Looking to build a high end pc for the first time. Need a little help.
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Hunter Ashpole
August 10, 2013 11:59:33 AM
I have been toying around with the idea of building my own for the first time since I got Steam. Now I am fully ready to take the dive and build a gaming pc. I already have the monitor, keyboard and the mouse. All I need is a little guidance and some suggestions. I have about $2000 dollars I can sink into this, but no more and I would like to keep as much of that $2000 as I can while having a rather future proofed system.
This is the tower I want to use:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(I like how simple it looks.)
This is the tower I want to use:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(I like how simple it looks.)
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Uther39
August 10, 2013 12:24:14 PM
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ps3hacker12
August 10, 2013 12:27:23 PM
For gaming I can't see going beyond this if its just for gaming:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid CPU Cooler ($57.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($394.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Titanium Grey) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1004.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-10 15:24 EDT-0400)
alternate case you might like:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcade...
If you enjoy fast boot and loading times:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid CPU Cooler ($57.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($165.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($394.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Titanium Grey) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1170.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-10 15:26 EDT-0400)
The system has space for an SLI upgrade in the future too if you want to drop in another GTX770.
If you want even better performance a GTX780 or two 770s would be the way to go.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid CPU Cooler ($57.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($394.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Titanium Grey) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1004.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-10 15:24 EDT-0400)
alternate case you might like:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcade...
If you enjoy fast boot and loading times:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid CPU Cooler ($57.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($165.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($394.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Titanium Grey) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1170.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-10 15:26 EDT-0400)
The system has space for an SLI upgrade in the future too if you want to drop in another GTX770.
If you want even better performance a GTX780 or two 770s would be the way to go.
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I'd probably put about $1200 into the PC and $200 into the display. Get something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.10 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1333.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-10 17:43 EDT-0400)
Nothing wrong with the above build except for the choice of cooler - those Antec Kuhlers are known to have issues associated with them.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.10 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1333.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-10 17:43 EDT-0400)
Nothing wrong with the above build except for the choice of cooler - those Antec Kuhlers are known to have issues associated with them.
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Hunter Ashpole
August 10, 2013 5:59:24 PM
ps3hacker12
August 11, 2013 6:11:22 AM
Hunter Ashpole said:
I know you guys are recommending a mid tower, might I ask why? Wouldn't the full tower have more space for expansions and better airflow?I used your full tower case in the first build
For me its personal preference, i have a mid tower and already feel its pretty damn huge, but if you have the space than a full tower should be no problem.
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Hunter Ashpole
August 11, 2013 8:19:05 AM
ps3hacker12 said:
Hunter Ashpole said:
I know you guys are recommending a mid tower, might I ask why? Wouldn't the full tower have more space for expansions and better airflow?I used your full tower case in the first build
For me its personal preference, i have a mid tower and already feel its pretty damn huge, but if you have the space than a full tower should be no problem.
I latched on to the case because I loved how simple it looked.
As for the builds, would they allow me to play Crysis 3 maxed out? If they can, I would figure I wouldn't have to upgrade it for a few years.
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ps3hacker12
August 11, 2013 9:32:05 AM
Hunter Ashpole
August 11, 2013 12:58:30 PM
ps3hacker12 said:
Yes all of these builds would.If you don't plan on SLIing/adding a second card then the 7970 Ghz edition would be an awesome choice for graphics card too.
Thanks for your help. I think I am going to go for the mid tower found here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It seems like it would have enough room for me to SLI and even add more than 2 drives for added space and data back-up.
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ps3hacker12
August 11, 2013 1:09:56 PM
Hunter Ashpole said:
ps3hacker12 said:
Yes all of these builds would.If you don't plan on SLIing/adding a second card then the 7970 Ghz edition would be an awesome choice for graphics card too.
Thanks for your help. I think I am going to go for the mid tower found here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It seems like it would have enough room for me to SLI and even add more than 2 drives for added space and data back-up.
Yeah thats a great case, remember to include extra case fans in your order IF you want extra case fans, (although its definetely not needed
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Hunter Ashpole
August 11, 2013 1:13:35 PM
ps3hacker12 said:
Hunter Ashpole said:
ps3hacker12 said:
Yes all of these builds would.If you don't plan on SLIing/adding a second card then the 7970 Ghz edition would be an awesome choice for graphics card too.
Thanks for your help. I think I am going to go for the mid tower found here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It seems like it would have enough room for me to SLI and even add more than 2 drives for added space and data back-up.
Yeah thats a great case, remember to include extra case fans in your order IF you want extra case fans, (although its definetely not needed
)How do you feel about liquid cooling? I never dealt with it before and the idea of having liquid that close to my system bothers me.
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ps3hacker12
August 11, 2013 1:27:01 PM
Hunter Ashpole said:
How do you feel about liquid cooling? I never dealt with it before and the idea of having liquid that close to my system bothers me.Closed loop water cooling systems are awesome IMO and nowadays they don't contain conductive liquids so if they do break they shouldn't cause much problems (my friends build had this, where his PC fell from a shelf about 2 meters up and his PC crashed to a concrete floor, liquid came out but it never affected his system.)
citation needed
but in my experience so far if they are reliable and well known coolers, they are 100% fine.
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Hunter Ashpole
August 15, 2013 5:48:43 PM
I have most of the parts to my system. The only three things I am lacking are the case, the power supply and the OS. For the case I went with this one:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HD3CTI/ref=oh_deta...
Now I think it might be a mistake now that I see how freaking huge these two GTX 770s are.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HD3CTI/ref=oh_deta...
Now I think it might be a mistake now that I see how freaking huge these two GTX 770s are.
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ps3hacker12
August 16, 2013 4:13:22 AM
PSU for SLI 770s:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx750...
Windows 7 64bit:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050
or if you don't mind windows 8:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx750...
Windows 7 64bit:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050
or if you don't mind windows 8:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404
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Hunter Ashpole
August 16, 2013 7:30:51 AM
ps3hacker12 said:
PSU for SLI 770s:http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx750...
Windows 7 64bit:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050
or if you don't mind windows 8:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404
What I meant when I said that is that they are on the way. I just don't know if I can fit both of the cards into that case.
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ps3hacker12
August 16, 2013 11:47:31 AM
Hunter Ashpole
August 16, 2013 11:05:12 PM
ps3hacker12
August 17, 2013 9:11:16 AM
Hunter Ashpole
August 17, 2013 12:36:40 PM
ps3hacker12 said:
Did you put the standoff's in correctly?wow thats annoying that you have to wait for the OS, you could still see if it boots to BIOS, that would be a good sign.
Can't see the BIOS at all. I don't know whats wrong because I followed the guide on this site to a T.
All of the fans cut on and all I get is a black screen unless I connect the HDMI cable to one of the graphics cards, then it tells me to connect a powercable to it.
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ps3hacker12
August 17, 2013 2:32:01 PM
Hunter Ashpole
August 17, 2013 6:48:47 PM
ps3hacker12
August 18, 2013 4:41:29 AM
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Hunter Ashpole
August 18, 2013 10:05:59 AM
ps3hacker12 said:
Ok, thats a good sign, sounds like everything is working except your graphics card, make sure its in properly with the power cable in the graphics card and everything.If not, try removing the graphics card and using integrated graphics see if that works, if not then something else might be wrong.
Okay, I screwed around with it and now I am getting a message that says: Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key."
Pressing a key just repeats the message.
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ps3hacker12
August 18, 2013 10:26:49 AM
Hunter Ashpole
August 18, 2013 10:32:10 AM
ps3hacker12
August 18, 2013 10:36:21 AM
Hunter Ashpole
August 20, 2013 1:50:36 PM
ps3hacker12 said:
In that case, from what testing you can do without the OS disk, your system is working completely fine
The computer is up and running, however it isn't detecting either one of my 770s I have plugged into it. I have tried connecting the monitor through the HDMI port on the top most card, but all I get is a black screen.
Also, my 1TB hard drive isn't showing up at all. It has only appeared once and that was when I was installing windows and choose to use my SSD.
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ps3hacker12
August 20, 2013 2:39:02 PM
Hunter Ashpole
August 20, 2013 3:01:19 PM
ps3hacker12 said:
Is your sata controller set to AHCI in the bios?have you tried with just 1 770?
can you hear the 1TB drive spinning?
Is your SLI bridge installed correctly?
also i reccommend making a new thread about problems, the new thread will get more traffic and therefore more help.
I just tried everything you recommended with no difference. The computer wont boot without both cards plugged it and bridged. The hard drive spins and the setting you mentioned in the BIOS is already set to AHCI.
I already set up a new thread, but no one seems to be on at the moment and I figured I would ask you before moving on since you have been a reliable source of information.
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ps3hacker12
August 20, 2013 3:12:36 PM
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