Will a apu and gpu work?
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Austin Rivera
August 11, 2013 10:26:53 PM
I am making a pc and getting apu (AMD A8-6600K Richland). I am using this motherboard http://amzn.to/18gKQx8 . If i'm going to use the apu, their will be a gpu slot left. Can i use a XFX Radeon HD 7770 and AMD A8-6600K Richland at the same time?
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Austin Rivera
August 11, 2013 10:46:15 PM
radiovan said:
Yes you can.Instead though, I would recommend getting (2) sticks of good quality (at least) 1866 DDR3 RAM, to first take advantage of the onboard/integrated GPU, before spending the money on a dedicated GPU, such as the HD7770.
So you want mean to get 2 gpu??? Cause i really want and apu and gpu and getting 8 gigs of ram.
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Austin Rivera said:
radiovan said:
Yes you can.Instead though, I would recommend getting (2) sticks of good quality (at least) 1866 DDR3 RAM, to first take advantage of the onboard/integrated GPU, before spending the money on a dedicated GPU, such as the HD7770.
So you want mean to get 2 gpu??? Cause i really want and apu and gpu and getting 8 gigs of ram.
No, I do not mean to get 2 GPUs.
Your APU, the A8-6600K, consists of a CPU and iGPU, which is the AMD Radeon HD 8570D. Since the APU does not have onboard/integrated VideoRAM for the integrated GPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D), it uses your system's RAM. So, the better the RAM (the higher the frequency and the lower the latency) it has the better the integrated GPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D) will perform. Your motherboard can only take (2) sticks of RAM, since it has only two DIMM sockets. Hence, I said, get (2) good quality sticks of RAM at a RAM frequency of at least 1866, like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....
Although you can get a separate/dedicated GPU such as the HD 7770, find out how the APU runs without the HD 7770. Otherwise, you defeated the hole point of getting an APU, if you'll instant want to bypass the iGPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D) with a dGPU like the HD7770.
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Austin Rivera
August 11, 2013 11:09:18 PM
radiovan said:
Austin Rivera said:
radiovan said:
Yes you can.Instead though, I would recommend getting (2) sticks of good quality (at least) 1866 DDR3 RAM, to first take advantage of the onboard/integrated GPU, before spending the money on a dedicated GPU, such as the HD7770.
So you want mean to get 2 gpu??? Cause i really want and apu and gpu and getting 8 gigs of ram.
No, I do not mean to get 2 GPUs.
Your APU, the A8-6600K, consists of a CPU and iGPU, which is the AMD Radeon HD 8570D. Since the APU does not have onboard/integrated VideoRAM for the integrated GPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D), it uses your system's RAM. So, the better the RAM (the higher the frequency and the lower the latency) it has the better the integrated GPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D) will perform. Your motherboard can only take (2) sticks of RAM, since it has only two DIMM sockets. Hence, I said, get (2) good quality sticks of RAM at a RAM frequency of at least 1866, like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....
Although you can get a separate/dedicated GPU such as the HD 7770, find out how the APU runs without the HD 7770. Otherwise, you defeated the hole point of getting an APU, if you'll instant want to bypass the iGPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D) with a dGPU like the HD7770.
Here is my build http://amzn.com/w/185V6BBM9KGNB (the amd a10-5800 will get replace to a amd a10-6800k, sorry if you got mistaked by a a8-6600k). So i just want a simple answer, can i use a gpu and apu? And will all this be compatible (sorry, i'm new to building computers)
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Austin Rivera said:
radiovan said:
Austin Rivera said:
radiovan said:
Yes you can.Instead though, I would recommend getting (2) sticks of good quality (at least) 1866 DDR3 RAM, to first take advantage of the onboard/integrated GPU, before spending the money on a dedicated GPU, such as the HD7770.
So you want mean to get 2 gpu??? Cause i really want and apu and gpu and getting 8 gigs of ram.
No, I do not mean to get 2 GPUs.
Your APU, the A8-6600K, consists of a CPU and iGPU, which is the AMD Radeon HD 8570D. Since the APU does not have onboard/integrated VideoRAM for the integrated GPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D), it uses your system's RAM. So, the better the RAM (the higher the frequency and the lower the latency) it has the better the integrated GPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D) will perform. Your motherboard can only take (2) sticks of RAM, since it has only two DIMM sockets. Hence, I said, get (2) good quality sticks of RAM at a RAM frequency of at least 1866, like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....
Although you can get a separate/dedicated GPU such as the HD 7770, find out how the APU runs without the HD 7770. Otherwise, you defeated the hole point of getting an APU, if you'll instant want to bypass the iGPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D) with a dGPU like the HD7770.
Here is my build http://amzn.com/w/185V6BBM9KGNB (the amd a10-5800 will get replace to a amd a10-6800k, sorry if you got mistaked by a a8-6600k). So i just want a simple answer, can i use a gpu and apu? And will all this be compatible (sorry, i'm new to building computers)
No worries, I understand.
To answer your question simply, YES, you can use a GPU and an APU together.
The build list you provided looks good enough, although I would 'suggest' getting this RAM instead: http://www.amazon.com/G-skill-RipjawsX-DDR3-1866-Memory...; it's $30 more but it will help your APU to run faster.
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Austin Rivera
August 12, 2013 12:21:19 AM
radiovan said:
Austin Rivera said:
radiovan said:
Austin Rivera said:
radiovan said:
Yes you can.Instead though, I would recommend getting (2) sticks of good quality (at least) 1866 DDR3 RAM, to first take advantage of the onboard/integrated GPU, before spending the money on a dedicated GPU, such as the HD7770.
So you want mean to get 2 gpu??? Cause i really want and apu and gpu and getting 8 gigs of ram.
No, I do not mean to get 2 GPUs.
Your APU, the A8-6600K, consists of a CPU and iGPU, which is the AMD Radeon HD 8570D. Since the APU does not have onboard/integrated VideoRAM for the integrated GPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D), it uses your system's RAM. So, the better the RAM (the higher the frequency and the lower the latency) it has the better the integrated GPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D) will perform. Your motherboard can only take (2) sticks of RAM, since it has only two DIMM sockets. Hence, I said, get (2) good quality sticks of RAM at a RAM frequency of at least 1866, like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....
Although you can get a separate/dedicated GPU such as the HD 7770, find out how the APU runs without the HD 7770. Otherwise, you defeated the hole point of getting an APU, if you'll instant want to bypass the iGPU (AMD Radeon HD 8570D) with a dGPU like the HD7770.
Here is my build http://amzn.com/w/185V6BBM9KGNB (the amd a10-5800 will get replace to a amd a10-6800k, sorry if you got mistaked by a a8-6600k). So i just want a simple answer, can i use a gpu and apu? And will all this be compatible (sorry, i'm new to building computers)
No worries, I understand.
To answer your question simply, YES, you can use a GPU and an APU together.
The build list you provided looks good enough, although I would 'suggest' getting this RAM instead: http://www.amazon.com/G-skill-RipjawsX-DDR3-1866-Memory...; it's $30 more but it will help your APU to run faster.
Sorry about that, i might stick with my ram because i'm in a $500-550 budget. This is my build http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/185V6BBM9KGN... .
4 Questions
1. Are all these compatible (like will it all fit together)
2. How many fps on Minecraft (Far render distance)
3. How many fps on League Of Legends (High)
4. Will this be able to play Team fortress 2 with no lag on high?
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ktolo
August 12, 2013 12:39:20 AM
You can use them, (i have a A10 6700) but they can't CROSSFIRE or as AMD calls it now Dual Graphics.
The highest suppported card is 6670!
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_a106800k_a1...
But there are also reports of people getting 7750 to work. Also some people saying this isn'T working properly.
The 7770 WON'T work in dual graphics mode.. but will work as a standalone GPU.
i.e. the GPU component of the APU won't be used at all!
In this case, i would reccoment the FM2 Athlon quad core 750k - same processor more or less, no integrated GPU. If you plan to get a 7770 anyway.. then there is n point buying an APU as the GPU part will just be wasted.
If i was you, i'd follow radiovan's advice and see what you think of the system before buying a dGPU.
The highest suppported card is 6670!
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_a106800k_a1...
But there are also reports of people getting 7750 to work. Also some people saying this isn'T working properly.
The 7770 WON'T work in dual graphics mode.. but will work as a standalone GPU.
i.e. the GPU component of the APU won't be used at all!
In this case, i would reccoment the FM2 Athlon quad core 750k - same processor more or less, no integrated GPU. If you plan to get a 7770 anyway.. then there is n point buying an APU as the GPU part will just be wasted.
If i was you, i'd follow radiovan's advice and see what you think of the system before buying a dGPU.
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Austin Rivera
August 12, 2013 12:53:07 AM
ktolo said:
You can use them, (i have a A10 6700) but they can't CROSSFIRE or as AMD calls it now Dual Graphics. The highest suppported card is 6670!
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_a106800k_a1...
But there are also reports of people getting 7750 to work. Also some people saying this isn'T working properly.
The 7770 WON'T work in dual graphics mode.. but will work as a standalone GPU.
i.e. the GPU component of the APU won't be used at all!
In this case, i would reccoment the FM2 Athlon quad core 750k - same processor more or less, no integrated GPU. If you plan to get a 7770 anyway.. then there is n point buying an APU as the GPU part will just be wasted.
If i was you, i'd follow radiovan's advice and see what you think of the system before buying a dGPU.
Read carefully, http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/185V6BBM9KGN... , so i shouldn't get an apu???
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I thought you would have an A10-6800K instead of the A10-5800K?
1. Please take out the eVGA GT 610, that GPU is actually a lot worse in performance than what the APU has onboard, and spend that money on the A10-6800K and/or higher clocked RAM - 1866 or 2133. You can always upgrade to a dedicated GPU like an HD 7770, later.
2. I don't know.
3. Guessing around 60, if you get A10-6800K - http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.p...
4. I would say yes, check out this vid - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWnvtCLDZVI plus in the comments below the video the uploader mentions LoL frame rates as well.
Hope this helps.
1. Please take out the eVGA GT 610, that GPU is actually a lot worse in performance than what the APU has onboard, and spend that money on the A10-6800K and/or higher clocked RAM - 1866 or 2133. You can always upgrade to a dedicated GPU like an HD 7770, later.
2. I don't know.
3. Guessing around 60, if you get A10-6800K - http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.p...
4. I would say yes, check out this vid - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWnvtCLDZVI plus in the comments below the video the uploader mentions LoL frame rates as well.
Hope this helps.
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Austin Rivera
August 12, 2013 12:58:07 AM
radiovan said:
I thought you would have an A10-6800K instead of the A10-5800K?1. Please take out the eVGA GT 610, that GPU is actually a lot worse in performance than what the APU has onboard, and spend that money on the A10-6800K and/or higher clocked RAM - 1866 or 2133. You can always upgrade to a dedicated GPU like an HD 7770, later.
2. I don't know.
3. Guessing around 60, if you get A10-6800K - http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.p...
4. I would say yes, check out this vid - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWnvtCLDZVI plus in the comments below the video the uploader mentions LoL frame rates as well.
Hope this helps.
What about getting the A10-6800K And eVAG GT 610? Will that be better?
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ktolo
August 12, 2013 12:59:48 AM
Ok, sorry, didn't look at the list, somebody was mentioning a 7770!
2 things.
A) that is GPU is entry level and too weak, the APU would be better than that anyway. So it's a wast of money to buy both in this case.
B) they are 2 different manufacturers.. AMD and Nvidia.. the only way to crossfire them is using a 3rd part program (sorry i forget the name right now)
but there'd be no point. If that's the GPU you have your eye on, don't buy it. Just get the APU on it's own, as it's already better than the GPU.
2 things.
A) that is GPU is entry level and too weak, the APU would be better than that anyway. So it's a wast of money to buy both in this case.
B) they are 2 different manufacturers.. AMD and Nvidia.. the only way to crossfire them is using a 3rd part program (sorry i forget the name right now)
but there'd be no point. If that's the GPU you have your eye on, don't buy it. Just get the APU on it's own, as it's already better than the GPU.
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Austin Rivera
August 12, 2013 1:03:48 AM
ktolo said:
Ok, sorry, didn't look at the list, somebody was mentioning a 7770!2 things.
A) that is GPU is entry level and too weak, the APU would be better than that anyway. So it's a wast of money to buy both in this case.
B) they are 2 different manufacturers.. AMD and Nvidia.. the only way to crossfire them is using a 3rd part program (sorry i forget the name right now)
but there'd be no point. If that's the GPU you have your eye on, don't buy it. Just get the APU on it's own, as it's already better than the GPU.
But i want a bit more performance, can't i just get a $20-40 gpu for a bit more performance for games? If no don't worry about it
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ktolo
August 12, 2013 1:11:16 AM
But it won't give you more performance, that's what I'm trying to say.
With that processor, from all the reviews i've read (and i read a lot, as i eventually bought the 6700) even a 6650 doesn't make so much difference gaing.
So I really cannot see how a GT610 would add anything at all. It would just be a waste of money in my opinion.
The bst way to get extra juice out of that setup is to get RAM that goes to 2400.. and run this alopng with the A10.
the APU's just LOVE fast RAM.. a10 6800 + RAM @ 2400 = performance of a 7750 (more or less)
But they can't crossfire or dual graphics with anything higher than 6670 (officially) and from what i've seen the 7750 (unnoffically) but you'd have that level of performance anyway..
With that processor, from all the reviews i've read (and i read a lot, as i eventually bought the 6700) even a 6650 doesn't make so much difference gaing.
So I really cannot see how a GT610 would add anything at all. It would just be a waste of money in my opinion.
The bst way to get extra juice out of that setup is to get RAM that goes to 2400.. and run this alopng with the A10.
the APU's just LOVE fast RAM.. a10 6800 + RAM @ 2400 = performance of a 7750 (more or less)
But they can't crossfire or dual graphics with anything higher than 6670 (officially) and from what i've seen the 7750 (unnoffically) but you'd have that level of performance anyway..
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ktolo
August 12, 2013 1:16:40 AM
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ktolo
August 12, 2013 1:17:14 AM
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Personally, I would not concern myself with the "dual" or hybrid Crossfire too much. It is a marketing gimmick. Once you have the cash, and feel that you really need the extra graphical boost then get a new Radeon. In the mean time spend the money on better RAM and/or higher end APU.
AMD will be coming out with a new line of GPU in the fall of this year. So by then you'll see how your APU peforms and then you can spend your cash on either an "older" HD7000 series GPU or the new "Volcanic Islands" GPU.
AMD will be coming out with a new line of GPU in the fall of this year. So by then you'll see how your APU peforms and then you can spend your cash on either an "older" HD7000 series GPU or the new "Volcanic Islands" GPU.
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Austin Rivera
August 12, 2013 1:37:16 AM
radiovan said:
Personally, I would not concern myself with the "dual" or hybrid Crossfire too much. It is a marketing gimmick. Once you have the cash, and feel that you really need the extra graphical boost then get a new Radeon. In the mean time spend the money on better RAM and/or higher end APU.AMD will be coming out with a new line of GPU in the fall of this year. So by then you'll see how your APU peforms and then you can spend your cash on either an "older" HD7000 series GPU or the new "Volcanic Islands" GPU.
Thank you, one question (sorry i'm new to building pc) is their a good motherboard that has 2 gpu slot, 4 ram slot (maximum 64gb ram), vga and hdmi slot for $56 or less? Thank you
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Austin Rivera said:
radiovan said:
Personally, I would not concern myself with the "dual" or hybrid Crossfire too much. It is a marketing gimmick. Once you have the cash, and feel that you really need the extra graphical boost then get a new Radeon. In the mean time spend the money on better RAM and/or higher end APU.AMD will be coming out with a new line of GPU in the fall of this year. So by then you'll see how your APU peforms and then you can spend your cash on either an "older" HD7000 series GPU or the new "Volcanic Islands" GPU.
Thank you, one question (sorry i'm new to building pc) is their a good motherboard that has 2 gpu slot, 4 ram slot (maximum 64gb ram), vga and hdmi slot for $56 or less? Thank you
No problem. Well, unfortunately not at that price point. To meet all those spec's you listed, you will have to pay about $75 for something like an ASUS F2A55-M/CSM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...), and it just goes up from there.
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Austin Rivera
August 12, 2013 2:14:00 AM
radiovan said:
Austin Rivera said:
radiovan said:
Personally, I would not concern myself with the "dual" or hybrid Crossfire too much. It is a marketing gimmick. Once you have the cash, and feel that you really need the extra graphical boost then get a new Radeon. In the mean time spend the money on better RAM and/or higher end APU.AMD will be coming out with a new line of GPU in the fall of this year. So by then you'll see how your APU peforms and then you can spend your cash on either an "older" HD7000 series GPU or the new "Volcanic Islands" GPU.
Thank you, one question (sorry i'm new to building pc) is their a good motherboard that has 2 gpu slot, 4 ram slot (maximum 64gb ram), vga and hdmi slot for $56 or less? Thank you
No problem. Well, unfortunately not at that price point. To meet all those spec's you listed, you will have to pay about $75 for something like an ASUS F2A55-M/CSM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...), and it just goes up from there.
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Austin Rivera
August 12, 2013 3:31:55 AM
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