant upgrades]
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