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August 12, 2013 5:48:31 AM

Hi all, I recently got some amazing advice from this community that resulted in my lovely new Eizo IPS monitor, and was hoping I might presume to ask for some more about building a new PC.

My current machine was top-end in its day (GTX285 era) and I'm long overdue for a new gaming PC. I always bought factory-overclocked GTXxx5 BFG cards before, but it seems the x85 cards and BFG both no longer exist. I think for my card I'll get the eVGA Classified GTX780, which seems to be the best factory-overclocked 780 GPU out there (unless there's another?) and I'm going to get the best Haswell CPU (3770K?). Apart from those two, I could use advice on the rest.

My specific requirements. I want a discrete sound card which supports EAX. I have the Auzentech Prelude already, but it's PCI, not PCIe and I can't find a mobo now with PCI ports. So any tips on top end components for the following:

Motherboard (with PCI, or if not...). Gigabit LAN (dual if poss), USB3 and SATA3.
Discrete PCIe Sound Card with EAX support and DDL.
DDR3 RAM (All the different speeds are baffling, which do I need?). I'm thinking 16GB as 4x 4GB sticks?
PSU (Needs to power a GTX780 and approx. 2 SSDs, 1 HDD, 2 Optical drives).
Optionally, any awesome cases (though I realise these are subjective).

I already have storage, ODDs, KB, speakers, mouse and monitor and money is not an issue. I want to build the best PC possible around the GFX card above, which I hope will enable me to max out all games with DX11 goodies. Many thanks in advance for any help.

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August 12, 2013 6:31:36 AM

you didnt list a budget...resolution, hertz, oc, where to buy from, location
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August 12, 2013 6:51:55 AM

Hey there,

I did exactly the same as you in February :)  although your GPU is better than mine.

With regards to the soundcard, errr... a motherboard is a very important component to any computer (almost the most important) that is always overlooked because everyone just spends money on GPU, VGA. however without a decent Motherboard your components on your next upgrade might not be compatible... which is not really what you want.

My suggestion take the PCI-e slots card lets say something did happen to your sound card then your replacement would be incompatible. Use your current PC for music, movies if you really need the extra sound quality, but onboard sound on these new cards aren't half bad. (My Asus Xonar Essence STX has not been working the whole year since I upgraded) and I can honestly say with good enough headphones the difference is minor at best.

Some suggestions:

Mobo:
Asus P77Z Pro/Deluxe
MSI Z87-G43

8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM (any will do, Corsair Vengence, Dominator, This is up to you really) Take the 16GB RAM only if you are going to be using allot of internet tabs at once or run many programs simultaneously.

Storage:

Seems you got that covered, run the 2 SSD's in RAID 0 and boot off that, it will make your system super fast :) .

OCZ Vertex 4, Corsair Force & Samsung are good compared to the price. However SSD's depend on the purpose of course (if you ever want more)

PSU:
If your current PSU is 600Watts and you are not going to use it for music as I suggested use that PSU, if you are going to use it for just music pop in a cheap 350W PSU into the old PC.
if you want a brand new one I suggest going with Corsair try 1 of these 2:
Corsair GS600 or GS800 both are outstanding.

CPU:
You already decided on the i7 3770k (I decided on it too, the difference between price and performance between it and the 4770 isn't that much) ALTHOUGH if your budget allows it go for the 4770k

CPU cooler can be anything from a Coolermaster, Zalman to a Corsair Hydro

Do you already have a case in mind, do you care about a case? Look at Thermaltake, Coolermaster for references they have some decent cases/chassis. The NZXT Phantom series also looks pretty decent, Corsair also make nice cases unfortunately I can only reference the brands as it's up to your own taste to determine which model you like. Full tower or Mid tower is also up to you

Also remember to get a good anti virus for the new rig so that it is protected and the speed lasts. There is nothing like getting a new machine that should be fast only to be held back by malicious software.

After reading your post completely I decided to edit mine and I am not sure if I removed all the gaps so here is the summary:

Motherboard: Asus P77Z Deluxe (money is not an option)
CPU: Intel Core i7 4770k
PSU: Corsair CS800
CPU cooler: Corsair Hydro H80 or H100i
RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 8Gb 1600Mhz or 16GB up to you
GPU: you listed your favourate :) 
Chassis: Corsair Obsidian, NZXT Phantom 820 black, Thermaltake Chaser MK1, Coolermaster CM Storm, Silverstone Temjin TJ01, Silverstone Raven.
OS: Windows 7 Pro/ whatever you have I use 8 because it is slightly faster at boot
Anti Virus: up to you I like Bit defender
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August 12, 2013 7:50:29 AM

Consider a 850/900 W PSU if you plan to SLI later on with another 780 (with a mobo SLI capable ofc).
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August 12, 2013 11:23:14 PM

If you really want a future proof PSU get the Corsair AX1200, I have it it's great. It's also much more quiet than a 600W surprisingly...
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August 13, 2013 6:39:36 AM

Thank you for the above tips, Christiaan especially for the great recommendations. So Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600MHz is a good, high performance memory then? Any tips on a good EAX sound card that's PCIe? I want it for older games that use/used it.
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August 13, 2013 6:42:13 AM

KingsGambit said:
Thank you for the above tips, Christiaan especially for the great recommendations. So Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600MHz is a good, high performance memory then? Any tips on a good EAX sound card that's PCIe? I want it for older games that use/used it.


can you please list a budget..
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August 13, 2013 7:01:13 AM

KingsGambit said:
Thank you for the above tips, Christiaan especially for the great recommendations. So Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600MHz is a good, high performance memory then? Any tips on a good EAX sound card that's PCIe? I want it for older games that use/used it.


I have 32GB of Dominator Platinum (I like overkill) and in my honest opinion it is the Ferrari of RAM.

Sound Cards, well you have a few choices:
You really want EAX 5.0 cards for best performance

Auzentech X-Fi Prelude
ASUS Xonar Essence ST
" except STX not ST
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
" Titanium HD (just because it looks sexy :p )
I have the essence STX, I would recommend any of those really they are all really good quality.
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August 14, 2013 11:58:18 AM

RaisingTheBarHD said:
KingsGambit said:
Thank you for the above tips, Christiaan especially for the great recommendations. So Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600MHz is a good, high performance memory then? Any tips on a good EAX sound card that's PCIe? I want it for older games that use/used it.


can you please list a budget..
Apologies, I thought I had mentioned but money is not an object. I will gladly spend whatever the best components cost.

As I mentioned, unless there's a GTX 780 faster than the evga Classified one that'll be the GPU. CPU will be whatever is the best haswell i7. But RAM, motherboard, PSU and PCIe soundcard (w/ EAX and DDL) are where I'm having trouble.
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August 14, 2013 12:00:10 PM

Christiaan Lourens said:
KingsGambit said:
Thank you for the above tips, Christiaan especially for the great recommendations. So Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600MHz is a good, high performance memory then? Any tips on a good EAX sound card that's PCIe? I want it for older games that use/used it.


I have 32GB of Dominator Platinum (I like overkill) and in my honest opinion it is the Ferrari of RAM.

Sound Cards, well you have a few choices:
You really want EAX 5.0 cards for best performance

Auzentech X-Fi Prelude
ASUS Xonar Essence ST
" except STX not ST
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
" Titanium HD (just because it looks sexy :p )
I have the essence STX, I would recommend any of those really they are all really good quality.

I have the Prelude now. Love it, but it's PCI and that's part of the trouble. I'd gladly keep it if there's a top-end mobo with USB & SATA3, for haswell cpus, that has a PCI slot. Would 800W PSU be enough for this spec?
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August 14, 2013 11:41:01 PM

KingsGambit said:
Hi all, I recently got some amazing advice from this community that resulted in my lovely new Eizo IPS monitor, and was hoping I might presume to ask for some more about building a new PC.

My current machine was top-end in its day (GTX285 era) and I'm long overdue for a new gaming PC. I always bought factory-overclocked GTXxx5 BFG cards before, but it seems the x85 cards and BFG both no longer exist. I think for my card I'll get the eVGA Classified GTX780, which seems to be the best factory-overclocked 780 GPU out there (unless there's another?) and I'm going to get the best Haswell CPU (3770K?). Apart from those two, I could use advice on the rest.

My specific requirements. I want a discrete sound card which supports EAX. I have the Auzentech Prelude already, but it's PCI, not PCIe and I can't find a mobo now with PCI ports. So any tips on top end components for the following:

Motherboard (with PCI, or if not...). Gigabit LAN (dual if poss), USB3 and SATA3.
Discrete PCIe Sound Card with EAX support and DDL.
DDR3 RAM (All the different speeds are baffling, which do I need?). I'm thinking 16GB as 4x 4GB sticks?
PSU (Needs to power a GTX780 and approx. 2 SSDs, 1 HDD, 2 Optical drives).
Optionally, any awesome cases (though I realise these are subjective).

I already have storage, ODDs, KB, speakers, mouse and monitor and money is not an issue. I want to build the best PC possible around the GFX card above, which I hope will enable me to max out all games with DX11 goodies. Many thanks in advance for any help.


KingsGambit said:
RaisingTheBarHD said:
KingsGambit said:
Thank you for the above tips, Christiaan especially for the great recommendations. So Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600MHz is a good, high performance memory then? Any tips on a good EAX sound card that's PCIe? I want it for older games that use/used it.


can you please list a budget..
Apologies, I thought I had mentioned but money is not an object. I will gladly spend whatever the best components cost.

As I mentioned, unless there's a GTX 780 faster than the evga Classified one that'll be the GPU. CPU will be whatever is the best haswell i7. But RAM, motherboard, PSU and PCIe soundcard (w/ EAX and DDL) are where I'm having trouble.


You did :p 

KingsGambit said:
I already have storage, ODDs, KB, speakers, mouse and monitor and money is not an issue. I want to build the best PC possible around the GFX card above, which I hope will enable me to max out all games with DX11 goodies. Many thanks in advance for any help.


If you want any additional information or assistance let me know, that includes if you would rather want a ATI AMD build, but I would highly recommend sticking to the specs I mentioned with only a slight modification here and there depending on either budget or personal preference.
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August 23, 2013 5:41:41 PM

Thanks for the advice again. The suggestion about the liquid cooler caused me to spend literally hours researching them as I'd never seen these all-in-one liquid coolers before. I've looked into motherboards and soundcards further too, and concluded that the high-end Asus boards have features I don't need (BT, WiFi, NFC, etc) while the mid-range Z87-Plus offers just as good gaming performance, but also has an older PCI slot. This means I can keep my beloved Auzentech Prelude which suits me fine.

The alternatives were the Asus Xonar Phoebus, Creative XFi Titanium HD and Auzentech Hometheatre HD. All were PCIe, about £150 and not quite right. Though the cost doesn't bother me, the fact is I can get the same performance from the Z87-Plus as with the Z87-Deluxe, as far as I can tell, for about £50 less and save £150 by not buying a new soundcard. I keep EAX support and DDL as I hoped for. My final spec then:

Case: Corsair Obsidian 650D (OCUK sell a noise-dampened one)
PSU: BeQuiet Dark Power Pro 850W (Platinum certified and apparently whisper quiet up to approx. 75% load)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-Plus
CPU: Intel Core i7 4770K Haswell 3.5GHz
RAM: 4x 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHZ (7-8-8-24 timings were the lowest I found)
GPU: eVGA GTX780 Classified
Soundcard: Auzentech XFi Prelude (EAX and DDL)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60 (after much research, most reviews concluded that the X60 performs better while silent than most others at full pelt!)
Storage: 80GB SSD Boot/Progs, 500GB SSD Games, 600GB Velociraptor Storage

Now I just have to wait for the parts and build it. I'm also sorely tempted to try and cludge my current Windows 7 install into the new machine to save reinstalling. Can't wait; DX11 goodness is almost here and I'm waiting on playing Splinter Cell: Blacklist and Saints Row 4 until then and with luck, the above should be much quieter than my current PC too.
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August 24, 2013 3:41:56 AM

Sounds great, glad I could assist :) 
It's always nice to take some recommendations into consideration, but still put in your own flavour like you did.
Good luck with the gaming :bounce: 
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