Mid rang or high end?

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Epitaph95

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I'm looking to build a PC but wondering if I should pick up a high end CPU like the fx 8350 or i5 3570k and and low end GPU like an Asus gtx 650 ti OR go with a mid CPU like an fx 6100 with a gtx 660?
I'm asking for future spending and such.
 
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Guggi's build is nice, except for the cheap MSI motherboard, which appears on this spreadsheet: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AgN1D79Joo7tdE9xMUFlMEVWeFhuckJEVF9aMmtpUFE&gid=0 (along with other cheap MSI motherboards) as having weak VRMs. You will want to overclock an AMD processor, if only using the motherboard's quick and dirty (and safe) automatic settings. For that, you'll want VRMs up to the task; and you'll want a cooler. Swap out that motherboard for an Asus, add the Xigmatek Gaia, then you're good to go.
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if you want to play NOW, its better to get the midrange cpu and the better gpu
but dont get the fx6100, its old bulldozer architecture, get the fx6300 its just a few bucks more.
if you really want to go for the high end cpu now and upgrade your videocard later, go for an i5, it will serve your (gaming) needs better, but in the lower price range amd has the better price/performance ratio
 
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Total budget? Remember not to skimp on the PSU. High wattage is not important, but high quality is. A 380W Antec Earthwatts can run any graphics card needing only a single PCIe power cable; a "600W" Diablotek would probably choke, smoke, and croak on a HD7850.
A GTX650Ti Boost Edition or HD7850 should be able to play any game at 1920x1080 on "good" settings. Pair it with an i3-3220 or FX-4300 for a decent budget gamer. The latter will likely need to be overclocked. I use and recommend the Xigmatek Gaia over the inferior but more commonly mentioned Hyper212 EVO:

http://www.techreaction.net/2011/07/07/review-xigmatek-gaia-sd1283/7/
http://www.techreaction.net/2011/11/27/review-cooler-master-hyper-212-plus/4/

Unlike the Hyper212 EVO (ignore the URL; it IS the EVO they tested), the Gaia never throttled, although it wasn't always the coolest depending on the fan used. Both got awards, but if you factor in the price, the Gaia wins hands down.
 
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I would use a much better gaming computer with high-end components and a mid-range graphics, why? Because, you can upgrade later and it won't bottleneck your next high-end graphics card. But if you can't upgrade later and it's hard for you to earn money, then go for a faster graphics card with mid-range components, but DON'T SKIMP OUT YOUR POWER SUPPLY, it's the most important part of your components! If your power supply fails, it can burn your motherboard and other components. I once skimped out a power supply and it burned everything on my motherboard.
 
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So at the moment I'm looking at an FX 6300, Asus 650 ti 1gb, Asus m5a97 2.0, corsair 600watt psu.
My budget is about 700 euro give or take, my current build costs 681 euro
I was just wondering whats better future price wise, whether to stick with that or upgrade the CPU or GPU
I'll be using it mostly for gaming and sound editing.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (€102.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€70.17 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: GeIL EVO Leggara Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€49.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€55.69 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card (€188.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Cooler Master Force 500 ATX Mid Tower Case (€39.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (€54.90 @ Caseking)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer (€15.70 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (€87.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €665.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-13 22:27 CEST+0200)
 
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Guggi's build is nice, except for the cheap MSI motherboard, which appears on this spreadsheet: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AgN1D79Joo7tdE9xMUFlMEVWeFhuckJEVF9aMmtpUFE&gid=0 (along with other cheap MSI motherboards) as having weak VRMs. You will want to overclock an AMD processor, if only using the motherboard's quick and dirty (and safe) automatic settings. For that, you'll want VRMs up to the task; and you'll want a cooler. Swap out that motherboard for an Asus, add the Xigmatek Gaia, then you're good to go.
 
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I was wondering how much better (if they are) ASUS mobos are software wise?
PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/1rBaS
Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/1rBaS/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/1rBaS/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (€102.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling ACFZ13 36.4 CFM CPU Cooler (€24.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€77.04 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€33.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€55.69 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card (€125.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (€19.75 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (€87.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €528.02
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-08-13 22:57 CEST+0200)
As well as a 600watt corsair PSU and Sharkoon Vaya value case
 
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thanks for that spreadsheet!
 
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