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August 13, 2013 8:47:05 PM

Hey guys!

I am building a new gaming PC, and I was wondering which GPU you think I should get,

Either NVidia or AMD, I will spend whatever amount of money, I just want the best one, I had my eye on the AMD Radeon™ HD 7990,, and the PNY GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card, which should I get?

P.S. I messed up on the name of the AMD card, it is now fixed, also my user name doesn't mean I am a Troll, I used to play a ton of Minecraft and our old server was named TrollCraft, so when I made any user name it was TrollCraftTales, I am not a troll, just an uninformed noob that messed up on the numbers of a GPU...

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August 13, 2013 8:53:14 PM

Well those 2 cards are WORLDS apart in performance.
Get the best card if you have so much money. A GTX780 is a really great option.
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August 13, 2013 8:54:09 PM

Comparing a 7730 to a 780 is like comparing a Lamborgini(gtx 780 in this case) to a geo metro. The GTX 780 is the 2nd fastest single GPU card you can buy, its big brother the GTX Titan is the first. The 7730 is a low end(entry level) card and IMHO not suitable for gaming.
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August 13, 2013 8:54:19 PM

You had your eye on the 7730 and the 780?

One costs less than $100 and the other costs more than $650. They're absolutely NOTHING close to each other.

What resolution are you going to be gaming at, and what budget roughly would you like?
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August 13, 2013 8:54:42 PM

...never mind. I just saw your username. Good job, you got three of us! :p 
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August 13, 2013 8:55:57 PM

I really need to start looking harder at user names.
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August 13, 2013 8:56:45 PM

DarkSable said:
...never mind. I just saw your username. Good job, you got three of us! :p 


Hahaha well spotted. I miss the days when we could still view all previous post from one user just by looking at his/her profile...
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August 13, 2013 8:57:52 PM

Novuake said:
Well those 2 cards are WORLDS apart in performance.
Get the best card if you have so much money. A GTX780 is a really great option.


Ok thanks.

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August 13, 2013 8:58:45 PM

Novuake said:
Hahaha well spotted. I miss the days when we could still view all previous post from one user just by looking at his/her profile...


Ohh, tell me about it. That was useful for so many things...
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August 13, 2013 8:59:09 PM

Novuake said:
DarkSable said:
...never mind. I just saw your username. Good job, you got three of us! :p 


Hahaha well spotted. I miss the days when we could still view all previous post from one user just by looking at his/her profile...


Me too, that was a rather handy feature.
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August 13, 2013 8:59:37 PM

LOL the user in uninformed even so a 7730 will play lite games at low setting if on amd side of this a 7990 which is like what guys? 1000 bucks for a radeon .. if money isn't a problem on the radeon side and on the other side I think you guys have got that covered good job!
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August 13, 2013 8:59:47 PM

DarkSable said:

Ohh, tell me about it. That was useful for so many things...


Wonder why its been removed...
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August 13, 2013 9:07:39 PM

DarkSable said:
...never mind. I just saw your username. Good job, you got three of us! :p 


Actually my user name is one had I for a while, I am not a troll, I messed up on the AMD name, I just changed it...
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August 13, 2013 9:09:25 PM

johnnyb105 said:
LOL the user in uninformed even so a 7730 will play lite games at low setting if on amd side of this a 7990 which is like what guys? 1000 bucks for a radeon .. if money isn't a problem on the radeon side and on the other side I think you guys have got that covered good job!



I messed up on the name of the AMD, I meant the AMD Radeon™ HD 7990,
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August 13, 2013 9:12:16 PM

bignastyid said:
Comparing a 7730 to a 780 is like comparing a Lamborgini(gtx 780 in this case) to a geo metro. The GTX 780 is the 2nd fastest single GPU card you can buy, its big brother the GTX Titan is the first. The 7730 is a low end(entry level) card and IMHO not suitable for gaming.


Sorry I messed up the numbers..

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August 13, 2013 9:14:15 PM

johnnyb105 said:
LOL the user in uninformed even so a 7730 will play lite games at low setting if on amd side of this a 7990 which is like what guys? 1000 bucks for a radeon .. if money isn't a problem on the radeon side and on the other side I think you guys have got that covered good job!


Thank you for being so nice.. -_-, I messed up the numbers on the GPU, I was looking at a bunch of GPUs and the 7730 was right below the 7990, I copied the wrong one, sorry...
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August 13, 2013 9:16:25 PM

Novuake said:
DarkSable said:
...never mind. I just saw your username. Good job, you got three of us! :p 


Hahaha well spotted. I miss the days when we could still view all previous post from one user just by looking at his/her profile...


I am not a troll, I promise, if you want to look at my other posts they are called "Gaming Monitor Help!"
"PSU Help for Monster Rig!" and "Thoughts on my PC build", I just messed up the numbers sorry...
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August 13, 2013 9:17:01 PM

bignastyid said:
I really need to start looking harder at user names.


I am not a troll, that is just my name, look at the article now to see why...

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August 13, 2013 9:18:09 PM

Novuake said:
Well those 2 cards are WORLDS apart in performance.
Get the best card if you have so much money. A GTX780 is a really great option.


sorry I messed up on the numbers, I meant the 7990...

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August 13, 2013 9:38:27 PM

No problem, good thing you explained it. Wel the HD7990 is about 20% faster than the GTX780, however its a dual GPU card, meaning it has 2 x HD7970s on ONE card.
This sort of card uses a LOT more power and also has some other issues related to it, such as microstuttering.

IF you are planning to get a decent 850W+ power supply and a chassis with VERY good cooling, the HD7990 would be my choice. Especially now that the HD7990 only costs like 700$.

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August 13, 2013 9:40:20 PM

johnnyb105 said:
LOL the user in uninformed even so a 7730 will play lite games at low setting if on amd side of this a 7990 which is like what guys? 1000 bucks for a radeon .. if money isn't a problem on the radeon side and on the other side I think you guys have got that covered good job!


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 13, 2013 10:49:47 PM

Ahh, I apologize then. (See, this is why being able to look at your profile and see your other posts would be so useful!)


The 7990 is NOT worth the trouble of its power draw, heat produced, microstuttering (The 13.8 drivers help, but don't fix, the problem.), driver support, and probable coil whine, in my opinion.

That being said, what monitor are you gaming on? If it's anything even up to a 1080p, 60Hz screen, you'd just be wasting money - a 770 would do you just FINE. No point in spending more money than you have to when you gain no benefit from it.
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August 14, 2013 10:18:43 AM

Novuake said:
No problem, good thing you explained it. Wel the HD7990 is about 20% faster than the GTX780, however its a dual GPU card, meaning it has 2 x HD7970s on ONE card.
This sort of card uses a LOT more power and also has some other issues related to it, such as microstuttering.

IF you are planning to get a decent 850W+ power supply and a chassis with VERY good cooling, the HD7990 would be my choice. Especially now that the HD7990 only costs like 700$.



Ok thank you...

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August 14, 2013 10:20:29 AM

DarkSable said:
Ahh, I apologize then. (See, this is why being able to look at your profile and see your other posts would be so useful!)


The 7990 is NOT worth the trouble of its power draw, heat produced, microstuttering (The 13.8 drivers help, but don't fix, the problem.), driver support, and probable coil whine, in my opinion.

That being said, what monitor are you gaming on? If it's anything even up to a 1080p, 60Hz screen, you'd just be wasting money - a 770 would do you just FINE. No point in spending more money than you have to when you gain no benefit from it.


I am not sure exactly what monitor I will be buying, I was looking at the Viewsonic VX2450WM-LED 24-Inch (23.6-Inch Vis) Widescreen LED Monitor with Full HD 1080p and Speakers, but I haven't made a decision yet...
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August 14, 2013 11:07:35 AM

All you need to do is listen to the video on this page with a recording of the coil whine coming from the 7990. You will understand just one of the many reasons the 7990 was discontinued only two months after it was released. But then maybe you like "parasitic noises" coming from your video card.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7990-revi...

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"Since the fans start off quietly and only become audible toward the end of our video, we want to concentrate on the parasitic noise that dominates throughout the recording.... the high-pitched whine is noticeable enough to illicit raised eyebrows from observers correctly ascertaining that a graphics card shouldn’t be making those noises."

And then as always be sure to check out individual reviews of your favorite games.


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_TF_Gamin...
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August 14, 2013 11:22:52 AM

TrollCraftTales said:
I am not sure exactly what monitor I will be buying, I was looking at the Viewsonic VX2450WM-LED 24-Inch (23.6-Inch Vis) Widescreen LED Monitor with Full HD 1080p and Speakers, but I haven't made a decision yet...


Okay, yeah, buy a 770. The 780 and god knows the 7990 are ridiculous overkill for a single 1080p, 60Hz screen.

If you wanted to game in surround on three monitors, then I would recommend the 7990. If you were going to go for a 120Hz, 1080p monitor to game on, I'd say you should get the 780.
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August 14, 2013 11:25:23 AM

DarkSable said:
TrollCraftTales said:
I am not sure exactly what monitor I will be buying, I was looking at the Viewsonic VX2450WM-LED 24-Inch (23.6-Inch Vis) Widescreen LED Monitor with Full HD 1080p and Speakers, but I haven't made a decision yet...


Okay, yeah, buy a 770. The 780 and god knows the 7990 are ridiculous overkill for a single 1080p, 60Hz screen.

If you wanted to game in surround on three monitors, then I would recommend the 7990. If you were going to go for a 120Hz, 1080p monitor to game on, I'd say you should get the 780.


Except driver frame pacing does not work on multiple monitors. Running a 7990 in Eyefinity would be no better than running a single 7970.... another reason to avoid the 7990 and any Crossfire setup for that matter.
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August 14, 2013 11:30:53 AM

17seconds said:
DarkSable said:
TrollCraftTales said:
I am not sure exactly what monitor I will be buying, I was looking at the Viewsonic VX2450WM-LED 24-Inch (23.6-Inch Vis) Widescreen LED Monitor with Full HD 1080p and Speakers, but I haven't made a decision yet...


Okay, yeah, buy a 770. The 780 and god knows the 7990 are ridiculous overkill for a single 1080p, 60Hz screen.

If you wanted to game in surround on three monitors, then I would recommend the 7990. If you were going to go for a 120Hz, 1080p monitor to game on, I'd say you should get the 780.


Except driver frame pacing does not work on multiple monitors. Running a 7990 in Eyefinity would be no better than running a single 7970.... another reason to avoid the 7990 and any Crossfire setup for that matter.


+1 Crossfire is still broken in eyefinity
And Dual GPU cards are hot and noisy too.
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August 14, 2013 11:33:37 AM

Ahh, good catch 17seconds - I forgot that.

And yes, dual GPU cards are things I usually avoid like the plague, but the OP is pretty determined to spend the money. :p 
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August 14, 2013 11:35:42 AM

DarkSable said:
Ahh, good catch 17seconds - I forgot that.

And yes, dual GPU cards are things I usually avoid like the plague, but the OP is pretty determined to spend the money. :p 


Well I do have a $7000 budget, and I want the best possible rig I can get, but I don't just want to spend money stupidly....


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August 14, 2013 11:44:36 AM

byogamingpc said:
Obviously a troll would have a $7k budget so you should probably go 4way SLI GTX Titans http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BL8BX9C/ref=as_li_q...


I am not a troll because I have money and I want to spend it on an amazing rig... Also like I said I don't want to just spend stupid money, I just have a high budget, That card wouldn't make a difference for the monitors and I am guessing it would blow up my rig unless it is insanely cooled... I can't fit more than one monitor on my desk so I am limited to that...

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August 14, 2013 11:47:47 AM

Just get a really good GTX 780 and you'll be happy for a long time to come.

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August 14, 2013 11:49:15 AM

17seconds said:
Just get a really good GTX 780 and you'll be happy for a long time to come.


Ok thank you.. I think that is the way I am going to go...
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August 14, 2013 1:01:27 PM

Also, since you can only go with a single monitor, look at either buying a 1440p monitor or a 120Hz, 1080p one. It's just silly to have a huge budget like that and then get a $200 completely vanilla monitor; what's the point?
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