Intel 4570+ HD 7850 or AMD FX-6300+ HD 7870 for gaming

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Should I get the Intel 4570 and the HD 7850 or the AMD FX-6300 and the HD 7870. I didn't feel that the HD 7870 would do me any better than the HD7850. This is partially because I use an ancient computer! What do you think? Should I save the extra money I get by choosing the FX 6300 or spend it to get a slightly better HD 7870 instead of the HD 7850? Or should I not choose the FX 6300 in the first place? FYI I will be gaming. I am more comfortable with the Intel, for some reason. I feel the AMD is mysteriously lower priced for some reason(con). What do you think?
 

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My budget is expandable. But as of now, it is around $1150-1200. My location is India. Well, the 7850 is around $252 and the 7870 is $275. BTW:

  • The ZOTAC GTX 660 is $258
    The ASUS HD 7850 is $268
    The XFX HD 7870 is $275
Which should I get?
 
If you need a Monitor, then this should be the one to get. It is a very powerful rig which would play any game you throw at it at 1080p high-ultra at more than 40-50 FPS easily without breaking a sweat and also it is well within your budget.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 Quad Core (₹12375 @ Flipkart)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Motherboard (₹4150 @ Flipkart)
RAM: 2 x Kingston HyperX Blu DDR3 4 GB 1600Mhz (₹5026 @ Flipkart)
HDD: WD Blue WD10EZEX 1 TB (₹4032 @ Flipkart)
Video Card: ZOTAC GTX 760 AMP Edition 2GB (₹23693 @ Flipkart)
PSU: Seasonic S12II 620 Watts PSU (₹5199 @ Flipkart)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R (₹4965 @ TheItDepot)
DVD Drive: Asus DRW-24D3ST DVD Burner (Black) (₹1114 @ Flipkart)
Monitor: Dell S2240L 21.5 inch LED (₹9396 @ Flipkart)
Total: ₹69950
 


If that is the case, then refer to the build I posted above. It is the best for your budget and needs.
 

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These are the potential specs for the potential computer:

  • Processor:- Intel 3.2 GHz LGA1150 i5 4th Generation Processor - Rs. 14231 or $234
    Motherboard:- MSI H87M-G43 Motherboard- Rs. 6685 or $110
    RAM:- Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) PC RAM (CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10)- Rs. 5245 or $86
    HDD:-WD Blue WD10EZEX 1 TB Internal Hard Drive - Rs. 4032 or $66- same one as you suggested
    Video Card:- Well, that's why I'm here
    PSU:-Corsair CMPSU-600GUK 600 Watts PSU- Rs. 4925 or $81- BTW I'm adding fan lights
    Chassis(Case):-Cooler Master HAF 912 Combat Transparent Side Panel Mid Tower Cabinet - Rs. 6594 or $108 - There's no way I'm changing this case to accommodate the budget. The budget will accommodate the case.
    DVD Drive:- I'm not buying this because I have a brand new one already. But Just FYI its HP dvd 1135
    Monitor:- Dell S2240L 21.5 inch LED Backlit LCD Monitor (Black)- Rs. 9396 or $154 - Same one as recommended by you
    Also, I am adding lights. This adds another $16 or Rs. 1000 to the build.
As of now, the grand total is Rs. 53021 or $873. One important thing I forgot to mention is that I am open saving. What I mean is that just cause I have a budget of $1200 or Rs. 70,000. I am not comfortable with buying a GPU worth Rs. 20,000 or $330. The maximum I am willing to spend on the GPU is Rs.17,000 or $280.
 
Can I please know that why are you not comfortable in buying a 20,000 Rupees GPU? I mean it is the most important component when it comes to gaming. Other than that you have got everything covered, now you just need to spend more on the graphics card.

The 760 should be the one you should get as it is within your budget and it is much more awesome than the 7870 or a 660 or even a 660 Ti.

Please, go for the 760. You would be much happier with that.
 

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I'm not very familiar with Nvidia cards. Can you please tell me the pros of getting the card you mentioned (Zotac GTX 660) instead of the XFX HD 7870 that I mentioned.
Also, please mention the advantages of getting an Nvidia card over an AMD (ATi) card. Most of my friends are recommending Nvidia, but they were talking out of experience with the HD 7790 and the GTX 560(I think). One aspect of Zotac that I did not like is that it does not match with the coloring scheme of my chassis' fan lights.
 

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NVidiahave generally better driver support, though by now even AMDs are good enough, the 760 can beta the 7870 and runs head-t0-head with a 7950
if u don't like the Zotac Colours u can wait for the other manufacturer's cards to come out
 
You should at least get a 80 Plus Bronze PSU for that expensive rig and hence get the Seasonic 620W PSU which has much less failure rate than the Corsair PSU which is just 80 Plus and hence unsuitable for this rig.

Also the 300R is a better overall performer, but the HAF 912 Plus is not a bad case either. It is just that I prefer the 300R more. If you find a windowed version of the 300R then go for that one instead.

Also you should get two sticks of memory as getting a single stick of RAM can potentially degrade performance.

So think about these things. Especially the PSU and RAM as it is important for a rig that is priced so high.
 
There is really nothing like one company is better than the other. It is just at particular price points a card from one company is better or cheaper for the same price so we recommend that one instead. It is never Nvidia vs AMD. It is just card vs card. I mean it depends on price and performance. That is all.

Both Nvidia and AMD are head to head with each other. There is no winner between the two of them.
 

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I am not too comfortable with the concept of a 20000 GPU because, well I don't know, I think I'll be using my computer for single threaded stuff a little more than multi threaded( I am assuming that single threaded means Web, Youtube, Torrents; and multi threaded means Games overall). I don't mean that games will be like once every 2 weeks or anything. Also, the concept of a Rs.20000($330) GPU is just plain crazy to me, because I'm not that intense of a gamer.
Also, the link you mentioned in your previous solution is for the 660. I'll be ordering all my parts from flipkart, and on flipkart, I found that a 760 costs 21-24000: Just not gonna happen(My mind is wired that way).
So now it's between these two:

  • ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GTX660 2GB 2 GB DDR5 Graphics Card- 18000 or $296
    OR
    XFX ATI Radeon HD 7870 2 GB DDR5 Graphics Card- 17000 or $280.
Between these two, price is not a problem. The only problem in my mind is that the Zotac cooler will stand out(Orange color) from my Blue lighted interiors =bad. But however, for these prices, I don't think that matters much! So, please tell me the name of the one which has better performance overall. If any, please state the difference between AMD and Nvidia, specifically between these cards.
In the end, I want the biggest bang for my buck!
 

ssayand-1385890

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Any particular company that is best at the GTX760?
 

ssayand-1385890

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Okay, so I've changed the potential PSU but the thing about the RAM is a bit of a story:
I selected the Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4gb), but it was not compatible with my mobo. So I decided to get the Corsair Vengeance 8GB. The reason why I selected the corsair Vengeance was cause I thought the heat spreader would do me good. Also, please don't try to restrict the important parts, because of their cost. As I told you earlier, my budget is expandable to fit the parts.
Also, the Kingston RAM you mentioned is not compatible with my mobo. Can you please select the RAM from this list of compatible RAM:

  • 1. Corsair DDR3 4 GB (1 x 4 GB) PC RAM (CMV4GX3M1A1333C9) [http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-ddr3-4-gb-1-x-gb-pc-ram-cmv4gx3m1a1333c9/p/itmd2ryp2xmmqmsy?pid=RAMD2RYP8CRENWZW&ref=ecbf27c6-c87e-46c7-b0bb-38fa33ce3acc]
    2. Corsair DDR3 4 GB(1 x 4GB) PC RAM (CMV4GX3M1A1600C11) [http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-ddr3-4-gb-1-x-4gb-pc-ram-cmv4gx3m1a1600c11/p/itmdehfpjm5hgjwy?pid=RAMDEHE6XZMZHE9Z&ref=8303ffc9-0332-4af7-80ab-acee0d74d8fc]
    3. G.Skill Sniper DDR3 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) PC RAM (F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR) [http://www.flipkart.com/g-skill-sniper-ddr3-8-gb-2-x-4-gb-pc-ram-f3-12800cl9d-8gbsr/p/itmd2rysgnzymxvq?pid=RAMD2RYRXMDFERF6&ref=5e857eff-c00b-4565-b69c-85f9538bc8e6]
Also, I think I'll go with the HAF 912 instead. I like the design a little more.
P.S Thanks for advising me about the PSU. I was not very sure about the performance of my earlier selected PSU.
 

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$275 for a 7870, wow prices must be high in india.
 

ssayand-1385890

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What!? How much is a 7870 where you live? Can you please state the cost of a GTX 660 and 760?

 

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U.S.A prices:

760: $250
7870: $185
660: $210
 

ssayand-1385890

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Damn! This makes me want to move to USA!