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Is the given desktop spec suitable for gaming?:-

PROCESSOR i7-3770
RAM kingstone 4gb x 2 1600 mhz
MOBO asus p8z77-m
VGA sapphire hd 7850 2gb no OC
MONITOR samsung syncmaster 22inch

im very newbie in computer gaming and needs help...i will appreciate your comments...
 
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1. i7 3770 is an overkill for a pure gaming rig
2. Z77 is a mobo for OC, it is better to get a processor with "K" e.g. i7 3770k or i5 3570k. If you do not want to OC, get H77.
3. IvyBridge is not up2date anymore, if you want to build a new rig, I would suggest to go with Haswell i7 4770k or i5 4670k. For pure gaming, i5 4670k is more suitable. (the compatible mobo chipset for OC Z87 and without OC H87)

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If you need i7 strength, not planning to OC and not planing to use the iGPU, take a look at E3-1230V2 (Ivy) or E3-1230V3 (Haswell).
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Of course, it is.But the processor is overkill.For just gaming, an i5 would do the job, save that money and invest in good power supply (seasonic, corsair etc).

Also, more details in your question might help, so plz be descriptive in future with your questions. :)
 
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1. i7 3770 is an overkill for a pure gaming rig
2. Z77 is a mobo for OC, it is better to get a processor with "K" e.g. i7 3770k or i5 3570k. If you do not want to OC, get H77.
3. IvyBridge is not up2date anymore, if you want to build a new rig, I would suggest to go with Haswell i7 4770k or i5 4670k. For pure gaming, i5 4670k is more suitable. (the compatible mobo chipset for OC Z87 and without OC H87)

Tips:
If you need i7 strength, not planning to OC and not planing to use the iGPU, take a look at E3-1230V2 (Ivy) or E3-1230V3 (Haswell).
 
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thanks :) , but the 'overkill' is bad or good? and im going to choose coolermaster gx 650 watt, is it a good product?
 
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Actually im using the computer also for autocad,inventor and other engineering applications. So, i7 have better clockspeed and other features that makes it handling better in gaming than i5 right?
 
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i7 and i5 has almost no difference if we look at the frequency. Several hundreds MHz is not really feel-able.
What makes i7 different compared to i5 is the hyperthreading.
For rendering, etc. which need more cores or stronger processor, i7 is more suitable.
For Autocad, etc. it depends on how big your models are. You can use also i5 if you have only small models up to i7 3930k (my recommendation stops until here, there are more stronger ones but the price is no longer making real sense) if they are gigantic.
For Autocad, etc. GPU also play a role, do not forget it.
 
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very slight difference. To tell the truth, it's only worth it if you are most-always needing those other applications. If we are talking about more gaming focus, I would rather you put the money into an i5 & better graphics card.

Right now you are picking the best processor possible but only a fairly mediocre mid-high end graphics card.. current build is definitely leaning towards office/productivity focus.. except you actually don't have enough ram to really call it a workstation. It's all kinds of weird. are you sure you aren't just making excuses for an over priced processor? :d

edit:: over priced isn't the right term. I mean to say that it's too expensive for the budget I.E. money that would go to a better GPU.. assuming the pc is indeed a gaming desktop.
 
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thanks, but what is the maximum freq. i5 can achieve from its overclocking? If i would like to choose i5, do i need to change the asus p8z77-m to other motherboard?
 
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The older the i5, the better the OC. i5-2500 is the best, the i5-3xxxx are good but the new i5-4xxx have bad thermal problems. This is for both the i5 and i7.

on an i5-2500k you can at least hit 4.5, probably closer to 4.7 or 5.0 if you are lucky. The i5-3xxxk is about 4.7 if you are lucky, and the newer 4xxxk are closer to 4.5 if you are lucky. Still, despite slower clock, the newer ones may be marginally faster due to other changes. But as far as overclock goes that's about how it stacks up right now.

In reality, you can't really go all that bad with any of them. Even a none-k i5 chip is in the 1st tier for gaming (i.e. i5 3570), but most gamers simply prefer to headroom & are comforted by bigger numbers.

If I were you I would take the i5 & use the ~$100 savings to buy a GTX 760 for gaming. That would be about a 50-80% more powerful (fps wise) gaming build than an i7/7850. That's a lot more than the meager fps increase (or decrease in some games) you would see with an i7, which on average performs just + or - a few points from an i5

quick gpu comparison:
http://anandtech.com/bench/product/854?vs=778
 
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you may use the same motherboard, as long as it's the same generation chip, both chips use the 1150 slot.

If you pick an older ivy bridge chip for the higher OC potential, they use the 1155 slot BUT the motherboard also has to be updated from SB (also 1155). An older board manufactured before SB may not be IB ready out-of-the-box.
 
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